designing subarenas

[Jerome Scuggs]

If PriitK goes through with his promise (or was it DoCk>?) to switch over to ASSS when it's stable, then I'm sure arena designers could be granted control over their map (seeing as you can create new positions and grant them specified powers etc)

[Kuukunen]

You are allowed one scorereset everyday in pub, so i'm sure they'll do a scorereset for the players

I meant that if some squad is having 50 duels in their arena, would the staffers happily come to scorereset them in the beginning of each of them?

[Merkaba]

Well my assumption was correct, if you give a regular player some mod command access, it would allow them too much power.

The current SS server doesn't have these features, so the only way you could do this is have some ArenaBot to come to your arena and scorereset.

:ArenaBot:!scorereset

comes and recycles arena, and also have a list of arenas that this ArenaBot couldn't scorereset, so no one would abuse it.

Yeah, I wouldn't do help calls to mods just so they can scorereset; just a big waste of their time.

Only solution for now is for everyone to leave the arena and come back.

[D1st0rt]

The as³ staff system is structured so that every command and capability can be hand selected per group, which will allow for this and many other possibilities if the zone administration is willing.

[RoDNeY]

ASSS (A Small Subspace Server) is pretty Crazy in my opinion i think its great, even thought i know nothing about it

[Nickname]

an idea, couldn't a bot be made for the said arena, and the bot could be programmed to accept commands from a list of people who are not staff?

(with limited powers)

[duel pasta]

an idea, couldn't a bot be made for the said arena, and the bot could be programmed to accept commands from a list of people who are not staff?

(with limited powers)

that's not a good idea people will abuse it and people will make a stupid map just to have 'powers' in their arena. Just deal with the fact that not everybody has powers or ever will get powers.

[Anduril.]

So the only way to do this would be... a bot! Bot that comes to the arena when asked, scoreresets and disappears again would do it.

Uhoh .. even more bots coming up huh .. :fear:

[Kolar]

ASSS will never be able to support our population, or even 50 people at one time. The like the idea someone put up a while back about having a few Bots work for squads and players with credits you can buy online, hosting events you want and maybe just advertising and keeping their squad arena open basicly anything they want. Maybe even offer it to winners of TWL as a reward also.

Save for a few of them the bots in TW are needed to run vital things. There's less then 30 of them anyways, maybe 1/3 or less of that are high demand/online all the time.

[D1st0rt]

Kolar, you should do more research before you make broad generalizations like that outside your area of expertise.

[Kyace]

Kolar, you should do more research before you make broad generalizations like that outside your area of expertise.

Since you know more about as^3 than most in TW, what is the current population high for a server running it?

Information is the best way to fight ignorance, not blame.

[Edify]

the superzone67 arena has the owner labelled as: >Dark_grim<

however, dark_grim found out that it's impossible to log-on with that name using. so...yeah.

[D1st0rt]

Considering that a population in the mid 30s was supported a year ago (August '04) and considerable advances have been made, including one that grelminar believes to have solved the reliable sync bug known as "lag comas" altogether. I am completely confident that ASSS can support 50 people right now, and to say that it will never be able to support Trench in my opinion is a little close-minded.

I also have a small, remotely possible theory that trench might not be running on a single instance of subgame due to some functions that were discovered to allegedly reroute players to another ip. While there is no substantial proof that this is ever used anywhere, we had a discussion a while ago on the mgb forums regarding the undocumented *sendto command for subgame that is believed to be a manual frontend for the function.

I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, I just think there is widespread prejudice against ASSS that is somewhat outdated and unneccessary. ASSS should be embraced, not shunned.

[Kolar]

Kolar, you should do more research before you make broad generalizations like that outside your area of expertise.

Actually that came from people in the SS comunity, you're right i'm not a programmer but I've talked with the people behind ASSS. For one they don't like windows and if it were up to them they'd close off SSC zones to it. The great big final plan here is to close off Subspace to windows systems and make their own Linux primary biller thus fragmenting Continuum and destroying the game, have fun. Besides all the scheming and self important crap going on with this: going from 30 to 50 in 1 year seems to be a very small leap forward to me. I don't think TW's Sysops would use it because of that fact, ever if in 5 years it does support 100 or 200 people.

Prove me wrong and get them to show me some projections and stablity with the actual project. Besides that these people have nothing good planned Continuum.

[D1st0rt]

going from 30 to 50 in 1 year seems to be a very small leap forward to me

I think you misinterpreted what I said about that. I don't mean that after a year it can only support 50 people, I was just using the number you provided. What I was trying to illustrate is that there have been large leaps made while only a small leap as you said would be required to support 50 people. I would also say that ASSS is probably about as stable as PowerBot - very if you know what you're doing.

The great big final plan here is to close off Subspace to windows systems

It runs on windows as well, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. There are a lot of people that don't like windows, and right now they are forced to use it. Giving people an option of what OS to use will fragment continuum? I think you're maybe blowing this a little out of proportion?

Besides that these people have nothing good planned Continuum.

What?! How can you be so cold to people working so hard for the community? You do realize PriitK has effectively sanctioned the project by helping to implement continuum encryption support for it, right? If Priit himself had released his client earlier, before it was done, would you have said the same thing? I don't understand why you have this hostility towards ASSS, it is a very nice piece of software. There's no conspiracy as you seem to insinuate, just new possibilities. Please don't burn me at the stake for staying open to the future.

Prove me wrong and get them to show me some projections and stablity with the actual project.

I would love to run a load test on ASSS to see how many it can support at this time, but unfortunately it has been badmouthed so much that we can't scrounge up enough people to try.