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[Sufficient]

LTs have an extreme amount of patience. I just wanted to say that I don't think a higher attach bounty will do much to deter LTing. I still dunno what the purpose of the changes are. Are we trying to lessen the LTing so all the pubs can be the same (include levs)? Or are we attempting to fully eliminate LTing? And if you are indeed trying to simply lessen the amt of LTing going on, then aren't you crippling and already crippled ship (lev)?

Why aren't we attacking the problem with the objective of making the lev into a basing ship? Any map changes you make won't do any good imo bc LTs will continue to LT regardless of higher bounty attaches or special maps with shielded tiles. LTs will continue to wallbomb the hell outta the walls, port around, warp around, and fire at predecided locations far away from danger.

[Chao.]

far away from danger.

I don't think so. =)

[Izor]

I love how you people say that I have had nothing constructive to add to this thread, then say the same things I do. Such as 'The asteroid ring is too small' and 'the map just plain looks ugly'

And yes, I am trying to protect dueling from a total assfuck like that new pub gives it. Name me one place where you can have a decent duel there? Without getting spawned, that is. All the subarenas dont matter if people wont catch onto it in pub.

I think that map would be a lot better if:

1) the asteroid ring was expanded, and the base was pushed up, allowing for a large open area below the courtyard, and 2 more safeties

2) the arms were redrawn by someone that can make them look less hideous

lol, theres some other map in altbase now. I like the bottom half but the top half looks like you'll have a hard time getting a good basing game going

[Fluffz]

some criticso n this new map

1st the 5 entrances will make it too easy for LTs to hit and run
2nd the only 2 LT shot that this map stops is the side shot at base and the side shot from the lower ear. that leaves 200 levi shots open.
3rd the smaller the map the higher the xfers
4th in base levis and other ships will be very very hard to kill with this shield
5th and most important the wall in spawn has to get back along with the lowest trench entrance. currently i wouldnt even bother to LT because i could shoot at players right out of spawn
6th why fix what is not broken
7th spawn is too small, thats gona be a spawnfest. granted, that will make it a lil harder to reach 20 bty
8th the hole at j9 and on the other side has to go. even if this hole is ok for other ships it is not ok for LTs. the roof holes have to go. destoys other ships shots buy hey, its for the greater plan.
9th the save has to move
10th it is too easy to get into lower base
11th the closer the asteroid belt and the base walls are the easier it will get for LTs to shoot their hunters. especiallaly at the base ears and at the new lower arms it is too small

but i think u might suceed at stopping the domination of LTs but at what price. if you plug every hole and shield every wall what will be left...

[Sufficient]

I don't think so. =)

Fine maybe I exaggerated =).

[Izor]

11th the closer the asteroid belt and the base walls are the easier it will get for

touche

[Chao.]

lol, theres some other map in altbase now. I like the bottom half but the top half looks like you'll have a hard time getting a good basing game going

It's altpub, not altbase.
The safes have been moved and there's a bit of an area for people to duel around them if they so wish, it's up in ?go pubshield2 in dev.

[Hakaku]

I like altpub, cause I broke it. It's also an improvement for the levi to be weakened. Anyway, I'd like to see a lot more done on how the tiles don't match up with eachother, how the arms look sloppy, and how the circles look like deformed squares.

[Izor]

It's altpub, not altbase.

lollll stupid me

[Zerzera]

btw, comparing 8v8 to 4v4 is the first step of newbiness in my opinion. dueling is 5v5 as simple as that

That's why TWDD games are about 99% 5v5 games.

But this thread showed us all how to save TW, remove all the ships but warbird, change the pubmap with the elim-map and make basing only a sub-arena. Problem solved.

[Izor]

nah cause when you get bored of playing one thing you cant go do another that way

[Richard Creager]

nah dueling is all that matters, how could you get bored of it?

[Vehicle]

Originally posted by Troll King

Plus it could mean effectively lowering the damage radius effect on the flag room by placing ground zero a few tiles away from the wall, creating something like a damage buffer.

I agree with TK, make a fucking buffer, 5-7 tiles wide around the flagroom. Let players get in from lower base. Then it's up to the players in lower to watch out for it. Hell block it with doors if you want.

[Izor]

lol this is pointless now. Because I want there to be a 50/50 balance like there is currently people are making it seem like I want the map to be ?go deathmatch, and that I said people wont get bored of dueling and want to play something else. I've made my point here, and what is done with it is up to the people making decisions, so I'm not holding my breath here. Ultimately the people who suffer from bad decision making in this case are the people who are making them as well as the whole zone. I pretty much know I'm going to get ignored anyway, because you're all over-zealous to make base the only thing that appeals to people so that you have someone to play with, but you also arent looking at the big picture

[Golden_Aim]

when you get warped to base if you have chosed it with !warp command, can we have a setting that places all the players on the freq to their "ear", just warping the randomly in base is stupid.