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that's bs.. seriously. There were like what.. 5/6 cops there? Since when are they to weak to carry someone out. There was no reason to tazer him imo. If I say it correctly, he even got tazered after he was already handcuffed?
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That might be true, but I don't think the cops can set the penalty to resisting arrest, I think a judge should. At least in western societies that's mostly the case.Originally posted by Dameon Angell View Post
And what do you mean by "kids like him", you actually know the guy?You ate some priest porridge
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Agreed but the use of the taser was not warranted in this situation. He was not violent, he refused to stand up or give id. It's debatable whether he could be arrested for either. He was cuffed and was under control, using the weapon on him only caused a bigger problem. the cops were risking a riot and should never have used any type of force against a person to get compliance.Originally posted by Dameon Angell View PostComment
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before all the lapd scandals, they woulda just beat the shit outta him and dragged him off. now that woulda been video-worthyIll-timed force will be ineffective; act with precision; timing is everything. Knowing where and when to strike is more important than strength; misapplied ability is disability. Unreasonable or undue force will defeat itself
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yeah the fucker being in a library, who the fuck does he think he is, ya know what, they should have shot him aswell. i mean we all know its what he had coming. how dare he disagree with the police doesnt he know they protect us from the terrorists. geez they should have taken him outside and beaten him as you know thats what having no I.D warrants now-a-days.Originally posted by Dameon Angell View Post
ive been stopped by police, disagreeed with them, refused to allow them to search me. ya know what they should have tazered me, really sorted me out ya know? i totally had it coming really....Reinstate Sarien
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Suzie you sound like that guy in the vid. Maybe you should of had it coming :fear: The cops were called there by the campus employees. They were there to do their job and asked the guy many times to do something. He chose not to and put the cops in a scenario where they had to remove him. New laws have been passed on tazers and it is becoming the most popular method, due to the fact that too many cops, and civilians both have been injured using brute force. Smart asses are always looking for ways to bend laws to cause controversy, screw them they deserve what they get.IndulgenceComment
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He was shouting for ppl to join him in resisting ... you need to think of the safety of the police officers too you know ...
And if he was forced to the ground and handcuffed etc ... it would have looked just as bad as if he was tasered. At least with tasering, the cops don't have to touch him.
Notice while he was tasered he was still able to shout stuff ... not like he's dead/unconscious. Resisting arrest can get you tasered and it can get you arrested.Comment
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It's always ok if the person "had it coming". He probably was a shit disturber looking for a cause but he's a human being and doesn't deserve swift justice or judgment, not from you or I or from the police. The police had the situation under control, shocking a person 6-7 times can either seriously harm them or kill them. I don't think you guys siding with the police understand that this is a real weapon, used inappropriately or excessively can harm or kill a person. There is no excuse for doing it here, maybe in an extreme situation.
There's a word for using pain to make a person compliant, torture. If nothing else you have to agree that this method the University has rubber stamped for its security force is wrong and unethical.Last edited by Kolar; 11-22-2006, 05:38 PM.Comment
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If I saw it correctly, at some point he was already cuffed while he still got tasered.Maybe God was the first suicide bomber and the Big Bang was his moment of Glory.Comment
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It is an approved to be used for situations in which the person needs to be subdued or is resisting arrest. It does have harmful effects IF used unproperly. However, I believe there are certain settings and if my memory serves me correctly, the police did use the lowest settings ....Originally posted by Kolar View Post
It was appropriate action ... maybe not in European countries, but certainly in the USA. He can choose to sue etc if he wishes. That's called checks and balances (sorta).Comment
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Resisting while still in handcuffs allows the police to use more force or in this case use more tasering.Originally posted by Galleleo View Post
To the ppl who say they should've dragged him down and handcuffed him and dragged him out instead of tasering him ... well both look equally brutal in my opinion. If the guy is resisting, it's certainly safer for the police to taser him instead of putting THEMSELVES in harms way.Comment
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Using it more then once to get him under control was excessive, using it to force him to stand up or leave was excessive. These weapons are not meant to be used in this fashion. They're meant to get the person under control and that's it. I have no problem with it being used responsibly to remove people but once they're handcuffed and on the ground you dragged them away, not scream at them to stand then shock them continuously until they physically can't stand or move at all. I'm sure policy will change as a result of this but the police should know the difference between right and wrong, it isn't a cultural difference or anything.Originally posted by SufficientComment
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my older brother is a cop. you arent suppose to taser someone unless they pose some sort of threat/try to run from cops etc... from the video, it appears the student may have been uncooperative, but there were numerous cops that could have dragged him out and they had things well under control without the taser.
these rent a cops should be brought up on charges. IMO, they have no authority to taser someone at will especially if there is no threat and the student was not violent thats for sure.Comment
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In my mind it went down something like this. [I don't know the facts, I got it from Digg.com the day it happened, and after reading all those insane comments on youtube I lost interest.]
<arab student working on his paper at 2am that's due the next morning, like all students been working on it for 10 hours straight, pretty stressed and tired>
lib employee> sir, you are arab, can I see your ID please?
student> ow shit, I forgot my ID
employee> then I will have to ask you to leave
student> ow come on!!! what the fuck!! I don't have time for this!!
employee> no reason to raise your voice, please leave
student> fuck no, I am a student here, you don't check anyone else, let me work on my paper!!
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employee> ok, I called the police, now please leave
student> what the fuck this is crazy you racist!! but okay I will leave jesus fuck.
cop> hey there you terrorist, watch your dirty mouth!
student> wtf, don't touch me!
cop> TZZZZZZ HIZZZZZ
student> ARRRGH I AM AMERICAN I GOT RIGHTS!
cop> hell you got no rights, TZZZZZZ TZZZZZ
student> fuck you this is insane
cop> GET UP TZZZZZZZ
other students> this is crazy, what's your batch number??
cop> move along if you don't want the same treatment!You ate some priest porridge
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Did he die? No. Life sucks, wear a fucking helmet.DELETEDComment
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