Police Brutality at UCLA

[K2Grey]

Zerzera: I somewhat emphasize with you on the topic of YouTube comments. For some reason the Internet brings out a certain degree of macho posturing when you would think that people don't really need to prove anything over the Internet.

Anyway, let's remember here that to take sides against the police is not the same as taking sides for the student. The student may or may not be a retard, if he is, that does not mean that the amount of force being used on him was appropriate.

[Melon]

I believe the officer was a black/indian mix. So, i'm not to sure if racism would come into that. The kid just said "you're doing this because im an arab." Everyone uses the race card if they have it to play.

[Sufficient]

it's not brutality when the cop threatens to stun other students?

Who fails to comply? If you CONTINUE to resist while in cuffs ... you should be allowed as an officer to subdue the person and to basically shut him up. It's a library and being quiet is something that is enforced ... whether or not a taser was required to force him to be quiet is one issue, but the officer did have a right to shut him up in a PUBLIC library and to get him out of there are fa\st as possible.

It's literally 30 ppl vs 2 cops ... think of yourself in the cops shoes as well. You have literally all eyes on you having to take a situation into control without the maniac shouting for "his Patriot Act". The kids in the library want peace in quiet to study, having this guy be shut up and quickly escorted out is fair and proper in my mind.

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To me it all boils down to this question: Was using a taser necessary? Could the officers have just as effectively escorted the guy out in a quiet and quick manner using other methods?

In my mind being tasered 5 times may be excessive, by not necessarily out of the realms of appropriate action.

[Cops]

the kids in the library wanted the officers to stop tazering him, they were on the verge of rioting these officers, I don't really think they were after peace and quiet.

[Subjugation]

Anyway, let's remember here that to take sides against the police is not the same as taking sides for the student. The student may or may not be a retard, if he is, that does not mean that the amount of force being used on him was appropriate.

100% wrong.

Furthermore, if you don't support GWB, you hate the troops.

[Sufficient]

the kids in the library wanted the officers to stop tazering him, they were on the verge of rioting these officers, I don't really think they were after peace and quiet.

The officers were called not by themselves but by the student police (library ppl). The police did not come by themselves, they were called there ... I believe. So, yes if the police answered a call to come there then yes I think ppl wanted some peace and quiet. The guy was disturbing the peace in a public place and the police had the right to get him to be quiet. Obviously he did not comply.

[Cops]

campus police, the police did not need to taser him to make him leave, he was on his way out. The officers could have easily talked to him, asked people in the library if anyone had seen him before and ask a student representative to go to his room and get his student card, instead they pounced on him and in-tern they got passive resistance from this individual. The individuals passive resistant insinuated aggression on the part of the rent-a-cops. I do not agree that this situation was in anyway deserving of aggression especially tasering which in my opinion should only be done when the cop feels threatened for his life. The cops are under investigation and being the retarded fucks they are they went to the media, which will probably look down on them after reviewing all the information. I think this is a cold hard case, I doubt you'll see little surprise.

Do I need to mention the fact that regardless if this individual had a medical condition or not, the officers did not take it into consideration and stop the use of the taser. He could have easily wound up dead.

[Zerzera]

I believe the officer was a black/indian mix. So, i'm not to sure if racism would come into that. The kid just said "you're doing this because im an arab." Everyone uses the race card if they have it to play.

Show me a movie of a white kid being treated like this and I will agree on you.
I bet there is no racism between brown and black people either.

[Sufficient]

Do I need to mention the fact that regardless if this individual had a medical condition or not, the officers did not take it into consideration and stop the use of the taser. He could have easily wound up dead.

I have no numbers but like I said before ... I bet the number of deaths or serious injuries caused by police using tasers is lower than the number of ppl winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning.

[Sufficient]

campus police, the police did not need to taser him to make him leave, he was on his way out. The officers could have easily talked to him, asked people in the library if anyone had seen him before and ask a student representative to go to his room and get his student card, instead they pounced on him and in-tern they got passive resistance from this individual. The individuals passive resistant insinuated aggression on the part of the rent-a-cops. I do not agree that this situation was in anyway deserving of aggression especially tasering which in my opinion should only be done when the cop feels threatened for his life. The cops are under investigation and being the retarded fucks they are they went to the media, which will probably look down on them after reviewing all the information. I think this is a cold hard case, I doubt you'll see little surprise.

I do not believe he was on his way out. He was told multiple times to get up and walk out by his own accord. He did not do that. Instead he decided to wallow on the ground while simultaneously instigating a scene which was again in a library. Libraries are supposed to be quiet places. I go there to study. I do not go there to have a screaming guy who won't get out and won't listen to the police. Again, I believe he just sat there on the ground when he could have left peacefully using his own two legs and quietly. If he wanted to file a report about his treatment then he should have left and filed the report at the police station.

The cops EVENTUALLY did have to drag him out themselves. Dunno, but to me either way, dragging him out or tasering would have caused a scene and looked badly on the police. So they are in a lose lose situation. The kid would have resisted and tried to stay in the library/wallow around if they had NOT tasered him and instead tried to forcibly drag him out. The race card is played out too often and liberally applied, esp in the media.

[Galleleo]

The race card was in reference to the campus security only asking him for his i.d. At least, that's what I understood.