Obama has done a terrible job so far.

[Epinephrine]

LOL Ron Paul... LOL!

[kthx]

The best choice between the marxist democrat, and the liberal republican would be none of the above. It is like laughing about my decision to live in America when I am stuck between Mexico and Canada.

[D1st0rt]

If you say production of greenhouse gas emissions, carbon dioxide whatever is causing global warming, then you also have to accept that all of this climate control legislation is not going to do a goddamn thing on the global scale. China and India are cranking that stuff out like its going out of style regardless of what we do. Pollution controls are fine and well to make sure that we have clean air to breathe and water to drink but as far as climate control is concerned it's basically just knocking off 15-20% of our GDP. This is precisely why we didn't sign the Kyoto Treaty (China and India got exemptions) and now we're about to do it on our own anyways.

PS. You may disagree with Dr. Paul, but I don't really think you can laugh at him.

[Cops]

The best choice between the marxist democrat, and the liberal republican would be none of the above. It is like laughing about my decision to live in America when I am stuck between Mexico and Canada.

COG IS JUST A TURNCOAT, PICK YOUR MAN AND STICK WITH HIM.

[Tone]

Obama is a fake phony puppet who works for the forces of darkness and evil and is antifreedom anti liberty anti save the economy and pro increase size of government pro spending more than ever, pro maximum interference in peoples life, pro continue death, deathworship and torture

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

If you say production of greenhouse gas emissions, carbon dioxide whatever is causing global warming, then you also have to accept that all of this climate control legislation is not going to do a goddamn thing on the global scale. China and India are cranking that stuff out like its going out of style regardless of what we do. Pollution controls are fine and well to make sure that we have clean air to breathe and water to drink but as far as climate control is concerned it's basically just knocking off 15-20% of our GDP. This is precisely why we didn't sign the Kyoto Treaty (China and India got exemptions) and now we're about to do it on our own anyways.

But thinking about it this way accomplishes absolutely nothing. If someone (who puts out their own fair share of CO2) says "well, that guy isn't doing anything about it, why should I?", then you're setting up a situation where no one does anything, because no one steps up. It's a weak excuse, but I understand where you're coming from.

What I don't understand is why people have such vehement issues with it. Even if you don't believe in global climate change, it's still okay to keep belching exorbitant amounts of pollutants into the air that you breathe? In a time when we're all worried about the cost of health care, why would you complicate it further by allowing poisons for the sake of "progress?" We're smarter than that (as a whole).

Just because something isn't cheap doesn't mean that it's not worth doing.

[kthx]

I don't mind making our air and water cleaner, but I want it to be because want cleaner air and water, not because some guy made up global warming.

Things like this are the reason why this "stop global warming bullshit" is so bad.

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http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=7431198

Yes, to save energy lets all use potentially dangerous light bulbs that contain dangerous levels of mercury. That should save the earth.

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Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home

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A leading power company has claimed wind energy is so unreliable that even if 13,000 turbines are built to meet EU renewable energy targets, they could be relied on to provide only 7 per cent of the country’s peak winter electricity demand.

E.On has argued that, during the coldest days of winter, so little wind blows that 92 per cent of installed wind capacity would have to be backed up by traditional power stations.

It argues this would require new coal-fired power stations to be built so they could be used in an emergency when little wind blows.

This, E.On suggests, will mean that, to meet renewable targets of 20 per cent of energy being provided from renewables by 2020, the UK’s installed power base will need to rise from 76 gigawatts today to more than 100GW.

The company estimates this could cost £100 billion.

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Unfortunately some of the things that they want us to do to help stop global warming actually make things much worse. And costs us much more when we can't afford it.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

I don't mind making our air and water cleaner, but I want it to be because want cleaner air and water, not because some guy made up global warming.

Bullshit. You've said it yourself that you don't give a fuck and will continue to just trash shit because "you're an American, and you can do whatever you want." Stop talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Yes, to save energy lets all use potentially dangerous light bulbs that contain dangerous levels of mercury. That should save the earth.

Which is why you should just use LED lightbulbs. CFLs are a stop-gap at best. EDIT: And it's not like CFLs are amazingly dangerous. It's the disposal that's the real problem.

Gore’s mansion, located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home

Or... you could just not pay attention to the figureheads (who the fuck listens to what George Clooney, Al Gore, Paris Hilton, et al has to say about anything?) Make up your own fucking mind, robot, but stop trying to pivot the entire argument around Al Gore. Yes, we know you don't like him. Get over it and stop using it as an excuse.

Unfortunately some of the things that they want us to do to help stop global warming actually make things much worse. And costs us much more when we can't afford it.

So let's sit on our ass and continue to do nothing, right? Status quo, yeah! We're already fucking ourselves over--if it's cheap energy now, it's health costs and disposal/containment later. But you're right--let's just keep plugging away, and hopefully by the time we figure it out, it'll be too late. Let's just continue enjoying cheap tube socks and Big Macs until we're too fucking sick to deal with the problem.

[kthx]

LOL so you remember that I don't give a fuck about the environment, I didn't think that some old forum scavenger like you read as many threads as you did. You are right, I purposefully keep the AC in my home at 65 degrees even when I am not home because I want my dog to be comfortable also, I purposefully order more food than I would ever be able to eat, and when I am done with it I throw it away, I have never donated to a charity, my truck spews out more exhaust than any 20 eurotrash cars and it looks and sounds amazing while doing so. I ball up entire notebooks of paper and purposefully throw them away in the trash can instead of the recycling bin, sometimes I even empty out the recycling bin into the trashcan so that nothing gets recycled because in general the save the earth types are more likely to be faggots anyways. Sometimes I use twice as much coal as I need when I BBQ because I want that extra charcoal flavor in my chicken and ribs that I make too much of. And guess what, I can do this because I am an American, and just because some little pussy named Concreteschoolyard on the forums wants to come to the forums and write an essay about how bad I live my life about it doesn't change the fact that I don' really give a flying fuck. God Bless America. Amen.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Forum trolling is cool, guys! It's what you do when you don't have the intelligence to formally respond to an argument!

[kthx]

You think I am trolling? I drive a F-150 quad cab XLT, my AC never goes above 65 degrees, even in the winter, even if I have to use a blanket instead of just turning the AC up. I have literally never recycled in my entire life nor do I plan on it. I mean what I say.

[adam]

ff

[kthx]

lol you recycle, faggot.

[Squeezer]

hey wark, youre a fag :wub:

[Squeezer]

oh good, fluffz made a post. i will be reading that now afk