Is Bush an Idiot?

[Ephemeral]

I think it is fair to say that bush has been responsible for many murders and wars since the beginning of mankind.

[HeavenSent]

Mock if you like... the fact is the evidence is there...
If one were to just give the time to see the facts.. there's no refuting it.. There's videos of people that have tried to disprove this conspiracy and only find themselves on the side they were once against.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

If I hear or see anything more about that error-riddled "Loose Change" video, I'm going to lose it. Seriously. Check your facts.

http://xkcd.com/911_loose_change_viewer_guide.pdf

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

There's a ton of evidence... but it's all being kept under wraps. Just go to google or youtube and watch some 911 videos. It's all there.

Just like the fake moon landing! There's a conspiracy involving hundreds and thousands of people who all keep quiet! It makes sense if you (don't) think about it!

[HeavenSent]

LOL i saw that video yesterday of the fake moon landing.
But seriously, 9-11 is the greatest lie ever sold!

Edit>What's wrong with this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHJHA...elated&search=

[404 Not Found]

The only theory that still drives me crazy is the Kennedy 1 bullet theory. The bullet that stops and turns on its own to kill Kennedy. Good ol' Arlen Spector ruled out in the report that there could have been a 2nd gunman. Politicians are all lying sacks of shit as well as crooks, so why believe anything they say, especially with elections coming up.

I actually prefer Seinfeld's theory on the 2nd spitter over the Kennedy contraversy.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

But seriously, 9-11 is the greatest lie ever sold!

What do you think about evolution?

Edit>What's wrong with this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHJHA...elated&search=

Uh, most of it is conjecture, for one. Secondly, it's all based upon "witnesses" who aren't experts. Seriously, this government can't hide "secret" detention and rendition sites, can't hide wiretapping programs, can't hide the VP shooting an old man in the face, but yet a conspiracy that would involve far more people... it somehow pulls off? I don't think so.

Look, I'm no big fan of this administration. But when the odds (and facts) are so heavily on the side of it NOT being a conspiracy, how could you just write it all off?

[HeavenSent]

Here's a picture of a steel beam that has the residue of a thermite blast. Notice the angle and the melting metal. The angle is what demolitionists do to make the building fall into its footprint.



Edit:> why did we ship the scrap to China? Why couldn't we have melted & recycled all that here in the states? Perhaps to get rid of some of the evidence.

off topic;> I believe in evolution to a point... then intervention gave birth to civilized man.

[ZeUs!!]

When was that picture taken? Perhaps it was a day or two afterwards and they deemed that part of the structure too unsafe so removed the hazard?

[Liquid Blue]

this isn't seriously turning into a 9-11 thread

is it

[404 Not Found]

Ok..will get off the 9/11 soapbox and change this back to the Idiot and Chief!

Bush made the comments over two years ago...do you think this man is not an idiot:

Bush vowed to “defeat the enemy,” and said the United States had a plan for victory.

“We’ve got a plan to succeed, a plan for victory, a plan that will enable a new ally in the war on terror to govern itself, sustain itself and defend itself,” he said. “The stakes are vital.”

To this day, nobody knows of what this plan was and how and who is going to run it! It's easy to talk out your ass like he does. The surge was not the plan....that came long after this & the surge was not a surge considering we have had more troop levels in Iraq on the ground in 2003, 04 & 05 prior to this move.

The Idiot has no plan...plain and simple....other than Haliburton, KBR and Parsons making Billion from no bid contracts that should have been open & not to leave out the billions of taxpayers monies that went to these contractors of which there was no oversite and much of the monies contracted out have never been accounted for and vanished into someones pocket.

Fine line between Bush being an idiot or is he a Crook?

[404 Not Found]

And another thing....Heavensent may not be all that off on the conspiracy issue, but perhaps it was not the U.S. Govt that did the actual setup for 9/11, but they may have well known that it was going to happen on the day and time it did.

There is a report out from the NSA that reveals the plans for an invasion of Iraq prior to 9/11 and even notes that in order to get the American people behind this invasion, the U.S. will require a national catastrophe that can be somehow linked to terrorism and Islam.

I didn't write this crap...the U.S. Govt did and you can read it too:

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB207/index.htm

It's declassified info and for some reason it seems like it is no big deal.

You may have heard the strange story of how George Bush claimed to have seen the first plane hit the World Trade Tower on a television in Booker Elementary School before going into a classroom to hear some children read. This is a strange story because there were no live broadcasts of this impact.

Still stranger was Bush's reaction on being told of the second impact by chief of staff Andrew Card. There was none. Bush simply went on with the school visit and listened to children reading about a pet goat. For twenty minutes.

Ok...so I do not wanna bring 9/11 into this, but man this guy is either a complete idiot or a complete crook!

Regardless of 9/11, Bush and cronies had every intention oin invading Iraq regardless. He still tries to convince the U.S. people that we are in Iraq due to 9/11 when there was no connection and it has been proven!

God this man makes me sick!

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

First off, I apologize to LB for this... I just can't stand misinformation.

Here's a picture of a steel beam that has the residue of a thermite blast. Notice the angle and the melting metal. The angle is what demolitionists do to make the building fall into its footprint.

And you know this because... you're an explosives expert? I think not. And and Zeus says, even if it is thermite residue, how do you know when this picture was taken? Tons and tons of conjecture and armchair expertise. I prefer to leave my analysis to the experts. Find me a few experts who were on the scene, actually DID experiments themselves, and came to the conclusion you're talking about.

Edit:> why did we ship the scrap to China? Why couldn't we have melted & recycled all that here in the states? Perhaps to get rid of some of the evidence.

Plenty of people had their hands on the debris after the event--it's a widely known fact that conspiracy theorists like to conveniently disregard. The fact of the matter is that the last steel wasn't removed from the site until May 29, 2002--a full nine months after the tragedy.

There has been some concern expressed by others that the work of the team has been hampered because debris was removed from the site and has subsequently been processed for recycling. This is not the case. The team has had full access to the scrap yards and to the site and has been able to obtain numerous samples. At this point there is no indication that having access to each piece of steel from the World Trade Center would make a significant difference to understanding the performance of the structures.

off topic;> I believe in evolution to a point... then intervention gave birth to civilized man.

This whole thing is off-topic. It's ridiculous.

You may have heard the strange story of how George Bush claimed to have seen the first plane hit the World Trade Tower on a television in Booker Elementary School before going into a classroom to hear some children read. This is a strange story because there were no live broadcasts of this impact.

George Bush also claims to talk to God. The transcript where he says this is him talking to bunch of kids--he's not the smartest man in the universe anyway, so I don't doubt he just flubbed it. It's hardly an admission of guilt.

Still stranger was Bush's reaction on being told of the second impact by chief of staff Andrew Card. There was none. Bush simply went on with the school visit and listened to children reading about a pet goat. For twenty minutes.

Was he supposed to get up and scream? Perhaps tell all the children to get under their desks? I understand that it was a strange reaction, but if I were in his shoes, I'm not sure what I'd do either. Again, he's not a great leader, that's apparent, but as far as this somehow having to deal with his cuplability, I just don't buy it.

Yes, he's a bad leader. Yes, he's done a lot of shady stuff. Yes, he should be held accountable for the things he's done. But I see no positives about making wild conjecture. People have taken responsibility for the attacks--what more do you want?

Alright, back to the G Dub ridicule.

[404 Not Found]

But I see no positives about making wild conjecture.

I agree & then I read our own Govt NSA released documents that say otherwise. Not to say it is a conspiracy, but to say our intelligence agency didn't know...well....I don't buy that either.

As far as the classroom situation....I would have stood up and leftthe building stating that I was needed elsewhere...god forbid a few elementary school kids would have been startled by this!

He's an Idiot

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

You know it's all love, 404--I know that you're an intelligent guy. And yeah, I agree, the man is an idiot.