This is usually the point in Civilization games when I quit and start over; often because oil wasn't available in my territory... how ironic.
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Originally posted by Richard CreagerI've alluded to it in my previous post.
[Edit: I mean two posts previous.]
Education would work if kids these days were not spoiled and actually gave a damn. Far too many are too fucking lazy and selfish to actually try and learn.My father in law was telling me over Thanksgiving about this amazing bartender at some bar he frequented who could shake a martini and fill it to the rim with no leftovers and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. I then proceeded to his home bar and made four martinis in one shaker with unfamiliar glassware and a non standard shaker and did the same thing. From that moment forward I knew he had no compunction about my cock ever being in his daughter's mouth.
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Originally posted by Liquid Bluegenocide?Last edited by Richard Creager; 02-27-2007, 12:52 AM.sage
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Originally posted by Eric is GodThis is usually the point in Civilization games when I quit and start over; often because oil wasn't available in my territory... how ironic.
As far as increasing the funds in education, all we'd be doing is giving the administrators a pay increase while the teachers still got squat.
Schools in my area are getting more funds than when I was going to school. Yet they've managed to eliminate many of the other programs like art & sports, 'cept football (not soccer).
I believe the problem with America's schools is that too many instructors would rather teach their biased agendas rather than being objective in the course study. It's dumbing down our youth and filling their heads with anti-american ideals like marxism and wealth redistribution.
Americans have become so tolerant that we've become tolerant to intolerance and given the intolerant power to make the decisions. :fear:Last edited by HeavenSent; 06-24-2006, 03:59 AM.
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Originally posted by Liquid Bluegenocide?
Education would work if kids these days were not spoiled and actually gave a damn. Far too many are too fucking lazy and selfish to actually try and learn.
I'm sick of it. Fucking disgusted by it. I mean is it truly too much to ask the people of this country to get motivated and elect some officials that have good in their mind? Officials who's only agenda is to make the world better?
Yes, I suppose it is.Originally posted by ToneWomen who smoke cigarettes are sexy, not repulsive. It depends on the number smoked. less is better
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Since most people don't read long posts anyway, I'll first give you the cliff notes version:
You have your two extremes in the country---you have your Pat Robertsons, and then you have your Cindy Sheehans. And you rarely hear a moderate opinion. Why? Because all the moderates have too much shit to do, and why would the media want to cover it anyway?
And here's the long version:
I couldn't agree more with this thread. I am just as sick of the polarization of our society as you guys are. But unfortunately, I really don't think it's ever going to get any better. As long as the media, lobbyists, big business and politicians can get away with finger fucking and daisy chaining each other, the average citizen and taxpayer will forever be the fluffer, jizz-towel fetcher, and cum-stain cleaner of the orgy.
Yes, that was a flippant, and disgusting way to describe the problem. Let me rephrase---the average person has a job, a family and a lot of debt. In whatever spare time they have from their immediate responsibilities (changing their baby's diaper, fighting with their spouse over money, and working their asses off to pay their bills), they are going to get drunk, buy things, or watch TV---because this helps reduce their stress levels. And when doing these activities, do you really think they are going to receive legitimate, intellectually stimulating input? Of course not, because it's not in the best interests of TV networks or business owners to get people to think. Because when their customers think, business suffers. They are best served by appealing to our base instincts---sex, pleasure, security, ego...etc.
As long as the citizenry allows corporate lobbyists to write legislation via their political proxies, there will continue to be an invisible erosion of the checks and balances that keep the best interests of the people at the forefront.
And as long as the citizenry allows the media to feed us breezy, superficial entertainment with no intellectual value---while at the same time bombarding us with a slew of mind-numbing advertisements, you will continue to have generation, after generation of kids who don't vote for anything except American Idol.
And that's why polarization is the desired result of those at the top of the food chain. If they can divide us, then they will continue to politically and economically conquer us---by keeping us too busy fighting each other to notice what they are actually doing. It's just one strategy to preserve our grotesque system.
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Originally posted by SqueezerLets start the revolution.
I'm sick of it. Fucking disgusted by it. I mean is it truly too much to ask the people of this country to get motivated and elect some officials that have good in their mind? Officials who's only agenda is to make the world better?
Yes, I suppose it is.
So Richard, could we just describe your plan as Armageddon?My father in law was telling me over Thanksgiving about this amazing bartender at some bar he frequented who could shake a martini and fill it to the rim with no leftovers and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. I then proceeded to his home bar and made four martinis in one shaker with unfamiliar glassware and a non standard shaker and did the same thing. From that moment forward I knew he had no compunction about my cock ever being in his daughter's mouth.
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Originally posted by SpanishHunkaLuvYes, that was a flippant, and disgusting way to describe the problem. Let me rephrase---the average person has a job, a family and a lot of debt. In whatever spare time they have from their immediate responsibilities (changing their baby's diaper, fighting with their spouse over money, and working their asses off to pay their bills), they are going to get drunk, buy things, or watch TV---because this helps reduce their stress levels. And when doing these activities, do you really think they are going to receive legitimate, intellectually stimulating input? Of course not, because it's not in the best interests of TV networks or business owners to get people to think. Because when their customers think, business suffers. They are best served by appealing to our base instincts---sex, pleasure, security, ego...etc.
Needed to quote that part of his post so everyone can read it- that's exactly what I'm getting at in the other topic when I talk about sex, sports and videogames.My father in law was telling me over Thanksgiving about this amazing bartender at some bar he frequented who could shake a martini and fill it to the rim with no leftovers and he thought it was the coolest thing he'd ever seen. I then proceeded to his home bar and made four martinis in one shaker with unfamiliar glassware and a non standard shaker and did the same thing. From that moment forward I knew he had no compunction about my cock ever being in his daughter's mouth.
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Originally posted by HeavenSentROFL LMAO! :whistling
As far as increasing the funds in education, all we'd be doing is giving the administrators a pay increase while the teachers still got squat.
Schools in my area are getting more funds than when I was going to school. Yet they've managed to eliminate many of the other programs like art & sports, 'cept football (not soccer).
I believe the problem with America's schools is that too many instructors would rather teach their biased agendas rather than being objective in the course study. It's dumbing down our youth and filling their heads with anti-american ideals like marxism and wealth redistribution.
Americans have become so tolerant that we've become tolerant to intolerance and given the intolerant power to make the decisions. :fear:
Things that are killing our education system are teachers not willing to put the effort into their job and the ones who see this as just another occupation. We need real tools for learning. What's the point in using text books from 30 or 40 years ago? what's the point in buying old junker P2 systems and p300, overloading them with 300$ pieces of software no one can or will use? Why do these teachers need expensive laptops they don't use in the class room, have nice leather chairs in their staff rooms and new 3,000$ desktops to input grades on in their room alone while our schools are falling apart?
College and universities are far better but that is a completely different issue. We still have problems with the teachers, shitty unions causing problems but people are spending thousands of dollars every year for this. My tuition alone is 4,500 dollars a year not including travel and expenses. Ontario is the worst of all the provinces for higher education funding. The recent teacher strike nearly cost me and a lot of kids an entire year. What did we get? Nothing, no extra time in class, no more money from either the feds or the province and a hike in public transit fairs. The teachers basicly got what was offered, after weeks off the job.Last edited by Kolar; 06-24-2006, 02:51 PM.
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Originally posted by HeavenSentI believe the problem with America's schools is that too many instructors would rather teach their biased agendas rather than being objective in the course study. It's dumbing down our youth and filling their heads with anti-american ideals like marxism and wealth redistribution.
I don't think they're pushing "anti-american ideals" like Marxism or wealth redistribution, rather, they're just showing how these systems have worked in the past. It's been said rather well before in the past, and I can hardly rephrase it in a more direct manner, but I'll paraphrase:
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Who said things like Marxism and wealth redistribution (your two examples--I'm sure you have beef with a lot of different styles) definitely don't work? Who said they weren't implemented in a wrong way before? Who said they were totally false and we had nothing more to learn from it other than the fact that: it was tried once, it didn't work, the end? That just seems silly to me.
Everyone needs to know about these things in order to make things better for the future. For all of us. If something doesn't work, you need to know why it doesn't work and things that have already been tried to fix it.
Now I don't know... maybe you had some 11th grade pre-calc teacher that was a hardass and made you do proofs in the shape of Che Guevara's head every third Thursday. But if these things were being taught in history, your teacher was probably just letting you know how things have happened, and trying to make YOU think about what went wrong. It's not propoganda, it's not induction, it's teaching.Music and medicine, I'm living in a place where they overlap.
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