i was forced to remove my banner

[arrogance]

"Violated" by not being allowed to wear a swastika banner. That's hilarious. And if you honestly didn't realize it was a swastika, you're an idiot. Those of you who feel "violated" should wake up and go spend all your time fighting an issue that actually matters. Knowing you were responsible for obtaining the right to wear a swastika as your tiny little bmp banner in an online spaceship game isn't going to provide you much comfort when you're lying on your deathbed.

[stark]

right now, it's all in principles... i'm not anti-semitic and i'm not a nazi.... it's the fact that a swastika only represents bad when you look at it in that way. if the holocaust never happened, none of you would care. everyone makes mistakes, some larger than others, but it's in the past and there's nothing anyone can do about that now.... perhaps its time to bring back the real meaning to the swastika. even if it's staff's descretion, they're not always right.

[Mattey]

I am also anti-semantic.

[Volcs]

know what's great? Goddess couldn't ban you anyways, she could get someone else to.. but she doesn't have bang...

Originally posted by Kid Kaos
Read my signature. Anyways, goddess <er> decided to silence me using her er powers just because I said the word slit....

Now that you know how stupid a bitch she really is, you should not be surprised when she gives you a moderator warning before even talking to you.

lol.. i wonder... if goddess weren't female and a cyber-whore how long ago would she have been axed?

[stark]

Originally posted by Volcs

lol.. i wonder... if goddess weren't female and a cyber-whore how long ago would she have been axed?

<3 volcs

[Speaker Of Trench]

"The Swastika" is the oldest cross and emblem in the world. It forms a combination of four "L's" standing for Luck, Light, Love and Life. It has been found in ancient Rome, excavations in Grecian cities, on Buddhist idols, on Chinese coins dated 315 B.C., and our own Southwest Indians use it as an amulet.

It is claimed that the Mound Builders and Cliff Dwellers of Mexico, Central America consider "The Swastika" a charm to drive away evil and bring good luck, long life and prosperity to the possessor.

It should be noted that this text is not entirely accurate: The Mound Builders inhabited the Ohio River Valley and the Cliff Dwellers lived in the Southwestern United States; however, both did use the swastika, as did the Mayas of Mexico. Furthermore, although the swastika may look like four "L's" to one who uses the Roman alphabet, in Greek it forms four Gammas ("G's"), in Hebrew it can be seen as four Daleths ("D's"), and among the non-literate people of North America, it corresponded to no letters at all. Thus the ascription of Luck, Light, Love, and Life to the amulet is simply an English mnemonic, although it is prettily reinforced on this card by images of a horseshoe (luck), the rising Sun (light), twin hearts (love), and Earth (life). Finally, not mentioned in the text is the swastika's use as the specific emblem of Ganesha, the Hindu god of good luck, who is also represented as an elephant.

So just because some asshole in germany takes a symbol that means love, life, luck, light and makes into a form of anti-semi doesn't mean that is the way it always means. So the staff needs to get over there ignorence and incoherence of the subject and be more open minded. Work on it.

[Nitti]

Hmm... now, i know i saw this exact same post/argument/reply/concensus somewhere before...

by the way, all staffers, all forum moderators, the fact of the matter is that the swastika was actually legalized. Therefore, if Goddess was actually a good staffer, he/she/it/none of the above, would know that. WHICH, in turn means that GOddess is an incompetent staff member who is either

a) disregarding the rules
b) not paying attention to the rules
c) does not know how to interpret the rules
d) abusing power

don't all of these, probably not C, call for Goddess to be axed from staff?? hrm, that's all i have to say..

[Nitti]

But, I have no problem with Goddess...

and, machine:

get a life. Everyone, go back and just look at the topics that he's posted about here and at the trench staff suggestion forum.. all he does is whine about staff.

You should get run over by a reindeer coming home from your grandma's... err... well, you're lucky that it's not christmas eve anymore but you should just get run over anyway.

~Get a life and stop whining you little children

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Originally posted by Volcs
lol.. i wonder... if goddess weren't female and a cyber-whore how long ago would she have been axed?

Go figure, it's a post from Volcs complaining about Goddess. Haven't seen this before. Grow up and move on.

Originally posted by Speaker of Trench
(A whole bunch of crap.)

Recycled, recycled, recycled. It's all been said before. We all realize that there have been multiple definitions for the swastika throughout history. You can save the Encyclopedia Britannica definition for your 4th grader.

Originally posted by Nitti
by the way, all staffers, all forum moderators, the fact of the matter is that the swastika was actually legalized.

Actually, it's illegal to have in the game. This point has been driven home MULTIPLE TIMES. Nitti, you know we're down, but you should check the rules before trying to make a point.

THAT BEING SAID, THIS WHOLE THREAD IS MISSING A FEW CHROMOSOMES. God damn it, people, it's the rules. Take two steps back from the computer, take four deep breaths, punch yourself in the face for being retarded, and MOVE ON. CASE CLOSED. MATLOCK HAS LEFT THE BUILDING.

[Ilya]

http://forums.trenchwars.org/forum/s...annux+swastika

[Verthanthi]

Originally posted by ConcreteSchlyrd
CASE CLOSED.

Can we get a THREAD CLOSED?

[Material Girl]

hard to forget

Originally posted by Machine of God


I BET NOBODY IS ACTUALLY OFFENDED BY SEEING A SWASTICA and if they are then that is pretty sad because you should forget about what happened 50 years ago and relax.

I was offended.

Have you the slightest idea of what took place in Germany, Austria, Poland and the Netherlands, MOG? Death camps, MOG, where ordinary people like you and I were taken with uncompromising force and tourtured, starved to death, used for LIVE experiments... and many other gruesome crimes that some of you apparently think of as being glamourous. We can not even begin to imagine the horrors those people saw in their last days. TW staff is absolutely right-on in banning the swastika... it's a matter of human decency and I am proud of TW staff for their recognition of this matter.

Your comment is one of the stupidest I've ever seen on these forums, MOG. Your ignorance is encyclopedic! Next time you're thinking of masquerading as an ambassador to Canada, MOG, you should remember that many of our freedom fighters died while fighting the Gestapo. Rather than disgrace the principles of our country's historical policy, you might want to thank GOD that the third reich didn't make it to North America.

[stark]

i DO know what happend. I've read "Night" by Elie Wiesel and I've studied the Holocaus. What you people cease to realize is that it wasn't just the Jews in the Holocaust. Armenians, Cambodians, Rwandians, Ukrainians... What? no one cares about them, do they? The Holocaust may have had more Casualties.. But, think of September 11th... less than 3,000 died, and how many Americans were hurt and mad at that. Now, lets say someone, somehow managed to get a little plane crashign into a building to fit on a banner... Most Americans would be offended, correct? Now think, Genocides in the past, not just the Holocaust have hade MANY more casualties than that. We all know what the Swastica use and was supposed to represent... Unfortunatly, the Holocaust turned that sign of life and love into hatred and death... But, what about the many others that have died from anything or anyone besides people from the Holocaust. Why is the Swastika pointed out of the crowd of many, may genocides that have occured from the past? Do these other events not matter? Do these other people, this great deal of people not matter? wah wah wah... Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust... Swastika, Swastika, Swastika.... So, no one else killed for no reason matters? I do not support the acts made in the past, but I also do not support the particular banishment of the Swastika, when so many banners can have the same effect, and yet not be banned or bannible. Now, if you think "Fine.. they ALL should be bannible" then, they ALL should. American flag = bannible. American's have killed there share of innocents, too, you know.... But, oh, just because that number isn't as much as the Holocaust, it doesn't FUCKING MATTER now does it? every mother fucking life matters, you only fucking live once. There's more that can be offence... and staff don't fucking know all... staff descretion? why don't one of the staff members lose a loved one to the member of the Taliban, see someone with a Taliban flag and not be offended. What? It's one person... not a large quintity, it doesn't matter according to you people.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

This is what we call a cyclical argument.

You're not saying anything new--as IlyaZ pointed out above, it's all been said before... LOTS of times. The fact of the matter is that it's a bannable offense now. Learn to deal with it.

[stark]

just because we've been over it before, does that make it currently right? before 'blacks' were free in america, many times has it been brought up before to free them (abolitionists, north) and yet, it continued. is slavery right? hell no. it can be said a million times over, and nothing may not be done... it doesn't make it right. and although it is a bannable offence now, it either shouldn't be, or way more banners should be... and i'm gonna stick to what i beleive in.