Rooting Android

[project dragon]

Okay!
So, my service provider finally has an update for 2.3.3 gingerbread.
I wish to download this.
I just rooted my phone (no rom) and from what I can find, it looks like if I upgrade, it will unroot my phone.
I wish to use Titanium to reload all my apps/data, but since it unroots, I will not be able to.

This post tells me how to root it, but I don't understand any of it. I rooted my phone with SuperOneClick, so this whole fugu kernel swap method makes me all "???".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=1182

Anyone know what that means ?

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well today i rooted my phone

i'll go into a bit of detail for anyone curious - phone = htc desire (i hate the name)

i used that cyanogenmod one i was talking about earlier in the thread and i just followed the guide for my specific phone and hboot version but it all worked in the end the program http://revolutionary.io/ at first didn't work for me on linux and then when i tried windows it flashed up and closed down too quickly to read what the problem was, so i read it's faq page http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.p.../revolutionary and ran it as root on linux and bingo worked easy. Think my phone was still on HTC Sync mode from windows ? not sure but it worked anyhow on linux, installed the ClockworkMod Recovery when it prompted me then followed http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC...l_Update_Guide

i'm still testing it out, it's quite a change so far and not all for the better :P But since i synced it to my gmail account all the contacts etc were restored by resycning it which is really handy

still i was on 2.2 with no idea when my carrier was going to do the update and now i've root access and i'm on 2.3.6

BUT on my previous phone version i could disable the camera click in the options ... here you have to use your newly gained root access to rename/delete/replace with blank audiofile the file /system/media/audio/ui/camera_click.ogg

also one thing that 'annoyed' me was my carriers boot animation. Cyanogens one might be cooler but it involves more movement and i was hoping for something alot more minimal, so i renamed that and it falls back to a default android one that is the least annoying off the 3 for me. (/system/media/bootanimation.zip)

(i used file expert from the market place to do this, go into it's settings and give it root permissions and mount root read write , think that program that gives you root access allows you to do this)

anyhow from what i'm used to there is some GUI differences, some better some worse. i've not played around too much it seems to be running smoother looks cooler but with alot more animations.

[Mobey]

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anyone know of a way to make the wireless more stable and faster on android? Takes my phone absolutely years to load forums and sometimes fails to even load and have to refresh.

edit: basically the image shows my phone loading 'convo' app server: forums.trenchwars.net yet it fails to load 99% of the time, this is the same with image heavy websites via my phone browser like tw forums yet when i enable my 3G services, everything loads pretty fast and smooth.. like the network is made for phone browsing (obviously).

[Money]

well today i rooted my phone

i'll go into a bit of detail for anyone curious - phone = htc desire (i hate the name)

i used that cyanogenmod one i was talking about earlier in the thread and i just followed the guide for my specific phone and hboot version but it all worked in the end the program http://revolutionary.io/ at first didn't work for me on linux and then when i tried windows it flashed up and closed down too quickly to read what the problem was, so i read it's faq page http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.p.../revolutionary and ran it as root on linux and bingo worked easy. Think my phone was still on HTC Sync mode from windows ? not sure but it worked anyhow on linux, installed the ClockworkMod Recovery when it prompted me then followed http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC...l_Update_Guide

i'm still testing it out, it's quite a change so far and not all for the better :P But since i synced it to my gmail account all the contacts etc were restored by resycning it which is really handy

still i was on 2.2 with no idea when my carrier was going to do the update and now i've root access and i'm on 2.3.6

BUT on my previous phone version i could disable the camera click in the options ... here you have to use your newly gained root access to rename/delete/replace with blank audiofile the file /system/media/audio/ui/camera_click.ogg

also one thing that 'annoyed' me was my carriers boot animation. Cyanogens one might be cooler but it involves more movement and i was hoping for something alot more minimal, so i renamed that and it falls back to a default android one that is the least annoying off the 3 for me. (/system/media/bootanimation.zip)

(i used file expert from the market place to do this, go into it's settings and give it root permissions and mount root read write , think that program that gives you root access allows you to do this)

anyhow from what i'm used to there is some GUI differences, some better some worse. i've not played around too much it seems to be running smoother looks cooler but with alot more animations.

i just used revolutionary to root my evo... im having trouble on what i do next i got it all working liek it should but i dont get how to flash roms or what roms to use? HELP

[Money]

Okay, so I always thought that after rooting you had no other choice but to install a custom rom. But it looks like these two things do not always have to go hand-in-hand.

The rooting of my phone seems simple enough, it's all this jumbo about custom roms and selecting them and learning how to flash them onto my phone that seems to confuse me and frighten me a bit (with the whole bricking thing). Can I simply just root my phone and use some of the apps that are in the Market that require rooting, while using whichever firmwire/rom came with my phone? Then eventually I'll read up more about the various custom roms that are available to the Captivate and move on from there.

ya teh rooting was the ez part im confused with flashing roms n stuff too

[Money]

nevermind i got cyanogen 7now

[Money]

does it always take like 2 hours for this cyanogenmod to install or someshit?

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i just used revolutionary to root my evo... im having trouble on what i do next i got it all working liek it should but i dont get how to flash roms or what roms to use? HELP

yeah i found this too as the guide said to put the .zip rom onto the root of your sdcard which confused me a bit since my linux on my computer has a seperate root / partition and you cant just write to it.

but as it turns out you can use revolutionary to mount as a mass usb storage device and just put the .zip and google apps .zip in a folder on your sdcard then tell it to install it the zip from that folder and then the google app one.


on another note i got that tip about the cameraclick from the cyanogen forums but as i've since pissed about with the settings i found there does seem to be an option but you dont access it from the camera menu but insteand from the settings > cyanogen settings > sound



also like the bottom dock and the notifcations buttons you can customise.

like the adfree app for rooted phones if it works

does it always take like 2 hours for this cyanogenmod to install or someshit?

not sure what you mean about 2 hours to install ? i thought i would get a much improved boot time but i didn't, feels about the same though it mounts the sdcard quicker i've also wiped that for a fresh start.

[Money]

it got caught in reboot loop but i fixed it

[Money]

BATTERY LIFE IS TERRIBLE lol i took it off charger with full charge at midnight and by 4 am of no one touching teh phoone the batt died nd shut off

[Mobey]

@Money, download the app 'Juice Defender', I installed the free or 'lite' version on my unrooted galaxy ace and improved battery life by atleast 30% imho although not sure if it would have any effect on a rooted android.

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BATTERY LIFE IS TERRIBLE lol i took it off charger with full charge at midnight and by 4 am of no one touching teh phoone the batt died nd shut off

what mobey said

but also there seems to be a bug with this affecting some phones where the defualt ONDEMAND govenor doesn't let the phone sleep so you should change to a static one POWERSAVE or PERFORMANCE

settings > cyanogenmod settings > performance > cpu settings > available govenors

i had the same problem and switched to PERFORMANCE and got better battery life lol charged it last night and was in work today for 8 hours and my phone seems ok for battery life now. Will see how it goes.

The thread i found that told me to switch the settings also said about recalibrating the battery after flashing a rom but i've not done that yet.

https://market.android.com/details?i...erycalibration

[project dragon]

The battery calibration I believe deletes whatever battery stats you have on your phone. They should be wrong after you mod it I believe. With the app PD (not me!) linked to, wait till the app says you are at 100%, then press the button.

Another thing that was suggested to me, though I do not know if it is universal for all phones, is to "bump" my battery:
- Charge to 100% while on
- Turn off phone, plug into charger. Wait until the phone says you are fully charged
- Unplug charger, turn phone on, let it fully load up, then turn it off again.
- Plug in charger again, Wait until phone says fully charged.
- Unplug, turn back on, continue with life.

I did that and I am pretty sure it helped. Occasionally I also let the battery completely drain until the phone dies, then I recharge to full.
If anything, CM7 should be GIVING your phone better battery life!

Juice defender is alright, it does what it's supposed to do. I found though with my phone use I could get away with not using it as long as I charge my phone once I go to bed. Usually get to ~45% by the end of the day.

Also! PD, does CM7 have some sort of calendar app that's included that syncs to google calendar? I realized now that the built-in calendar app on my phone does a pretty decent job at syncing my calendars.

[Jason]

bump charging is not advisable. it ultimately won't net you all that much extra power from the battery, but it will definitely decrease the battery's lifespan.

pd is correct about the governor issue. not all mods/kernels will play nice with all phones. what phone do you have btw, money? if battery life dropped that drastically, it's likely one of two things: either it's the governor issue pd mentioned, or you didn't do a proper wipe before flashing cm7. this is what happens when you use something like revolutionary as opposed to flashing manually. doing it manually is more complicated, but it is absolutely worth the time and effort because you can ensure it's being done the right away and you avoid fucking up your phone. (no boot loops or shitty batterly life, for example )

you may need to wipe your battery stats, and as project said, you must be sure the phone is at full 100% charge before doing so. an improperly calibrated battery will make the phone think there's less juice left than there truly is, and the phone will shutdown.

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Also! PD, does CM7 have some sort of calendar app that's included that syncs to google calendar? I realized now that the built-in calendar app on my phone does a pretty decent job at syncing my calendars.

apparently so! i dont use my caander much but i updated my gmail one and it synced to my phone (and vice versa) i did install the google addons with cyanogen as it recommends (and cuase i sync my phone with my gmail anyway)



i like the moving cloud wallpaper even if it's a needless waste of battery :F