ATTN: foreigners RE: USA

[Noah]

Face, I've always liked you, and I do now even more. Your point is a good one, and a well taken one. What boggles my mind is, how can your polictical system be so fucked up? From what you are telling us, it seems like you have don't have much political influence at all. And that is comming from the very same country that flags democracy and freedom for the entire world? There are some major contradictions here, and that's really what the fuzz is for my sake. The constant flagging out of American values, the constant propaganda that you are the greatest, superbest contry in the world. Everyone has their drawbacks, yes, but not everybody is fronting themselves 24/7 over the entire fucking world. This has lead me to choke on it, I'm so filled up with that, that I resent it even more.

There's another reason for my dislike to (some of) your contrymen tho; Look at how they (sometimes) behave on these forums, how the general attitude is.

The () signs is for politcial correct bullshit, but I dont feel like making another post explaining this.

[Ignominy]

oh, and ignominy, i used to think that way too, but now i think that there's no way that any candidate will align with your political opinions anywhere near perfectly. if making it possible for more than 2 parties to exist is important to you, figure out what might do that, and vote for whoever you think is most likely to make any progress towards it.

I knew I shouldn't have put that in there, because people would miss my point. It's not important, I don't care and I won't make a change, ever. I was speaking theoretically.

"Civil responsibility" is a fun guilt-trip phrase somebody decided sounded good and threw out to try and get smart people to vote even though they know it's stupid. But I think people voting is great, so yeah, go vote.

I will be elsewhere not futiley wasting my time.

[Facetious]

I mean, just because I have very little political influence doesn't mean that all people do. My vote doesn't count in national elections because I live in a state that votes Republican every year, but occasionally Virginia will elect Democrats on a local level, so there's that. People that live in other states have influence if their state could swing one way or another (that is assuming you believe that the elections aren't rigged, which I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out).

Plus, Noah, look how EVERYONE behaves on these forums. The people on these forums that aren't idiots are mostly jerks and doofuses. That doesn't mean everyone in the world falls into those categories. Well, they kind of do, actually, but that's not my point. The point is, what I see when I read these forums and play Subspace occasionally is that on a global level, everyone (well, everyone in a similar economic group that can afford computers and internet) is pretty similar, although people from other countries tend to be less fat.

edit: Igno, do you think voting is stupid just because of the electoral college, or do you think it's stupid in general?

[Ignominy]

I think that 1/300,000,000 is a small number.

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[Noah]

I'm not talking about being a prick Face, it's the Americanization. I'll not bother to search this, but I'll throw it out: Americans on these very forums has fronted their country more than any other people. Like the 9/11 thread where something that happened in America is to be forced on every subspace player. (Yes, what happened sucked, but what happened would never have been blowed this far out if it had happened in any other country (happened count: 4 including this)). And this, that so many Americans thinks and behaves that everyone give the fuck about anything American event, product, movie, whatever. That is the thing that is annoying me the most.

Then we have the entire global police thingy and war on terrorism. Which I don't even care to get bothered about, because I can just sit around and wank, and that shit will never touch me. And I can't do anything about it either, except devoting my life to changing it, which I don't feel like.

I'm not going to bother to edit my entire post for this, so I'll just add it here:
I don't hate America, or Americans. What I dislike (as previously said) is the constant propaganda. I enjoy alot of American things, like Marlboro, Bud, and some good bands, but the second you throw an American flag on those products and/or add some sort of ultra pro-America slogans/pictures/etc I'll stop using it in a heartbeat and start hating it.

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[gran guerrero]

fuck you all for not acknowledging my aggressive comments filled with unequivocal hatred!

[genocidal]

LOL Canada has 70% of US oil??? Yea fucking right. Maybe you're thinking about lumber.

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[Hero*]

suuuccks to be american, don't it!

[Hakaku]

Everyone has their own reasons for liking or hating things.

For me, it's more than a matter of just removing George Bush from leadership, but a lot of different factors would have to change. Such as the US' general view on global warming, war, Canada's Internal Waters (aka NorthWest Passage to you), and its view towards Canada. I'm a Canadian, so obviously those would be my dislikes of the US, as many of its citizens still ignore the previous issues.

[Squeezer]

suuuccks to be american, don't it!

yah, it really sucks having paved roads, electricity and indoor plumbing all across our nation.

Oh and having televison, an excess of food and money is really not that delectable.