Pub Proposal

[Lizzo]

cool chat between 2 losers who butt hurt from levs cause they basic, BASIC

[Rab]

I'll get u with 1 and 3 sometime. See how bizarre u think it is then

[Poseidon]

I don't think people change their opinion on this every 20 mins. So asking them to keep voting would be annoying.
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We could waste time building bot functionality to remember preferences, but it would end up with the vote outcome being always the same.

if you look at pub every 20 minutes there is usually a significantly different group of players, meaning there would be an entirely different vote. its always in flux. im not sure what your point is. also i personally would not always vote the same. as ive said before, if its the right terrs and a good dynamic (and no levis), i prefer traditional pub over attachmode.

So if we had a "levis can't make kills on public freqs" that would remove that annoyance and allow people to levi just on priv freqs, and still allowing priv-freq LTs

i dont feel this would be enough. the benefit of my proposal is that instead of !lolnope buying exemption for the entire arena, the !buy exempt only works for one levi player at a time (and is cheaper as a compromise) ... this means less constant oversaturation of levis.

1. You can totally ruin a game by attaching and not detaching.
2. You should only be able to attach to people in the base. Attaching to someone in narnia is frustrating for the player and very bad for the team.
3. Having someone attached makes your ship slow. People can keep attaching to you to make your ship slow. So you must be able to opt-out of being attachable.
4. Currently attachmode makes terrs useless. The terr must not become useless. Maybe give it loads of energy or something to keep the anchor role viable.

2. is nitpicky.
1 and 3 is a bit of a bizarre complaint to me seeing as you can instantly detach people by pushing the attach button... tip from the sensei: bind attach to your spacebar. i never have problems.
4. i agree. i proposed in other post giving it an extra port and a single repel. whatever we can do to help keep terr alive more is better for the game, especially when its not in attachmode. perhaps a points race would be better instead of games dragging on forever, though logistically more complicated. also for terr L2 bullets at the same speed but slower rate as is current could be interesting.

regardless, all of these problems will exist in a similar capacity with or without the implementation of my proposal and are best tabled for later discussion.

[Rab]

I don't think people change their opinion on this every 20 mins. So asking them to keep voting would be annoying.

We could waste time building bot functionality to remember preferences, but it would end up with the vote outcome being always the same. As there's nothing dynamic about it, there's really no point having bot functionality for a vote, just pick a setting and apply it permanently.

It's obvious that purepub ON would win because the levi's are outvoted, which is why lolnope is a fucking meme. May as well just enable purepub permanently.

However... there's a compromise for levis... the main downside of levis is having them on your team, flying around narnia, contributing nothing. So if we had a "levis can't make kills on public freqs" that would remove that annoyance and allow people to levi just on priv freqs, and still allowing priv-freq LTs. Make the freq 99 rewards higher with more prompts to try and get LT hunters to actually use it.

The other issue that must be dealt with is the power-up ball, which turns sharks and javs into levis, and levis into thors.
Also the "this troll can prevent your flag victory using meme features" - small weasel, shield, super. Must be addressed.

I'm less certain what the vote result for attach mode would be, however I think before this could be taken seriously some changes are needed as attach mode is currently game-breaking:
1. You can totally ruin a game by attaching and not detaching.
2. You should only be able to attach to people in the base. Attaching to someone in narnia is frustrating for the player and very bad for the team.
3. Having someone attached makes your ship slow. People can keep attaching to you to make your ship slow. So you must be able to opt-out of being attachable.
4. Currently attachmode makes terrs useless. The terr must not become useless. Maybe give it loads of energy or something to keep the anchor role viable.

[Poseidon]

also, qan....

say this were implemented and you had a general trend where 80% of players voted for attachmode and 90% for purepub. what then? what percentage would be enough for you to consider significant changes to the levi, im curious?

[Poseidon]

every 20 minutes the bot takes a vote after current game ends:

PUREPUB: yes(1)/no(2)
ATTACHMODE: yes(1)/no(2)

players can !buy exempt, !buy vote, etc etc., details can be worked out later