Has Noah's Ark Been Found?

[Scurvy]

panda lmao you couldnt be more wrong. there were MORE animals back before the flud than there are now. obviously some didnt make it

i.e. unicorns, harpys, atlantis, etc.

do your homework.

[DoTheFandango]

You don't see me trying to disprove your faith, there's no need to try and disprove mine.

It's not that he's presenting you reason to quit believing, he's providing a counter-point to the arguement. Take it like a man.

[Vehicle]

Seriously though, this isn't even a discussion. The bottom line is that no fucking penguin could last for 40 days on a fucking boat during a rainstorm, providing Noah could get a hold of them. On top of that, animals eat other animals for those of you who didn't know. And I somehow doubt that Noah was stopping any lions from killing the gazelles 3 rooms down. And even more revealing is that there are more or less millions of species of animals, that's not gonna fit guys. I really don't see how anyone could actually believe that shit.

[gran guerrero]

ARE YOU A PENGUIN VEH? I THINK NOT!
DONT JUDGE US PENGUIN'S DURABILITY OK!

[Sleepy Weasel]

Seriously though, this isn't even a discussion. The bottom line is that no fucking penguin could last for 40 days on a fucking boat during a rainstorm, providing Noah could get a hold of them. On top of that, animals eat other animals for those of you who didn't know. And I somehow doubt that Noah was stopping any lions from killing the gazelles 3 rooms down. And even more revealing is that there are more or less millions of species of animals, that's not gonna fit guys. I really don't see how anyone could actually believe that shit.

Granted, but it is possible that Noah did build this massive ark and threw all the animals he could round up on it believing it to be God's mission for him. And if that did happen it would be cool to find the ark.

It obviously wouldn't prove the existance of god in any way whatsoever, but it would still be an amazingly cool historical find, if it means at least some of the Noah's ark story is true.

[Sleuth]

True, but there probably weren't as many animals back then as there are now.

LOL


btw mankind kills of tons of species daily.

[Dameon Angell]

Well, to think of this in a logical standpoint, I think we have to goto the source of this "Fact or Fiction?" case.

Noah's Ark was told through Chapters 6 to 9 of the "Holy Bible" in the book of Genesis. And the book of Genesis, allegedly was authored by, God himself. So says the story: God spoke the story of Genesis to Moses on top of Mount Sinai.

Now, to get the Book of Genesis into the printed, produced version we have today the story must be passed down. So now what we have is an ancient game of "Telephone". And the length of this game all depends on who was the last guy to write down the 'final draft' of the Book of Genesis.

Case 1: Author: Moses himself
Moses climbs up to Mount Sinai to have a pow-wow with the big man himself. He is then told this story about the Genesis of the world. Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Noah and the Ark, I believe (Panda can help me out with this one) the story of Abraham is included in Genesis as well.

Moses takes in the information he was just given and moves on. From there, with every passing second the crucial details could be fading from his memory which could slowly be deteriorating to the moment he actually records it.

Now, by this time, Moses puts down a story that isn't exactly what he heard from God, but a story that he can remember, however much time after he heard it. And after that, revisions to the story are later added by other people to twist it into what we have today.

Case 2: Author: Unknown
Moses climbs up, hears the story, comes back down and tells one of his friends the story...

Moses> Hey, this guy he lived down in Israel, bunch of bad stuff was going on so God made it rain so hard the place got flooded out. But, he told this guy to make a boat to save himself and his family. He put his cattle on the ship, too. After that he had enough to go back to his way of life and our people flourished once again.

Man 1> Hey, this guy lived down in Israel, a bunch of bad stuff was going down so God created a flash flood and destroied everything. But, God saved this guy named Noah and his family, and a bunch of animals on the ship.

Man 2> Hey, this guy was flooded out of his homeland by God, cause people were evil. But God saved this guy, Noah, and his family, and had him build a boat and he put all the animals on the boat to save them and he fit his family on it too. Purple monkey dishwasher.

As you can see, the story can be twisted and changed, not on purpose, to the story we hear today. Maybe it was a true story, handed down by some guy, God, or whoever you want to believe came up with it first. And now, years later, the story gets messed up like a game of Telephone.

Note: excuse the spelling and whatnot, its 2:30 am

[Ikrit]

"There's this idea, if we can prove that the Ark existed then we can prove that the story existed, and more importantly, we can prove that God existed," said Bruce Feiler, author of "Where God Was Born."

This guy fails at life, I believe it'd be "we can prove that God exists". Feiler needs to go back to an English class to learn verb tenses or a theology class to learn about how God doesn't die.

[Golden Sun 1]

Noahs ark cud of existed, but it doesnt mean god existed, it cud have been a story of a man tht got out of control, cus we all now robin hood is real aswell

[PolluX]

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[NaiLed]

maybe noah's ark was symbolic

dum dum dumm

[Suh]

This is the kind of trivial "rage against the machine" shit that I find more annoying on the internet than religious zealots.

You don't believe in the bible, high five- way to go out of your way to step on someone's beliefs. Now since you're done here, do you want to go make fun of those turban guys and their silly praying on carpets? Or maybe you should go wake up jewish people, with their long curly beards and big noses.

its on my "to do" list,

i dont dismiss the idea of religion or its importance many cultures, generally the morals it produces can help alot of people, and the idea of a god can help alot of people get through the day. however i dont enjoy seeing people trying to prove these happy little elf stories happened or worse trying to disprove sound concepts such as gravity and evolution.

i didnt say that "turban guys" (nice one you prejudice fuck) or "jews" have no right to pray to their respected gods, nor the methods they use to pray are wrong. dont generalise or jump the gun.

it wasnt a "WAKE UP" your ideals are wrong

it was a "WAKE UP" perhaps the bible was just helpful moral stories other than hard fact which must have happened because the bible said it did.


now will you stop jumping on me all the time, you will wreck my preconceived ideals i have about you from your cute little avatar.

[Jeenyuss]

i didnt say that "turban guys" (nice one you prejudice fuck) or "jews" have no right to pray to their respected gods

suh he was using sarcasm and hyperbole as a tool to prove his point.

[Liquid Blue]

i dont dismiss the idea of religion or its importance many cultures, generally the morals it produces can help alot of people, and the idea of a god can help alot of people get through the day. however i dont enjoy seeing people trying to prove these happy little elf stories happened or worse trying to disprove sound concepts such as gravity and evolution.

Did anyone in the thread prior to your post try to disprove gravity or evolution? Regardless of whether or not you believe in this tale or any others, it's just as offensive and condescending to call it a "happy little elf story" as it would be for you to make fun of jewish people for having big noses or muslims because of how they pray.

Just like you do not enjoy seeing people going out of their way to shove God and Jesus in your face and tell you you're going to hell, other people don't like to see someone outright ridicule their religion and call their holy text a "fairy tale".

i didnt say that "turban guys" (nice one you prejudice fuck) or "jews" have no right to pray to their respected gods, nor the methods they use to pray are wrong. dont generalise or jump the gun.

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it was a "WAKE UP" perhaps the bible was just helpful moral stories other than hard fact which must have happened because the bible said it did.

No, it was-

"noahs ark = fairy tale

bible = fairy tale


lets all wake up shall we"

That's quite a less sugar-coated response than the one you're describing.

now will you stop jumping on me all the time, you will wreck my preconceived ideals i have about you from your cute little avatar.

Avoiding such comments as the one above negate any sort of jumping I might be doing, unless you turn on some Kriss Kross.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Pants to the back is my everyday uniform.