Obama has done a terrible job so far.

[kthx]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/2-Obama-officials-No-apf-2491158742.html?x=0&.v=7

Wasn't that one of the platforms that he ran on... the middle class wouldn't get taxed more, only people who made a ton of money? Right, the guy is lying left and right.

[PaulOakenfold]

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[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Unemployment is still rising despite the fact that the markets seem to be on the rise right now, but can you really see that lasting?

Unemployment has never been directly and immediately tied to the markets. When shit started to go bad, it took quite a few months before layoffs really began in earnest. And when things were at their bleakest, there were TONS of economists making statements about how even if the markets turned around, it would be a while before unemployment started showing signs of recovery.

[Izor]

the Dow is up more than 10% since you posted this.

What are we going to do when later this year peoples adjustable rate mortgages go up and their mortgage payment that they can barely keep now goes up as a result?

Unemployment is still rising despite the fact that the markets seem to be on the rise right now, but can you really see that lasting? I cut all my long term investments and am focusing on paying off my car because it doesnt make sense to throw money at a system that is set up for failure. Are you blind enough to think that we wont see terrible inflation in the not so distant future just because we havent seen anything yet?

[Exalt]

I was watching some documentary on PBS that was about the Mexican/US border wall that was being built.

It showed literal pictures of how the wall isn't even a full wall... like... They will build a mile wall or something and then leave like a 5 mile gap in between the next section

You realize how fucking stupid that is? We wasted a billion dollars to build THAT piece of shit? Plus there is like a 5 mile section of US land that is just walled off in between mexico and texas... what a waste of land

[kthx]

Witty comments... Pearl Jam teach me how to do these.. witty comments, all I can do is troll.

[Pearl Jam]

a lot of fake citizens down there...you have to fight the good fight and continue fighting the fakeness. in fact, some would remark that you must "hate" the fake.

[HateTheFake]

in arizona it was like 20 percent, we dealt with alot of illegals

[disorder]

lol @ "millions in "bad-debt / charity care" i.e. people they had to treat that they knew could never pay for the treatment."

that's probably very specific to southern california, in terms of those figures and .."15%". in connecticut is it possible that is lower for some reason? or are you saying that the hospitals everywhere in the country wind up charging to compensate for the significant rate which you speak of?

[Escalate]

His ideas on health care are short on specifics and if he leaves it up to Congress to work out the fine details it will be full of inefficiencies and short on cost reduction from the Republican side (just to fuck things up) and too little choice from the Democrats. Expanding existing systems to cover a larger percentage of the population who are uninsured would be a much better solution then anything else. Too many people are swayed by emotion on the health care issue when it really comes down to simple numbers.

People need to remember this: WE ALREADY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE. It's just an extremely inefficient (and dangerous for those without health coverage) version of it.

ANYONE, even non-citizens without a penny to their name can walk into a hospital right now with a semi-serious condition and get up to hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of treatment. My mom runs a hospital in Southern California. One of their biggest financial charges each year is for millions in "bad-debt / charity care" i.e. people they had to treat that they knew could never pay for the treatment. This treatment despite inability to pay is mandated by the government. Guess how the hospital survives despite 15% of their patients being unable to pay them? By charging the people that CAN pay more (via higher prices billed to insurance companies). To all the retardicans that are here whining about universal coverage: you already provide it, every time you pay your inflated health insurance bill, dumbasses.

The reason why deficit neutral universal coverage is not impossible is because hospitals, drug companies, and insurers can LOWER their prices significantly if EVERYONE is covered and can pay for their services.

[Pummel]

Welcome to texas news with DUKE dylan

[kthx]

Yeah, when you drop billions of fake dollars into something it tends to get better for a while until that money is gone again.

[Burnt]

the stock market is about to crash

the Dow is up more than 10% since you posted this.

[Kolar]

His ideas on health care are short on specifics and if he leaves it up to Congress to work out the fine details it will be full of inefficiencies and short on cost reduction from the Republican side (just to fuck things up) and too little choice from the Democrats. Expanding existing systems to cover a larger percentage of the population who are uninsured would be a much better solution then anything else. Too many people are swayed by emotion on the health care issue when it really comes down to simple numbers.

[Scoop]

It really hasn't been all Obama doing a bad job. I mean, he is pretty incompetent but it is never a good thing when one party controls the house and senate. He is way more left than a lot of people who voted for him first though though i think (I voted for Mccain). I think that he may end up being somewhat successful if the republicans can win some seats in the next elections so he will be forced to cater to them more. I was reading an article that said that is part of why Bill Clinton is viewed as a successful president.


However, the health care bill is complete bullshit. I'm confident it wont get passed but if it does... we are fucked. I'm glad to see that the American people aren't completely stupid. His numbers are going down as they should. He truly wasn't qualified enough to be president. He only won because of the media.


/end adderall rant.


Edit: I think he is a good guy overall. I wouldn't mind drinking a beer with the dude, I just don't think he is an able president. Great pr man though.