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  • #46
    Originally posted by Rab View Post
    This is another problem you should be fixing. It does matter.
    Yea 2pac has been pretty disruptive lately on forums as one example.

    This isn't another problem, this is THE problem, staff always finding excuses to avoid moderating the community.
    If you're going to do a thing you should to it to the best of your ability or don't do it at all.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by afghan View Post
      Everyone knows rab is one of the most sensitive people in the game and we can’t take his opinions about banning everyone seriously.
      Careful assuming that. You never know how people are feeling if they're quiet. I just post a lot, which can give the impression of being more sensitive than I am. If I don't post about it then nobody knows there's an issue because most people don't bother to raise their issues. It's like when a kid in class asks a question nobody else asked but everyone was glad someone did. I know people appreciate it because they tell me so from time to time.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Rab View Post
        I've sent hundreds of cheater calls and several tickets into the ticketing system over the past few years. I've even had staffers tell me to use ignore.txt to block ?messages. Pure incompetence. Nobody in response to cheater calls or tickets ever said it was necessary to email you personally. If that's the process you need to get the bots updated and staff trained. I've even had times of getting so annoyed with staff's lack of action that I've posted reports on the forum, which of course resulted in more abuse that wasn't deal with.

        On this particular subject, staff essentially doesn't exist, I don't know if anyone's actually receive any legitimate help.
        The ticketing system is completely broken. Plenty of things need to get done but again, we are all volunteers and that Dev stuff is far outside my wheelhouse. All staff know that if they need a consult or can't make a decision on a specific call, that it can be forwarded to me or the other Ban Ops for further review. If you aren't getting a response you like, please contact me directly.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Rab View Post
          This is another problem you should be fixing. It does matter.
          Let me just wave a magic wand and find the time to moderate forums as well. You might be right that it matters, but we can barely cover in-game right now. Sorry.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Nipple Nibbler View Post

            Yea 2pac has been pretty disruptive lately on forums as one example.

            This isn't another problem, this is THE problem, staff always finding excuses to avoid moderating the community.
            If I'm not mistaken, you've contributed to the game, so you know the time that goes into it. If you're so angry with how the forums are moderated, you're free to join up and ask to take that task on. Is that something you would like? I can point you in the direction of those who can make it happen.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Rab View Post
              The other issue with threads like this is the trolls show up to try and make it look not one-sided. Look at the posts from these accounts in this thread, pure derailment.

              Roger Rabbit
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              There are loads of accounts belonging to trolls on this forum. No idea which players they correspond to. Certain some of them have multiple accounts tho. Certain some of them are banned in-game.

              Rab—what is your criteria to partake in this debate? I must have a recognizable name in order for my opinion to matter? If any of my posts in this thread offended you, please tell me what I said and I’ll make a mental note of it.

              From my understanding, I have been civilized but perhaps you can enlighten me where I haven’t been.

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              • #52
                Oh we are playing that game lmao alright rab. You want honest views on your wanting to silence people I have watched for years. Also no you may not know me but I do not play under alts. I do play under one other handle because of a mess up with a old staff member resetting my pw to this handle lmao but that a long story speaking of which why dont I get my pw back to my this handle now lmao rather than you try to lable one more person a troll who doesnt agree with your warped view of the world and people who arent as thin skinned as you.

                And voth you are correct people have been putting in their views on this board for ages. Back when it was tan with the other boards before rab was even around we were never even having these discussions. It wasnt untill recently i say that but i'm getting old at this point people decided they wanted to start silencing each other and rab's silence list broke from the front page lol. Now here we are another resurgence of censorship sweeping across not only our nation but the world and it hits tw once again. We have been through this before i'm sure we will make it though this again. I find it funny so sue me call me a troll what ever. IMHO TW/SS has been true to its roots for many years be that because of the mods be that because of the community be it because of many things.

                One thing that has not changed is people have different views on different things. What has changed is having honest discussions with each other about topics. Then if you disagree omg this person is a troll i must get back at them get them silenced... Wtf happened to just ignore it? Are you eyeballs so harmed by seeing words your so traumatised you have a seizure? Because I do have epilepsy and it does suck to have a seizure.. For fucks sake be honest with your self.. If you dont see the humor in it ignore it if it is outright breaking a rule like voth said email him and he will take steps. Otherwise well what exactly are you expecting? You arent looking for compromise right? You just want your stuff enforced or is there compromise and what would that look like? I mean what we have now is working i mean who are all these new people? When you want to put this game up to current games ok.. Why shouldnt we have a voip lol?

                A lot of this isnt even bothering to look at the root of many problems your just saying these people need to go cuz..

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Voth View Post
                  I have a feeling that if we jump off the ledge in either direction, we will have a lot of pissed off players, and it won't just be idiots like Tower that no one cares about. Veteran players will care too, and might even quit because of it. Are we ready for that?
                  Which vets said they'd quit if the 10 most abusive people are banned? I don't think that's a legitimate concern.
                  Of course if you go round banning vets then they would care, but that isn't what's needed, not the objective at all.
                  It's just a matter of giving the power to people with good judgement. Whether that's you, or me, or Nippler, doesn't really matter.
                  I have volunteered to deal with this in game, and to moderate the forum, just need the powers and the space to get on with the task without having to debate everything.
                  Last edited by Rab; 01-14-2021, 01:55 PM.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by make tw great again View Post
                    Rab—what is your criteria to partake in this debate? I must have a recognizable name in order for my opinion to matter? If any of my posts in this thread offended you, please tell me what I said and I’ll make a mental note of it. From my understanding, I have been civilized but perhaps you can enlighten me where I haven’t been.
                    You're trying to waste my time and I'm not going to bite. How about you tell us your in-game name?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by rothe View Post
                      -snip-
                      ?find Rothe = 10+ days.
                      How about you tell us your in-game name?

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                      • #56
                        Because the people who know me already know who I am lmao.. I dont need your validation

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Voth View Post

                          If I'm not mistaken, you've contributed to the game, so you know the time that goes into it. If you're so angry with how the forums are moderated, you're free to join up and ask to take that task on. Is that something you would like? I can point you in the direction of those who can make it happen.
                          I was an ER before, I left on my own accord, did not get fired and I never abused powers. I took every help call seriously, even if it was with someone I did not like. I have tried to get back on staff twice now since I came back in 2019. The first time I went strait to the dean of staff who at the time was Henry, and I quote this "being too much of a comedian" was the reason I was denied. The second time some random pubbers I have never even heard of got in before anyone even told me if I was being considered or not after making an official application.

                          When I recently put in the help call for Amnesti spamming I got robo'd by none other than Beam. It's pretty insulting that Beam can get on staff, when he doesn't give a crap about the game and he's one of the biggest trolls in the game.

                          There are middle grounds to take here, we don't need to outright ban everyone being a dink in the game, but staff shouldn't just idle by and do nothing either. I feel like when there's problems with people in the community, staff could at least take 30 seconds from their busy afk schedule to talk to accusing players instead of just say nobody cares, use ignore. Or even small periods of silencing. Maybe take a day and sit down with some people and re-write the rules if needed.

                          I can just imagine the trash that's in Jessups ?message box from some of these players, I mean I get it, I am old and politically incorrect, and it's weird, but that is his life choices, he is still a human being, yet Amnesti gets treated better.


                          I've said me piece, I am not going to let this take up more of my day, have fun in trench wars. I was just ranting and I will leave you with some Amnesti quotes from my ?log

                          Amnest> racka told me this earlier: i wud kiss u right in the poop whole

                          Amnest> dik ............ COCK

                          Amnest> god loves my cock

                          Amnest> pointing finger into nose is fine, as long as u do it with feeling
                          Amnest> if u fail with that, u prob injure ur cock too when u masterbate

                          Amnest> cock can stand for 40 secs. but urs can stand for 40 MINS

                          Amnest> ive watched some porno, but i need to start over my erection, every 50 secs

                          Amnest> public assasin has a very juicy cock!!!!

                          Amnest> but srs now, can u rly keep and erection for hours?

                          Amnest> can u calm me brother?
                          Amnest> just say ..... ur dik is pretty fine, or something.

                          Amnest> give me that pussy toy

                          Amnest> but i need to find some kind of pills combo for cock
                          Amnest> it can stand for 1 min instead of 30 mins

                          Amnest> river, hows large is ur cock
                          Amnest> river has an 8 inch cock, and he says: my cock is 9,5

                          Amnest> a baldhead screamed to his girl friend in town, pinting at me: That guy has a huge cock!

                          Amnest> is handjob better than fuking the tits?

                          T Amnest> racka, when ur gf gives u head, does she masterbate ur cock at the same time as she gives u head?

                          Amnest> is it more normal to get both handjob and head? or is it more common with only head?

                          Amnest> does ur gfs give u handjob at the same time as she sux ur cock?

                          T Amnest> did u get head only, or did she masterbate ur cock when she sucked it?

                          T Amnest> when u had sex best, did u get head only, or did she masterbate ur cock when she sucked it?

                          T Amnest> i wanna know valuable her masterbation is

                          T Amnest> TELL ME NOW, ur gfs only gives head, or does she gives masterbation when she sux ur cock

                          T Amnest> cripple, ur gf gives head only, or does she gives handjob at the same time as she sucks it?

                          T Amnest> i heard from a source he gets both masterbation and head at the same time

                          T Amnest> im planning to only use titfuck and blowjob, i cant risk the cock to get injured again, since fixed the cock

                          T Amnest> cant let her masterbate the cock

                          Amnest> i cant risk the cock-rot go back to the left. so ill have sex in all possible ways except she masterbating it

                          Amnest> make sure to not masterbate my cock too much

                          T Amnest> i never though handjob cud be such a deal. but racka atleast comforted me

                          Amnest> all other parts in sex are good enff, handjob not needed, since it can injure the cock

                          Amnest> i wanna hang with steadman, just like his balls hang.

                          Amnest> cant u guys just suk cock
                          Amnest> fkin whores
                          Last edited by Nipple Nibbler; 01-14-2021, 02:14 PM. Reason: typo
                          If you're going to do a thing you should to it to the best of your ability or don't do it at all.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Rab View Post
                            Which vets said they'd quit if the 10 most abusive people are banned? I don't think that's a legitimate concern.
                            Of course if you go round banning vets then they would care, but that isn't what's needed, not the objective at all.
                            It's just a matter of giving the power to people with good judgement. Whether that's you, or me, or Nippler, doesn't really matter.
                            I have volunteered to deal with this in game, and to moderate the forum, just need the powers and the space to get on with the task without having to debate everything.
                            Who said anything about vets quitting because of it? I didn't, so not sure where you got that. I said you'd have plenty of pissed off players. And then instead of going back and forth with you here, it would be someone else with a different problem.

                            Without going back through page by page, zidane and MHz are two veteran players who spoke out in defense of Amnesti being able to play and speak. They didn't go crazy writing an essay about it, but I saw two veteran players who have been involved in the highest levels of competition in the zone for decades speak out in his defense. Would that defense roll over to players like Manco and Tower that they have little no association with? Not sure, you'd have to ask them. But the point is that pub idiot or vet idiot, if we are going down the road of making judgement calls on if a player can play or speak going forward, you have to enforce it universally. I can't ban Tower but allow Amnesti to play. That's not how this works. We need to treat everyone the same or just keep our hands off of it unless there is a written rule violation.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Nipple Nibbler View Post

                              I was an ER before, I left on my own accord, did not get fired and I never abused powers. I took every help call seriously, even if it was with someone I did not like. I have tried to get back on staff twice now since I came back in 2019. The first time I went strain to the dean of staff who at the time was Henry, and I quote this "being too much of a comedian" was the reason I was denied. The second time some random pubbers I have never even heard of got in before anyone even told me if I was being considered or not after making an official application.

                              When I recently put in the help call for Amnesti spamming I got robo'd by none other than Beam. It's pretty insulting that Beam can get on staff, when he doesn't give a crap about the game and he's one of the biggest trolls in the game.

                              There are middle grounds to take here, we don't need to outright ban everyone being a dink in the game, but staff shouldn't just idle by and do nothing either. I feel like when there's problems with people in the community, staff could at least take 30 seconds from their busy afk schedule to talk to accusing players instead of just say nobody cares, use ignore. Or even small periods of silencing. Maybe take a day and sit down with some people and re-write the rules if needed.

                              I can just imagine the trash that's in Jessups ?message box from some of these players, I mean I get it, I am old and politically incorrect, and it's weird, but that is his life choices, he is still a human being, yet Amnesti gets treated better.


                              I've said me piece, I am not going to let this take up more of my day, have fun in trench wars. I was just ranting and I will leave you with some Amnesti quotes from my ?log

                              Amnest> racka told me this earlier: i wud kiss u right in the poop whole

                              Amnest> dik ............ COCK

                              Amnest> god loves my cock

                              Amnest> pointing finger into nose is fine, as long as u do it with feeling
                              Amnest> if u fail with that, u prob injure ur cock too when u masterbate

                              Amnest> cock can stand for 40 secs. but urs can stand for 40 MINS

                              Amnest> ive watched some porno, but i need to start over my erection, every 50 secs

                              Amnest> public assasin has a very juicy cock!!!!

                              Amnest> but srs now, can u rly keep and erection for hours?

                              Amnest> can u calm me brother?
                              Amnest> just say ..... ur dik is pretty fine, or something.

                              Amnest> give me that pussy toy

                              Amnest> but i need to find some kind of pills combo for cock
                              Amnest> it can stand for 1 min instead of 30 mins

                              Amnest> river, hows large is ur cock
                              Amnest> river has an 8 inch cock, and he says: my cock is 9,5

                              Amnest> a baldhead screamed to his girl friend in town, pinting at me: That guy has a huge cock!

                              Amnest> is handjob better than fuking the tits?

                              T Amnest> racka, when ur gf gives u head, does she masterbate ur cock at the same time as she gives u head?

                              Amnest> is it more normal to get both handjob and head? or is it more common with only head?

                              Amnest> does ur gfs give u handjob at the same time as she sux ur cock?

                              T Amnest> did u get head only, or did she masterbate ur cock when she sucked it?

                              T Amnest> when u had sex best, did u get head only, or did she masterbate ur cock when she sucked it?

                              T Amnest> i wanna know valuable her masterbation is

                              T Amnest> TELL ME NOW, ur gfs only gives head, or does she gives masterbation when she sux ur cock

                              T Amnest> cripple, ur gf gives head only, or does she gives handjob at the same time as she sucks it?

                              T Amnest> i heard from a source he gets both masterbation and head at the same time

                              T Amnest> im planning to only use titfuck and blowjob, i cant risk the cock to get injured again, since fixed the cock

                              T Amnest> cant let her masterbate the cock

                              Amnest> i cant risk the cock-rot go back to the left. so ill have sex in all possible ways except she masterbating it

                              Amnest> make sure to not masterbate my cock too much

                              T Amnest> i never though handjob cud be such a deal. but racka atleast comforted me

                              Amnest> all other parts in sex are good enff, handjob not needed, since it can injure the cock

                              Amnest> i wanna hang with steadman, just like his balls hang.

                              Amnest> cant u guys just suk cock
                              Amnest> fkin whores
                              Henry ran a backwards ship and was the epitome of "too much power in one person's hand" with him basically running staff into the ground with personal vendettas as his reasoning. That's the truth. It went on too long, and he's no longer in that position for a reason.

                              I'm 100% sure that your interest in being staff has been considered and you're on the docket to be hired as soon as an upper staff member can catch you online. Perhaps as part of your contributions with us, you'd be interested in forum moderation? We haven't had someone take the time to do it in a long time, and it's overdue. I can arrange that if you're interested.
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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Voth View Post
                                Who said anything about vets quitting because of it? I didn't, so not sure where you got that.
                                lol you said vets might quit
                                Originally posted by Voth View Post
                                Veteran players will care too, and might even quit because of it. Are we ready for that?

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