What an ignorant fuck

[gran guerrero]

i know i said i wouldnt argue, but i just have to get something off my chest at what izor said about how muslims are beasts for treating women like shit.

yes EVERY single male in the middle east is treating women like shit. dumbass. my god unbelievable at this comment. Do you know that America hasn't given women respect till like early 20th century. Rape, and wife beating happens all the time here in America, and every other country. are you saying that because they dont have a law that gives womens rights in the middle east beastly, while here in our own country we didnt give it to them for like centuries, and still treat them badly just in a way that no one sees it.

I just wish. I really do, that people like you could stop just guessing at what shit is like over there, and go find out for yourself without the help of our biased news stations.

[smokes]

i know i said i wouldnt argue, but i just have to get something off my chest at what izor said about how muslims are beasts for treating women like shit.

yes EVERY single male in the middle east is treating women like shit. dumbass. my god unbelievable at this comment. Do you know that America hasn't given women respect till like early 20th century. Rape, and wife beating happens all the time here in America, and every other country. are you saying that because they dont have a law that gives womens rights in the middle east beastly, while here in our own country we didnt give it to them for like centuries, and still treat them badly just in a way that no one sees it.

I just wish. I really do, that people like you could stop just guessing at what shit is like over there, and go find out for yourself without the help of our biased news stations.

You do realize that women in the united states are allowed to show their face in public right? and dont cry about biased news stations because yea al-jazeera tv isn't biased at all.

[Izor]

my point is that its not accepted by our society to rape women or force them to wear veils in public. I wish you would stop saying im applying this to every single person instead of the point I am actually making, which is that its the accepted standard of living there because the majority do it

Now it seems to me gran as though you are an arab who was brought up in the US. If I am wrong about this do not read on. But if that is true then you are an example that arabs arent necessarily bad and cruel people at heart, but the culture they are brought up in over there molds them into it. My point this entire thread is that something needs to be done to solve that and forcefully advance them closer to our level.

And as a closing statement on this, we probably havent treated our women the best over the years, but I dont ever remember where it was socially ENCOURAGED to kill your woman if they 'disrespect' you. Hell it wasnt even close to being accepted.

[gran guerrero]

im an american born in an iranian family.

We arent the fucking animals you fuckers call us, my family there in Iran isnt. Nor was our neighbors or the family down the street. Stop calling a whole race an animal and fucking evil bitches when its only certain groups of people, like theres only certain groups of people who do the same thing here like ***. I would accept if you called the government stupid and people who believe every nonsense bullshit that comes from their nonreligious political but religious propaganda covered words are animals. But I won't stand for the likes of you and smokes whose calling my family and their friends animals or any other innocent soul that has to suffer from this bigotry and idiotic statements.

EDIT: when was k k k censored?

[Hakaku]

Therefore every member of that society is to blame. Just like every member of American society is to blame for America being overweight. Even if we know all the fast food here is wrong to live off of, not enough people are doing anything about it to stop the problem. You can make plenty of jokes about this correct? Dont see why you get so offended when I refer to arabs as primitive then.

No. Not every member of society is to blame. Not everyone in the US approves of all the fast foods and the over-sized given proportions of food at restaurants. Should people that are trying to change this be blamed?
Anyway, how is saying jokes about the overweight society the same as calling arabs primitive?
-The 'fatty' jokes are meant as... well jokes, some people like Ratty take it too far though.
-Arabs are people from Saudi Arabia. Calling them primitive is much more harsh than calling them fat. If anything, it's discrimination simply because their 'world' still has ties with traditional values and because technology isn't much of an importance to them. And that doesn't make them in any way primitive.

And plus, I've never said any fat american jokes (you do know America is a continent right?), I only disagree with their political choices. And I would never call anyone primitive.

[DoTheFandango]

GEAHRFH ME ANGRY AMERICAN. ME HATE MUSLIMS.

[Bob (SRB)]

You're ashamed to have someone who backs and stands behind the United States as your fellow countrymen? Uhhh yeah thats makes sense especially considering the state you hail from. Either theres something illegal going around the whiskey in Kentucky or seeing all those Confederate flags flying around have skewed your judgement. I'm more ashamed of people like you who stand by and criticize me for being a patriot while these uneducated animals cut people's heads off on camera and just kill innocent people in cold blood. The thing I realized when all these European countries didn't back us going into the Iraq war was that they are irrelavant now and they should be dead to us Americans now. Look at the amount of American blood shed on the beaches of Normandy to liberate the French people, the fuckin French should be indebted to us for the rest of their wretched lives and not opposing us on ANYTHING. So who gives a flying fuck about the goodwill the rest of the world has for us cause they will just stab us in the fuckin back like a FRENCHMAN.

Mind giving me your address so I can fly a plane right into your fucking face?

[Izor]

oh jesus fuck, do i have to explain this in even simpler terms? I never said that there isnt a minority of them that want to change the way things are over there. I never said there arent people there with a decent moral code. I said that their society, overall, has the problem I was talking about. gran i dont care about your family in iran whether theyre decent or not, why? Because if there were more decent people like them than the ones that currently infest the area then guess what..things would be run differently.

you can try and bring up the k k k, but again in modern day america they have very little power. Back 100 years ago or so yes they were a very serious threat to everyone (who wasnt white) because they had a strong influence over the government and had a lot of support from the people, primarily down south. Now that our society as a whole has gotten over that point and really doesnt think that way anymore, how much of a threat are they? Actually this is a much better parallel than talking about americas obesity problem, thanks. Hopefully you can understand this one. But anyway back to the point, whereas the k k k was a domestic threat to the US, we were forced to deal with it ourselves. Al-Qaeda normally wouldnt bother me at all if they were just lynching some other camel riders in the middle of the desert, but they just so happen to be attacking our country. I dont want to wait through 15 years of this bullshit or however long before they overcome their prejudice as a society and start to root out the extremists. What I dont understand is how anyone else can not think that we arent in immediate danger from them? Perhaps NYC and washington arent close enough to you? Or you have no relatives/friends there?

[gran guerrero]

fuck me for trying to argue again. honestly. its like talking to a brick wall here.

[Chao.]

oh jesus fuck, do i have to explain this in even simpler terms? I never said that there isnt a minority of them that want to change the way things are over there. I never said there arent people there with a decent moral code. I said that their society, overall, has the problem I was talking about. gran i dont care about your family in iran whether theyre decent or not, why? Because if there were more decent people like them than the ones that currently infest the area then guess what..things would be run differently.

you can try and bring up the k k k, but again in modern day america they have very little power. Back 100 years ago or so yes they were a very serious threat to everyone (who wasnt white) because they had a strong influence over the government and had a lot of support from the people, primarily down south. Now that our society as a whole has gotten over that point and really doesnt think that way anymore, how much of a threat are they? Actually this is a much better parallel than talking about americas obesity problem, thanks. Hopefully you can understand this one. But anyway back to the point, whereas the k k k was a domestic threat to the US, we were forced to deal with it ourselves. Al-Qaeda normally wouldnt bother me at all if they were just lynching some other camel riders in the middle of the desert, but they just so happen to be attacking our country. I dont want to wait through 15 years of this bullshit or however long before they overcome their prejudice as a society and start to root out the extremists. What I dont understand is how anyone else can not think that we arent in immediate danger from them? Perhaps NYC and washington arent close enough to you? Or you have no relatives/friends there?

Have you realized that the governments in those countries are weak? Half of the leaders in the past decades propped up by super-powers during the cold war? That maybe the government is too weak to fight these extremists with any worthwhile success? Some of it reminds me of references to Africa and the "Sore of colonialism". They can't fight people who very well might have more resources than their government.They don't have the power that our government does. There's not a simple way to remove radicals. Is any of this getting through? Anything at all?

[smokes]

Mind giving me your address so I can fly a plane right into your fucking face?

Its ok frenchman you'll get over my comments, no need to be suicidal now.

[genocidal]

It's a good thing all people like smokes and Torquil will do with their lives is flip burgers.

[smokes]

It's a good thing all people like smokes and Torquil will do with their lives is flip burgers.

Good one and you'll be president of the united states i'm sure, just goes to show what idiots have to say when they have no response gg try again.

[Chao.]

Good one and you'll be president of the united states i'm sure, just goes to show what idiots have to say when they have no response gg try again.

Notice that he didn't deny he would be flipping burgers the rest of his life.

[smokes]

Notice that he didn't deny he would be flipping burgers the rest of his life.

Well since im a college graduate that would be doubtful but anyways you have more e-credits than me i'll take paper and plastic my kind friend.

EDIT: I'm too old to get into name calling, so why would i respond to childish remarks. Come on now I couldn't careless what a faceless screename says because he has nothing else to say like I already made clear.