Competing with WoW

[H.M.S. Stargazer]

Holy shit, its 141am here and im watching teletoon. I just saw two commercials. Mr. T. and William shatner.... WILLIAM SHATNER! doing plugs for WoW.....

TW! WE need to do something!

[Money]

lmao i saw that the other day i was like omg....

[Rudy]

TW! WE need to do something!

SM closed due to aids.

[Exalt]

i fail to see how we are competing... I dont like WoW, i still like subspace

completely different games, draw completely different crowds, and people either love it or hate it for both games.

besides like... all of pallies, i fail to see who really left us for WoW anyway

[Ephemeral]

You can not compete unless the SS product has a future. It is currently someone's sandbox, offered for free. Mr Arrogant epitomizes this fact. WoW has a cash machine feeding it and it's future product development.

Although it is true that new players can be attracted to this game, holding them here is virtually impossible if the game has no future roadmap.

[Doc Flabby]

Although it is true that new players can be attracted to this game, holding them here is virtually impossible if the game has no future roadmap.

I have my own personal community based project on ensuring SubSpace's future. Whether it will be a sucess remains to be seen, don't expect anything substancial untill next christmas. I need to learn alot and very quickly. If I get is right, SS will become much more than it is today (Thats a big IF). SubSpace 1.5 (Continuum) will still around for a couple of years in its current form, but now it the time to start developing the sequel, development takes time.

[Colonel]

i fail to see who really left us for WoW anyway

Demonfaze and Fireballz

[gdugwyler]

Yeah, I'll agree it caters to a different audience. To play WoW you must have three prerequisites:

- You must immensely enjoy collecting useless things. This comprises the set of all viewers of the Home Shopping Network.

- You must consider hitting numbers and making the same calculation over and over again to be a "game." This set of individuals is equal to the set of all accountants.

- You must imagine yourself to be "exploring" when you enter the exact same cave design which you've already seen in 26 other places. This set is limited to the set of all people who are idiots.

The most fascinating part of this analysis? The intersection of these three sets comprises the largest MMOG playerbase ever to exist.

[Ephemeral]

I have my own personal community based project on ensuring SubSpace's future. Whether it will be a sucess remains to be seen, don't expect anything substancial untill next christmas. I need to learn alot and very quickly. If I get is right, SS will become much more than it is today (Thats a big IF). SubSpace 1.5 (Continuum) will still around for a couple of years in its current form, but now it the time to start developing the sequel, development takes time.

As someone who owns a technology company that brings hardware and software products to market, I am aware of what it takes to make that happen.

Do you have the legal intellectual property rights to bring a new version to market? How is the server bandwidth issue going to be addressed?

[Noah]

When you put stuff like that, everything sucks, gdug.

FPS games is the same with the exception that the pixels and weapon effects looks differently from game to game, right?

With thinking like this, you can call everything useless and boring.

Shooting the same set of spaceships over and over with different sets of bullets is for those too stupid to see how mindlessly repetetive it is.

Guess what game I did just now.

[Doc Flabby]

Do you have the legal intellectual property rights to bring a new version to market? How is the server bandwidth issue going to be addressed?

The registered trademark SubSpace expired in 2005. Thus resolving that legality. This version is not going to use any existing code. The only issue would be using media (sounds/graphics) original to the game, as the game is going to use a custom 3D engine (and thus need new ship models anyway) this will not be a problem.

Server bandwidth is cheap nowdays. It costs significantly less than it used to. To put it in perpective, I can get 1000GB/month of bandwith for 20$ a month, my mobile phone bill is in the region of $60-80 each month.

[IceStorm]

william shatner was at my college the other day lol

[gdugwyler]

When you put stuff like that, everything sucks, gdug.

FPS games is the same with the exception that the pixels and weapon effects looks differently from game to game, right?

With thinking like this, you can call everything useless and boring.

Not really. I just don't see much appeal to WoW because what you spend the majority of the time doing -- killing mobs and collecting items -- isn't done in an entertaining way. It requires you to do almost nothing, has never once managed to get my blood pumping... initially I admit it's interesting, but then you realize it's largely just a very prettily-dressed exercise in the very tedious. It relies on the larger picture -- getting to level X, seeing such and such new area, getting the better mount so that travelling isn't so goddamn boring -- whereas Subspace is enjoyable on a minute level. Just flying around is often a pleasure. Where it's lacking is having any goal past killing some people and grabbing flags.

[Emaho]

Demonfaze and Fireballz

+whole pallies squad

[jeem]

Yeah, I'll agree it caters to a different audience. To play WoW you must have three prerequisites:

- You must immensely enjoy collecting useless things. This comprises the set of all viewers of the Home Shopping Network.

- You must consider hitting numbers and making the same calculation over and over again to be a "game." This set of individuals is equal to the set of all accountants.

- You must imagine yourself to be "exploring" when you enter the exact same cave design which you've already seen in 26 other places. This set is limited to the set of all people who are idiots.

The most fascinating part of this analysis? The intersection of these three sets comprises the largest MMOG playerbase ever to exist.

to enjoy distension:

- you must immensely enjoy getting raped by players who play it every day- not because they are better but because they have all the power-ups. this set is limited to those who have excellent patience from excessive amounts of waiting for women.

- you must consider hitting buttons and making the same calculation over and over again to be a "game." this set of individuals is equal to the set of future clerks and hotel cleaners.

- you must imagine yourself to be "exploring" intergallactic space when you enter the exact same map design every time you play. this set is limited to the set of all people who are idiots.

the most fascinating part of this analysis? it caters to exactly the same audience as wow but wow apparently has people that would pay to play it it is so fun to them.