Democracy in the arab world?

[paradise!]

Para, would you be so kind to not decide what I do or do not care about?

Thank you.

lol I was generalizing, but if you did care, since things are at or nearing a climax, now would be the time you would prove me wrong and contribute to this thread.

laughed long and hard at the pro mubarak policeman "charge" on the protesters earlier today, Mubarak will not step down without a real fucking coup, I am CALLING it now. 1,000 + protesters dead, mubarak forced to step down by UN, pyramids razed, hell, etc.

death to tyrants

[Stayon]

I got a friend in El Gouna who's stuck there and cant come back to Portugal yet, not sure if they still have internet. as for the situation itselft, I think the "revolution" is comming Friday.

[Galleleo]

What I comment about on this forum has no relation at all to what I actually care about.

[paradise!]

I got a friend in El Gouna who's stuck there and cant come back to Portugal yet, not sure if they still have internet. as for the situation itselft, I think the "revolution" is comming Friday.

a huge friday uprising would go against every islamic tenet possible.

[Guest]

I remember reading somewhere, just yesterday, that Mubarak will not be in the next elections. I know there is now official U.S. pressure on Mubarak to stay out of the next elections, though.

Let's hope the pro-democracy activists and citizens over come challenges presented by the pro-Mubarak citizens, and that the revolution does not stop at Tunisia and Egypt.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ <--live coverage.

[Galleleo]

It has already had an effect on Yemen.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/af...541277951.html

[Epinephrine]

The question is whether or not this is another 1989, or just another blip like Tienanmen or Iran 2009.

For those who are into irony, here's a 'funny' news article (from the official Chinese news site):
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english201...c_13717389.htm

[Jerome Scuggs]

itt white americans taking islam 101 and becoming instant imams

a huge friday uprising would go against every islamic tenet possible.

I like how you make this huge statement and then completely fail to qualify it. So I am to take it that you have read the Quran and all of the associated scholarly interpretations (ie the Sunnah and the various ijma's and whatnot), and have deduced that for whatever reason, muslims are not allowed to revolt on fridays? I mean even for a religious tenet that is pretty bizarre

The highest of these obligations, and the supreme demand that our Creator makes from us, is
to strive in His way with a view to establishing His de facto sovereignty on earth. This duty has been
variously described in the Holy Qur’an as Takbeer Al-Rabb (to exalt the Lord), Iqamah Al-Deen (to
establish the system of life based on the obedience to Allah), and Izhar Deen Al-Haq (to make the
True Deen dominant). The same idea can be expressed by using a contemporary term — Islamic
Revolution. Although the term Islamic Revolution is not derived from either the Qur’an or the
Sunnah, we are nevertheless obliged to use this phrase as it effectively communicates the idea of
establishing Islam as a complete system of life.

Under the influence of various revivalist movements, the realization is growing among the
Muslims that the only solution to their problems, the only antidote to the evil remnants of colonialism,
and the only way to freedom from the shackles of the “New World Order” is the establishment of the

politico-socio-economic system of Islam, sometimes known as the system of Khilafah. Indeed, there
are a number of parties and groups working throughout the Muslim world with the aim of bringing
about an Islamic Revolution, or establishing an ideal Islamic state. The crucial point at which most of
them differ is the methodology of the struggle. Some have taken the path of electoral politics, others
have restricted themselves to the domain of educational and missionary work, some have been
engaged in armed or even terrorist activities. So far, however, no group or party has achieved any
noteworthy success. The Iranian Revolution represents a possible exception, and will be discussed
later on.

[Pandagirl!]

Someone told me paradise was Muslim once.

But then again they also said he was a black French-Canadian Muslim Jew.

Nevermind

[paradise!]

I like how you make this huge statement and then completely fail to qualify it. So I am to take it that you have read the Quran and all of the associated scholarly interpretations (ie the Sunnah and the various ijma's and whatnot), and have deduced that for whatever reason, muslims are not allowed to revolt on fridays? I mean even for a religious tenet that is pretty bizarre

you mean you assume I don't qualify it, right? Or are we now listing our CV after every post we make?

Tenet was a little strong, although friday violence is highly discouraged it is not explicitly spoken about in the qu'ran. i dont have the shit memorized like I should, but i'll tell you this, friday is by and far the most important day of the week and a day you would expect the most devout muslims to be in masjid listening to khutba. although my arabic is limited to qu'ranic verses and simple conversations only, i remember reading hadiths on topics like this. friday is more significant than a day of rest, it's described as a rewarding day, a day where prayer means 10x more. google "significance of jum'ah prayer" and "kubta" or khutba or whatever

being the dashing young american youth that i am, I have of course not memorized the qu'ran and don't feel the need to. And I will also gladly say that I have not read all the extremist hadiths . But, only the few that matter.

the french canadian part is untrue panda

[genocidal]

Well this thread may suck balls...

What I comment about on this forum has no relation at all to what I actually care about.

But at least we can all be relieved to learn this bit of information.

Also: paradise is an amateur Imam fluent in tens of Arabic dialects, and the importance of Friday is outlined by esteemed Moslim scholar O'Shea Jackson. I believe we are all in agreement here.

[Crescent Seal]

the french canadian part is untrue panda

so the jew part is right

[Galleleo]

News Flash, not all Egyptians are Muslim!

[Pandagirl!]

so the jew part is right

More specifically, the Muslim-Jew. That's a contradiction... what would he do if he lived in Israel?

[gran guerrero]

More specifically, the Muslim-Jew. That's a contradiction... what would he do if he lived in Israel?

feel right at home?