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  • Pure Pub Problems

    There's a little problem with pure pubs: they're usually full. I don't want to get in the middle of levterrs, so if I want to go to a pub, it's lots of "esc+a+esc+esc+a+esc+esc+a...". So are the arenas really that popular? Should there be more pure pub bots? (Next one could be RoboDog)

    They're so full it wouldn't hurt to have one more pure pub with a bot that changes into pure pub mode depending on how many people there are in pubs, but I don't think that's the whole answer. So many people there just duel in the spawn, go roofing, or idle. (Mr. Arrogant 2 should be a bit more active in these arenas.) I think it was until 30 people in pub that new people get thrown into those it, leaving room for just 6 people who really want to go there.

    I think that, at least in the first pub, there should be a baseelim style timer that specs people who don't go to the base. The welcome message from the bot should include info on how to change arenas, (for those who really don't know how to do it) and a suggestion to do so if they don't like to base.

    This could solve a series of problems: 1) would most likely free up more spots for people interested in basing in a pub 2) would make the base game more active, sometimes people aren't really interested in it, even in pure pubs 3) would get rid of those damn roofers. (yea in theory it's a valid strategy, but a terr on roof with 5 javs, 2 wbs and 2 weasels is the closest thing to a levterr you'll ever get.)

    Before you start shouting "?go base, newb!" consider this: newbs who might potentially want to base, don't know about that arena. If they do end up there by accident, they'll sit in spec trying to enter, maybe ask "how do I get in?", but all in all, they're pretty confused. And even if they do stay there and get the hang of it, usually they won't get picked because no one knows them. Even if they do get picked, they'll be most likely spids, but maybe they want to play shark or terr?

    Another counter argument for this would be: "Ok, good idea, but why not make an arena... like... ?go basing for those things, keep pubs free, unrestricted!". Because it was tried. Arena "basing" really does exist, with welcome message: "Welcome to the Pure Basing arena. Levis cannot attach. Public freqs can have 15 players and private freqs are disabled." After a drop in user numbers, it would die, and do you really think the pubbers would go from pub to pub messaging: ".?go basing for pure basing pub!!"? Would people come? I doubt it. It might work for ?go base in chats, but that's very much a different story. No, it has to be a pub so people really do end up there.

    Yes, in theory unrestricted is good, but why do we have a forum for talk that's about tw, and then we have a forum for trash talk? Why do we have moderators on forums? Because they want to destroy the freedom of speech? If people do want to duel in spawn or levterr, I don't think it's that big of a problem to go to a different pub.

    I talked to a staff member about this, and he advised me to create a thread. Public oppinion on this is kind of the thing that decides. So what do you think?

  • #2
    Personally, I'm not going back to pub unless they reinvent it... Right now, its not any fun.

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    • #3
      Pub with usage?

      [QUOTE=Kuukunen]There's a little problem with pure pubs: they're usually full. I don't want to get in the middle of levterrs, so if I want to go to a pub, it's lots of "esc+a+esc+esc+a+esc+esc+a...". So are the arenas really that popular? Should there be more pure pub bots? (Next one could be RoboDog)
      [QUOTE]
      I agree, but maybe for more advanced players (Most of them are in purepubs, as yourself) staff could make a pub similar to ?go elim, where you need at least 36 hours of usage. Why not make a public where you need to have at least 500 hours (It may be high, but players would also know what they are doing).
      This may solve the following problems:
      1) Teamkilling (The players would have an idea of how to do shots)
      2) Aliases (I see quite a bit of players going onto aliases and talking trash/teamkilling then leaving before a staffmember can see it happening)
      3) More competitive


      Give me your opinion, i guess
      1:Hydride> who we play next week
      1:ReNdErED> Pandora
      1:ReNdErED> gulp
      1:ReNdErED> if i see Ease im shiftin across map

      1:Hydride> best feeling EVER
      1:Hydride> its like if you get sacked and when the pain goes away feeling x 999999999999999999999999
      1:cranium> uve obviously never fucked a plastic bag filled with jelly inbetween the couch cushions
      1:menelvagor> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL
      1:cranium> talk about a feeling

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      • #4
        Pub with usage?

        Originally posted by Kuukunen
        There's a little problem with pure pubs: they're usually full. I don't want to get in the middle of levterrs, so if I want to go to a pub, it's lots of "esc+a+esc+esc+a+esc+esc+a...". So are the arenas really that popular? Should there be more pure pub bots? (Next one could be RoboDog)
        I agree, but maybe for more advanced players (Most of them are in purepubs, as yourself) staff could make a pub similar to ?go elim, where you need at least 36 hours of usage. Why not make a public where you need to have at least 500 hours (It may be high, but players would also know what they are doing).
        This may solve the following problems:
        1) Teamkilling (The players would have an idea of how to do shots)
        2) Aliases (I see quite a bit of players going onto aliases and talking trash/teamkilling then leaving before a staffmember can see it happening)
        3) More competitive


        Give me your opinion, i guess
        1:Hydride> who we play next week
        1:ReNdErED> Pandora
        1:ReNdErED> gulp
        1:ReNdErED> if i see Ease im shiftin across map

        1:Hydride> best feeling EVER
        1:Hydride> its like if you get sacked and when the pain goes away feeling x 999999999999999999999999
        1:cranium> uve obviously never fucked a plastic bag filled with jelly inbetween the couch cushions
        1:menelvagor> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFL
        1:cranium> talk about a feeling

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        • #5
          hmm that was weird. hydride's first post shows up with all his tags showing in regular text.

          i think the bot changing into purepub mode is a good idea (and the name ^^)

          but i dont think we need more welcome messages teaching us how to do stuff. i wouldnt assume all pubbers to be new.
          thread killer

          Also who changed to pw to Squadless, how am I supposed to fly the banner of sucking at the game

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          • #6
            is there some way to force players that spec for too long in purepubs to go to some other pub? or hell, just disconnect them? spec or watch your chats somewhere that people aren't trying to get into.

            staff: perhaps the popularity of purepub should be taken as a hint as to what the most pub players want. (no levs, dammit)

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            • #7
              Remove the retarded cloaker.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hydride
                I agree, but maybe for more advanced players (Most of them are in purepubs, as yourself) staff could make a pub similar to ?go elim, where you need at least 36 hours of usage. Why not make a public where you need to have at least 500 hours (It may be high, but players would also know what they are doing).
                This may solve the following problems:
                1) Teamkilling (The players would have an idea of how to do shots)
                2) Aliases (I see quite a bit of players going onto aliases and talking trash/teamkilling then leaving before a staffmember can see it happening)
                3) More competitive


                Give me your opinion, i guess
                you can't alter 1 pub without affecting the rest
                Originally posted by Diakka
                Lets stop being lil bitches

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                • #9
                  Wrong, they can keep piling a bunch of useless bots in until only four human players can actually get in the arena. That seems to be the direction they're heading anyway.
                  Originally posted by Tone
                  It is now time for the energy shift of the 7th root race to manifest on the 3D physical plane and uplift us back to 5D.
                  Originally posted by the_paul
                  Gargle battery acid fuckface
                  Originally posted by Material Girl
                  I tried downloading a soundcard

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                  • #10
                    If you recall, the only thing that distinguishes purepub from regular is the disabling of levis. So the answer has been staring at upper staff in the face for a long time. Frankly I don't know what the delay is all about. Perhaps indecision about how to change the levi settings. Can't be for lack of ideas about it because we've had a plethora of threads on the subject with many a good idea suggested in them.
                    So there wouldn't be any kind of problem getting into a purepub zone when they are all "pure" in a less than definate sense of the word.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hydride
                      I agree, but maybe for more advanced players (Most of them are in purepubs, as yourself) staff could make a pub similar to ?go elim, where you need at least 36 hours of usage. Why not make a public where you need to have at least 500 hours (It may be high, but players would also know what they are doing).
                      Well, we already have ?go base, where most advanced players go to play basing. The idea was not to create another. Idea was to have a place for newbies to base.
                      Originally posted by Edify
                      but i dont think we need more welcome messages teaching us how to do stuff. i wouldnt assume all pubbers to be new.
                      I talked to someone about this and he said some people don't even know how to change pubs, so that's why I suggested it.
                      Originally posted by Pure Hatred
                      Wrong, they can keep piling a bunch of useless bots in until only four human players can actually get in the arena. That seems to be the direction they're heading anyway.
                      Or they can put all the things in one bot. I really have no idea why they're using two bots in the first pubs anyways.
                      Originally posted by Morh
                      Remove the retarded cloaker.
                      Agreed, but I wanted to focus on one thing at a time.
                      Originally posted by Rudy
                      If you recall, the only thing that distinguishes purepub from regular is the disabling of levis. So the answer has been staring at upper staff in the face for a long time. Frankly I don't know what the delay is all about. Perhaps indecision about how to change the levi settings. Can't be for lack of ideas about it because we've had a plethora of threads on the subject with many a good idea suggested in them.
                      So there wouldn't be any kind of problem getting into a purepub zone when they are all "pure" in a less than definate sense of the word.
                      It might be that they are afraid of big changes. And as stupid as it is, there are many people who really do want to keep levs. They might not be in the forums, but it's those that prevent staff from changing levs. So it has to be done slowly. They have to be noticing that the pure pubs are a lot more popular than the regular pubs. So maybe they keep adding pure pub bots, until one day they realize "gdammit, we got no regular pubs left, and apart from few idiots, everyone's happy, maybe we should do something about the lev after all"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Morh
                        Remove the retarded cloaker.
                        I agree

                        Originally posted by suxxor
                        is there some way to force players that spec for too long in purepubs to go to some other pub? or hell, just disconnect them? spec or watch your chats somewhere that people aren't trying to get into.
                        Mods have disconnected me many times when I've been sitting in spec in purepub arena and not answering to them.
                        megaman89> tsunami taught me that 1 shouldnt have used it
                        L K> taught u what?
                        megaman89> how to suck

                        9:WiL> im gonna with my league \o/
                        9:Graner <ZH>> you mean win?
                        9:WiL> being on plade i forgot how to spell it

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                        • #13
                          levs are fun to light up the board with kills.
                          i wouldn't remove the levi from all pubs persay..
                          thread killer

                          Also who changed to pw to Squadless, how am I supposed to fly the banner of sucking at the game

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                          • #14
                            Get it to work staff, sounds good to me
                            Erathia> IF YOU SPIDERS CONTINUE CAMPING I WILL BAN YOU AND CALL IT RACISM

                            SeRtIfi> What's the point of going out with friends everyday just to hang out when I meet them in school and sometimes on weekends anyways, if I can play in SubSpace with them?

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                            • #15
                              make the lev into a different kind of ship more akin to basing for purepubs and keep the old settings for normal pubs. dont know if thats possible.

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