300

[DoTheFandango]

Gran.

It was based on a COMIC BOOK.

Gran.

It was an action/art movie. Watch it for its beauty. Not it's plot and historical accuracy. Remind me to hear your review of the Odyssey where you whine because Odysseus fought a Cyclops.

[gran guerrero]

when i see an action movie i expect more realistic fighting not some bullshit we can kick your ass and not get hurt until you shoot us with arrows or have creatures twice our size to fight us.

I expected more strategy, which was only seen like 2 or 3 times out of the shit load of fight scenes that just showed slow motion charging of a dude slicing of heads and stabbing ppl with a pole like they dont know how to dodge. And I am still wondering how they can fight without eating food or water (WHERE THE FUK DID HE GET THAT APPLE? IM STILL WONDERING!) or not get disease from all the dead bodies or not get tired.

[phata$$]

ROFL. Whoever went into a movie about insane action and violence to look for historical inaccuracies and unrealistic combat needs to take the plug out of their ass. Seriously, I came into this movie looking for a good time and some awesome fight scenes. Since when do action movies ever show historical accuracy? Cliche dialogue? If any of the spartans said anything complex, I would have been pissed off. The spartans were meatheads, let them speak like meatheads. Okay, so I guess I can see the propaganda and shit, but this is based on the comic book. If anything, complain about the comic book and how Frank Miller is a strong pro-war supporter or something.

[+/-]

I obviously didn't see the movie... so they didn't focus at all on the Athenian front, which ultimately won the war and brought Democracy to the world today? Had it not been for the Athenian sea-faring (which took 30,000 Persian lives with a much outnumbered force itself) and had Persia won, we'd still be living in a world of theocracy and monarchy.

My occidental civilisations history classes are a little bit far in my head, but I believe the Athenian democracy wasn't exactly the kind of democracy we know today, as it was really restrictive. I'd agree to say it was some kind of paradigm that gave us the basis of true democracy. Although, I wouldn't go as far as saying that if the Persians had won that war, we wouldn't know what democracy actually is today. Personally, I think democracy would've appeared sooner or later, but I also think it is nearly impossible to emit a solid hypothesis on that matter -_-

I enjoyed 300, and I agree with people who are saying that we shouldn't over analyze its content. I went to see that movie to be entertained, and I've been entertained. The only things that disapointed me a little bit is the fact that almost all the awesome scenes were packed into the different trailers, but we could say that about most or even all the movies...
Also, I hated them teenage dudebros who kept yelling during the presentation.

Edit:
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/in...5efe641afa7cc5

[Squeezer]

It's called artistic lisence.

How do you expect a realistic movie based on a Frank Miller comic?

[Jerome Scuggs]

anyways, vati, you're looking at the movie through some political-colored lenses. 300 is an action movie. it was epic, and you're not supposed to look into it too deeply.

the director didn't fail. he brought the graphic novel to life beautifully. Your post would be relevant if this was the V for Vendetta movie - yeah, that movie had a hidden political agenda and it slaughtered the g.novel. 300 the film followed 300 the novel very well.

anyways, for your kind of people, i am sorry that you will never enjoy art. you're the guy that hates 'A Million Little Pieces' because there's no way James Frey could have done all those drugs - ignoring the message of the book. you'd look at Picasso's 'Guernica' and just lament that he was a shitty painter and everyone was all disproportionate and modern-artsy.

your view of things has to be subjective and transient. if you looked at 300 the same way you looked at the Matrix or an Inconvenient Truth, you'd never be able to enjoy any of the three for what they are.

it's an action movie, bro. take it for what it is.

[PaulOakenfold]

I obviously didn't see the movie... so they didn't focus at all on the Athenian front, which ultimately won the war and brought Democracy to the world today? Had it not been for the Athenian sea-faring (which took 30,000 Persian lives with a much outnumbered force itself) and had Persia won, we'd still be living in a world of theocracy and monarchy. That would have at least added some added plot to this whole thing, and not left, what a lot of you are complaining about, a boring one dimensional plot. I realize the 300 man front was incredibly important, but they started off with something like 4,000 Greek troops and the 300 only came when Leonidas told the remaining Athenians to retreat for an eventual final battle, and when the Persians had found a way to flank the remaining Spartans.

[Cops]

This movie sucked. The fighting was so unrealistic (um hello no one can fight that long without getting tired, or catching a disease from the dead bodies, and where was the fucking food, where the fuck did that dude get that apple?)

Persians aren't black, nor chinese, nor did we have elephants or rhinos. Xerxes wasn't a tall black dude with piercings (Persians don't do piercings, it is considered gay, and only the slaves were pierced so we knew that they were slaves). Xerxes was somewhat shorter than being tall, like 5'10" at most, he rode a horse, and looked like every other middle eastern at the time with a big beard and long flowing black hair.

excuse me nickname, did you say this movie was historically accurate? ogres, chainsaw arm freaks, etc all were real. fucking idiot.

I expected at least more strategies being used (which i saw in the beginning of the fighting) but then got sorely disappointed when it just turned out to being spartans coming out of the tunnel (which was their fucking focus point of seige tactics to hold off the persian army) and fighting like they are the incredible hulk, and no scratch can be done.

I could not but help think of how this is such a clear message of propaganda of US interests on anti-iran sentiments. Americans being the spartan badasses that cant die or get hurt unless they are betrayed or killed "cowardlike" by arrows. and the persians (iranians) being the ugly deformed can't fight army.

This movie blowed, and you all suck for liking it. Other than the artistic visual effects the movie sucked.

You're over analyzing the movie and trying to find messages about current world politics that aren't there. This movie is based on a comic book not complete history.

The Persian's got fucked which is no surprise when Spartan soldiers were far superior at fighting. You're just pissed because you went in expecting something like Gladiator and Troy and ended up with something completely different.

[Cops]

I hated the narrarator. Sucks how he ends up ending the movie by charging into the screen heroicly for his freedom, just like the narrarator did in Braveheart. It's a movie, so i don't care about historical accuracy. I just think 2 hours is too far to go with such a weak plot (300 dudes holding a single point, no new scenes, strategy) and a couple weak sub-plots (commander and his wife spent 20 mins together on screen and then as he's dying he talks about his lost love, unconvincing, and then the father son combo, yes I laughed when his head was chopped off, all his training apparently couldn't help alert him to a horse galloping up from behind). Horrible dialogue; no I didn't go to the movie to see dialogue or plot structure or character hubris, but if you can't do a little bit you have pretty much failed as a director. How many times do i need to hear this guy yell no mercy, no surrender, victory! A little substance to back up these cliches would be nice. As far as propiganda goes Gran, I saw it more in the continous thread of freedom being shoved down my throat, what would a free man do? fight for freedom! freedom isn't free! I can't believe I heard them say this last one, just reinforcing prowar conformist bullshit. Also, I would say there were 20 shots of a hunchback, a commander and his army, or a villain standing over some huge cliff looking all glorious. Its that comic book style with all the slow motion, but it just comes off looking like a new chip and dales show in vegas. These guys have nothing on the thunder down under, and they suck at stealing bravehearts ideas. I give this movie two thumbs up--my ass.

fuck your opinions.

[Jerome Scuggs]

I hated the narrarator. Sucks how he ends up ending the movie by charging into the screen heroicly for his freedom, just like the narrarator did in Braveheart. It's a movie, so i don't care about historical accuracy. I just think 2 hours is too far to go with such a weak plot (300 dudes holding a single point, no new scenes, strategy) and a couple weak sub-plots (commander and his wife spent 20 mins together on screen and then as he's dying he talks about his lost love, unconvincing, and then the father son combo, yes I laughed when his head was chopped off, all his training apparently couldn't help alert him to a horse galloping up from behind). Horrible dialogue; no I didn't go to the movie to see dialogue or plot structure or character hubris, but if you can't do a little bit you have pretty much failed as a director. How many times do i need to hear this guy yell no mercy, no surrender, victory! A little substance to back up these cliches would be nice. As far as propiganda goes Gran, I saw it more in the continous thread of freedom being shoved down my throat, what would a free man do? fight for freedom! freedom isn't free! I can't believe I heard them say this last one, just reinforcing prowar conformist bullshit. Also, I would say there were 20 shots of a hunchback, a commander and his army, or a villain standing over some huge cliff looking all glorious. Its that comic book style with all the slow motion, but it just comes off looking like a new chip and dales show in vegas. These guys have nothing on the thunder down under, and they suck at stealing bravehearts ideas. I give this movie two thumbs up--my ass.

Chippendales?

[Vatican Assassin]

I hated the narrarator. Sucks how he ends up ending the movie by charging into the screen heroicly for his freedom, just like the narrarator did in Braveheart. It's a movie, so i don't care about historical accuracy. I just think 2 hours is too far to go with such a weak plot (300 dudes holding a single point, no new scenes, strategy) and a couple weak sub-plots (commander and his wife spent 20 mins together on screen and then as he's dying he talks about his lost love, unconvincing, and then the father son combo, yes I laughed when his head was chopped off, all his training apparently couldn't help alert him to a horse galloping up from behind). Horrible dialogue; no I didn't go to the movie to see dialogue or plot structure or character hubris, but if you can't do a little bit you have pretty much failed as a director. How many times do i need to hear this guy yell no mercy, no surrender, victory! A little substance to back up these cliches would be nice. As far as propiganda goes Gran, I saw it more in the continous thread of freedom being shoved down my throat, what would a free man do? fight for freedom! freedom isn't free! I can't believe I heard them say this last one, just reinforcing prowar conformist bullshit. Also, I would say there were 20 shots of a hunchback, a commander and his army, or a villain standing over some huge cliff looking all glorious. Its that comic book style with all the slow motion, but it just comes off looking like a new chip and dales show in vegas. These guys have nothing on the thunder down under, and they suck at stealing bravehearts ideas. I give this movie two thumbs up--my ass.

[D1st0rt]

it just turned out to being spartans coming out of the tunnel and fighting like they are the incredible hulk, and no scratch can be done.

You're trying to tell me that some random group of Persian slapdicks should be as good as possibly the most badass, highly trained fighting force in all of history? WERE YOU NOT WATCHING THE MOVIE? THEY ARE SOLDIERS BASICALLY AS SOON AS THEY POP OUT!

Also, you have apparently never built a Command Center in Alpha Centauri

Superior training and superior weaponry have, when taken together,
a geometric effect on overall military strength. Well-trained,
well-equipped troops can stand up to many more times their lesser
brethren than linear arithmetic would seem to indicate.

[PaulOakenfold]

This movie sucked. The fighting was so unrealistic.

The fact that it actually happened made me skip the rest of the post. A lot of stuff was added for movie purposes. Yes there were elephants, and lots of animals. On Thursday I watched the History channel special on the battle of Thermopolea and Xerxes' epic fuck up.

It's a movie, you're just upset because you saw your people look stupid. The Persians were weak, and Athens ultimately cleaned their clocks, sorry gran guerrrero.

[gran guerrero]

AND ANOTHER THING

GOATS CANT PLAY FUCKING MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS

fucking good historical accuracies my ass

[gran guerrero]

Yah I know I am a biased iranian

This movie sucked. The fighting was so unrealistic (um hello no one can fight that long without getting tired, or catching a disease from the dead bodies, and where was the fucking food, where the fuck did that dude get that apple?)

Persians aren't black, nor chinese, nor did we have elephants or rhinos. Xerxes wasn't a tall black dude with piercings (Persians don't do piercings, it is considered gay, and only the slaves were pierced so we knew that they were slaves). Xerxes was somewhat shorter than being tall, like 5'10" at most, he rode a horse, and looked like every other middle eastern at the time with a big beard and long flowing black hair.

excuse me nickname, did you say this movie was historically accurate? ogres, chainsaw arm freaks, etc all were real. fucking idiot.

I expected at least more strategies being used (which i saw in the beginning of the fighting) but then got sorely disappointed when it just turned out to being spartans coming out of the tunnel (which was their fucking focus point of seige tactics to hold off the persian army) and fighting like they are the incredible hulk, and no scratch can be done.

I could not but help think of how this is such a clear message of propaganda of US interests on anti-iran sentiments. Americans being the spartan badasses that cant die or get hurt unless they are betrayed or killed "cowardlike" by arrows. and the persians (iranians) being the ugly deformed can't fight army.

This movie blowed, and you all suck for liking it. Other than the artistic visual effects the movie sucked.