New Staff?

[PUNK rock]

you're such a retard. seeing as how you dont play elim/baseelim, (and even if you did it probably would not even enough to see repeated teaming in them and use ?cheater to try to get it stopped), you wouldn't know either way if what i'm saying is true or not. the fact here is that honestly most pure basing staffers dont really act and pull the cheaters out of the game when they happen to actually answer one of those calls. out of all the basing staffers there are (must be like 50-60 of them), ironically enough, Pure_Luck himself is the only one i actually see who will do it.

Congratulations on not knowing me again. I do know what teaming is, as I used frequented elim/belim. I never CARED enough to use ?cheater. I figure it's a game and it was more fun to have to try harder to win.

And with your basing staffers arguement...you used the staff list, but those are all zhs and ers. It's been repeated several times that mods deal with cheater calls. What you see isn't what happens. Drop the arguement, you aren't getting anywhere, but I guess only retards can see that.

[Stabwound]

It's probably because I typed:

:Andruil:6%

twice before I realized that your name is spelled:

:Anduril:6%

My bad on that one. I did respond to the call right away though.

I just noticed this... not trying to call you a liar or anything, but if you sent a message to :Anduril: it would go to "Anduril." anyway as long as there wasn't anyone online with the exact name "Anduril". Say you were going to message :Blood: but only Bloodzombie was online. BZ would get that message...

[Troll King]

It wasn't a period that he mistyped. He transposed the r and the u so that wouldn't work unless he only typed "And" and no one else had a similar starting name.

[Kim]

Busted with no slack left dangling.

[Fit of Rage]

I had typed ?find and to make sure there wasn't someone else with a name starting before that (there was, like Andersthegreat or something) so I typed out the whole thing. Little known to me was my typo until I realized it two ?help calls later.

[Due]

lol it happens

[Downdraft]

Awesome, in a forum where the number of basers is so much higher then the number of duelers, talking about basers not doing something welll is a loss battle, even if you have a point. Naturally the number of ppl backing you up is incredebly small...this doesn't mean that your point isnt good, because it is.

TW may be a base zone, but we have basers, and we have duelers, so both should be represented in staff, for the simple reason that efforts made by staffers dont go only one way and leave the others with no innovation.

Deans are basers, basers get recruted...if a dueler wants to become staff, it's..like...LOTS of work, trust me . I once read somewhere that deans recruit ppl who are closer to them...well I can't really argue there, since this way, and in theory, deans really know who they are hiring insted of learning who someone is, for example, someone who is recomended to them and they don't really know. The problem is...exaclty what we have: Deans are basers, they are in basing squads, they know basers and get along with their community, their type of players, so when they recruit, its natural that basers will be the 1st choice, as a dueler may seem just another guy they haven't really heard about.

So yea, i agree with awesome: the dueling community should be bigger and more influent in staff imo. How, i dont know...i really don't know how this can be changed, so i don't have a solution. Just stating the problem $.

Altho, and this has to be said, i have based something like 20 or 30 hours in my ss time, i'm really out of the basing community, and yet, when i was staff, all the basers thre were nice and cool ppl, eager to help and perform well. So it's not fair at all to say: Hey, basers are worse staffers...let's just say that they handle better basing businesses, while duelers naturally deal better with dueling businesses. Therefore, another reason to let the duel community to have a higher input in staff.

phew

[Awesome]

YEAH downdraft, exactly!!! someone gets it!!!
as i've said a hundred times this post, i got nothin personal against these basers or think they're bad people.
also the one solution i added was since THE PUSHER is gone (although he's not really a dueler i guess, he still knew a lot of people from across the zone and was very qualified), was to hire a new co-dean with Pure_Luck ... someone who maybe knew more people across the whole zone or the dueling side atleast to give equal opportunity to anyone in tw who is really qualified to be on staff and not just people from rb/incuria/wr (rip)/spastic/pallies/diso/a-s
im sayin for quality of staff as well as for opportunities for qualified people outside of ?go base to get a chance too.

[Kolar]

So yea, i agree with awesome: the dueling community should be bigger and more influent in staff imo. How, i dont know...i really don't know how this can be changed, so i don't have a solution. Just stating the problem $.

Then you don't agree with Awesome. We know there are more basing staffers so we can stop dedicating essays to that fact. Awesome is saying that because there are more staffers in lower postions on TW staff that it is effecting the smod/Mod effectiveness in the Belim/elim arenas.


Knowing the way the deans find, review and recruit players is key but being a baser is not a prereq. I, nor many here can really say much more about recruitment procedures but what really matters are the recomendations, your involvment in TW, your contribution to the zone and your reputation. All of this has nothing to do with your chosen game play and the community you take part in. This has worked well for other people (not that people should care so much about volunteering to be hired without pay as a customer serives rep in a 2d online space ship game, Yeah, I probably just made the job sound like shit). So cybering Pure and Pusher probably isn't gonna get you much, maybe a ban or two. If you want more duelers in staff then advise them to follow the list of possible paths to take, because basing isn't one of them.



fairness: Pretty much doesn't matter... if a staffer would and does the equal ammount of work at the same level of effectiveness reguardless of their league affiliation. You can't (and just saying it again so you can't counter with the same faulty logic, or respond at all, plz?) the ZH/ER pool for which you claim to be effecting the b/elim policing is not moderating those arenas, and again a baser would know what teaming is ect ect... General response time is low.

in a forum where the number of basers is so much higher then the number of duelers, talking about basers not doing something welll is a loss battle...

Just a little side comment, wouldn't this suggest then that basers are more intrested in being part of the general community and as such could account for a higher turn out on staffers??? If more people are willing to project a positive forum and community presents then wouldn't that suggest they are more fit for the job, being more knowledgeable and friendly?

[Worr]

Shush

Hehe, if it isn't one thing, it's another. First it was targeting specific staff members. You were told to send your complaints to that e-mail address. Now you think you can get away with it if you make fun of "Baser" staff. I hope this isn't a real arguement. "Oh my god, he bases. He's getting staff." What? I'm definitely sure upper staff hires new people because they are good as a spider, shark, or terr. Yep, that's how they choose. Get those skills up!

[Xuana]

Kolar should be staff, he's the only one that doesn't smoke the pole.

[Fit of Rage]

[FACETIOUS]Kolar isn't a baser, he's a radio host. How could he POSSIBLY become staff?[/FACETIOUS]

[Hot Rod]

Sigh Awesome, just becuase people base now, doesn't mean they have never played elim over and over again.

I've played elim for years before I got into basing, Under Your Final Breath in 99-01, now im on HR and base. You can't make very large generalizations that basers don't know @#$* about elim games.

[Awesome]

Then you don't agree with Awesome. We know there are more basing staffers so we can stop dedicating essays to that fact. Awesome is saying that because there are more staffers in lower postions on TW staff that it is effecting the smod/Mod effectiveness in the Belim/elim arenas.

that's not what i'm saying at all. i havent even mentioned any mods (because they're all inactive as hell it seems). in elim/baseelim/base ... ERs have the same power as mods. wasn't sure if you're aware of that kolar so well, now you are.

Just a little side comment, wouldn't this suggest then that basers are more intrested in being part of the general community and as such could account for a higher turn out on staffers??? If more people are willing to project a positive forum and community presents then wouldn't that suggest they are more fit for the job, being more knowledgeable and friendly?

this is a friendly forum? wtf? and most duelers dont bother with forums but doesn't mean they dont play the game just as much, or more than basers.

And hot rod, my topic here is not only about the competancy of most of the basing staffers to take the cheater calls, but also about equal opportunity for other people throughout the zone who dont like ?go base to join staff. i also never said that ALL basing staffers are bad picks... in fact, i dont think at any point i said that basing staffers was a bad thing... i just think it should be more 50/50

[Mulkero]

Yeah, If you use ?help to find out whether someone is double squadding you're going to get alot of uhming and ahing as the only people can tell you that are TWDOps, and you're lucky if ones online when you take the call since theres only a few of them, so then we have to hold the message and pass it on to them which can be difficult due to time differences and so on.

I've tried looking if TWD ops are online and they're not when I am, then I've tried to use the 'contact' thingie on TWD-site, no answer.