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    A lot of ideas are being thrown out to increase the population of TW, and I've been accumulating some of my own ideas for a while, so just lemme know what you guys think, hell it might mean you get your own ideas..

    TWD - Multiple modes of play:
    I suggested one idea before a long time ago for TWDD, which was pretty much shot down, and for those of you that don't know, it was to introduce another mode, in which people would race for points instead of kill to 50...Although this may look like a bad idea now, it had the potential to give TWD a new dimension, another way of gaming, and as of recently, I came across another idea, inspired mainly from Dameon Angell.

    The plan was to have another game mode that players could choose from when challenging other TWD squads, basically setting up a 4/5-man lineup in TWD matches, but 1v1 gameplay, so essentially an automatically run UFC faceoff against squads. Same deaths, same time, etc.
    What's the point? Well, it would mean that players had to improve their 1v1 skills for squadmatches, putting ?go duel into more use as a practice arena for players. The mode would be more useful to top squads who are against each other, one squad may have great teamers, but how would they stand alone? Just think about it, it encourages competition at a different level.

    Elim/Baseelim Merge:
    I've seen a couple of people who have already favoured the idea, however I feel that maybe we can collect more opinions and see what we can do about it. Personally, I think the two arenas should be merged, here's why:

    - The arena would have a higher concentration of players, LOTS more javs and warbirds learning how to play both ships, meaning both warbird and javelin divisions become more active with more capable players who are confident after a lot of practice. The amount of warbird games to javelin games would be unbalanced, this is why the bot COULD be edited to accommodate an EVEN number (Possibly alternating) of warbird:javelin games, meaning that there would be less voting, because the distribution of games would be fair. For those who don't see my reasoning, think about this, how many times have you been in tourny when voting for 2v2 javs and got 2v2 warbirds? (Or vice versa in my case)

    - Competition would increase drastically if we had a lot of jav players in elim, trying their absolute hardest to rip the warbirds apart and vice versa, so many more to kill, it would pretty much bring back elim.

    Killing ?go javs:
    Again, I've seen a lot of people who would favour the change, by introducing ?go javs you killed ?go baseelim, if the above idea of merging elims wouldn't work, at least kill ?go javs so that baseelim becomes more populated. ?go javs is pointless, and if you value barwarp so much, just put barwarp in baseelim or something...

    Continuum away from home:
    I was with a couple of friends once, the other week actually, and I started telling them about what Continuum was, and to my surprise, one of my friends actually knew what on earth I was talking about.
    Me: "You guys ever played Continuum?"
    Friend: "Ohhh that one with the little spaceships!! Yeah that was awesome, they had that in school!"

    It made me think, that a school would have had Continuum sitting in their network, and kids would log on and play, kill each other, whatever, but it would bring a lot more players. If something like this happened, and Continuum is really as addictive as we say it is, then spreading Continuum would be easy, almost viral. Don't look at me for ideas as to how such a thing would ever come into effect, but it would be damn good if it did, the only reason I have said this is because I don't think it's actually that absurd. You may not agree with me though.



    Don't think these ideas are completely 100% stable, hell, some of these are only a starting point for things that could be big... they're ALL subject to change, and if you can think of ways of improving on them let us know, post here, let me know what you think and why you think it, otherwise there's no point in replying.

    Thanks for reading.

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    I agree completely on the merging of elim and belim. Killing go javs maybe. The TWDD mode you suggested is horrible, better may be thought of though ike king of the hill or VIP or CTF ETC ETC
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    • #3
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Galaxy Turbo View Post

        TWD - Multiple modes of play:
        I suggested one idea before a long time ago for TWDD, which was pretty much shot down, and for those of you that don't know, it was to introduce another mode, in which people would race for points instead of kill to 50...Although this may look like a bad idea now
        And it still is, a kill-race in twdd is the worst possible idea ever. staying alive and killing out people on high deaths is the key to a being a good player and a good squad.

        Originally posted by galaxy turbo
        The plan was to have another game mode that players could choose from when challenging other TWD squads, basically setting up a 4/5-man lineup in TWD matches, but 1v1 gameplay, so essentially an automatically run UFC faceoff against squads. Same deaths, same time, etc.
        this sounds like a good idea, 1v1 skill has been neglected for years already and it would be nice to bring it back. the amount of deaths for each duel could be a problem though, the game could take alot longer than expected if they have 5 to 10 deaths.
        Originally posted by galaxy turbo
        Elim/Baseelim Merge:
        Personally, I think the two arenas should be merged
        yes, and the number of games should be the same for each ship, otherwise it will just be a spam of javelins.

        Originally posted by galaxy turbo
        Killing ?go javs:
        Again, I've seen a lot of people who would favour the change, by introducing ?go javs you killed ?go baseelim, if the above idea of merging elims wouldn't work, at least kill ?go javs so that baseelim becomes more populated. ?go javs is pointless, and if you value barwarp so much, just put barwarp in baseelim or something...
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        • #5
          ?go javs was around long before baseelim, but I guess you wouldn't know that.
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          • #6
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            I like go javs it gives me an arena to play everyone, if the elims are combined i think doing wbs/javs every other round would be a fair compramise. I dont really like the 1 vs 1 but if u had an option of doing 3 vs 3 twd that would be cool.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by End View Post
              I agree completely on the merging of elim and belim. Killing go javs maybe. The TWDD mode you suggested is horrible, better may be thought of though ike king of the hill or VIP or CTF ETC ETC
              Yeah, I wasn't suggesting for the TWDD mode to be placed, but I mean, it just makes room for other things if you apply the concept, doesn't have to be that particular game.

              Originally posted by Cylor
              ?go javs was around long before baseelim, but I guess you wouldn't know that.
              I'm not sure that makes much difference, you just spread the jav population by making more arenas so why not concentrate them into one? If Trench Wars' population actually increased, then by all means bring ?go javs back, but at the minute I think it's causing problems with baseelim inactivity, and since a lot of players now favour baseelim, why would you get rid of that arena instead? Just a thought.

              Originally posted by NoLimitSoldier
              I like go javs it gives me an arena to play everyone, if the elims are combined i think doing wbs/javs every other round would be a fair compramise. I dont really like the 1 vs 1 but if u had an option of doing 3 vs 3 twd that would be cool.
              I'm not sure that would be well integrated with the systems we have in place now. I mean, if we had leagues for 5v5, 4v4, 3v3, 2v2, and 1v1, it would be a hell of a job to set automatic things like that. If you want games with 3v3 and under, I think you could just spec after you !add 4 people heh.

              Although you could do the same with 1v1, I suggested it to be all automatic, so that lineups are set from the beginning, and if a player sucks, someone else who doesn't already belong in the set lineup can be subbed in and ready to fire it up.
              The main advantage of the 1v1 would be populating ?go duel for practice, the others would be a hassle I think mate. =)
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              • #8
                Absolutely not. Jav players play in baseelim, WB players play in elim. Can't get enough people in baseelim? Too bad. Elim is decently active and the WB players enjoy playing their own ship in that arena--period.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by death row View Post
                  Absolutely not. Jav players play in baseelim, WB players play in elim. Can't get enough people in baseelim? Too bad. Elim is decently active and the WB players enjoy playing their own ship in that arena--period.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by death row View Post
                    Absolutely not. Jav players play in baseelim, WB players play in elim. Can't get enough people in baseelim? Too bad. Elim is decently active and the WB players enjoy playing their own ship in that arena--period.
                    I'm not even a jav, I am a 100% warbird that plays elim a hundred more times than baseelim, yet I'm even willing to make such a sacrifice. If it means repopulating the game I think it would be worthwhile. Split the arenas if the population increases, then both would be active then.
                    What do you think of the compromise in games idea? I think you should elaborate a bit more, and come across a little less close-minded man. =)
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Galaxy Turbo View Post
                      I'm not even a jav, I am a 100% warbird that plays elim a hundred more times than baseelim, yet I'm even willing to make such a sacrifice. If it means repopulating the game I think it would be worthwhile. Split the arenas if the population increases, then both would be active then.
                      What do you think of the compromise in games idea? I think you should elaborate a bit more, and come across a little less close-minded man. =)
                      You're assuming that will increase activity. For all we know, a bunch of pissed off WB's will just not participate when javs continue to get voted. I know in ?go tourny, when ppl keep voting for javs, I'll leave the arena, along with other ppl that voted for wb's.

                      Whether you think I'm being "close-minded" or not, isn't my problem. I just think it's a bad idea, and that's my opinion.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by megaman89 View Post
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by death row View Post
                          You're assuming that will increase activity. For all we know, a bunch of pissed off WB's will just not participate when javs continue to get voted. I know in ?go tourny, when ppl keep voting for javs, I'll leave the arena, along with other ppl that voted for wb's.

                          Whether you think I'm being "close-minded" or not, isn't my problem. I just think it's a bad idea, and that's my opinion.
                          What you said is fair, because I too get annoyed when javs are overvoted...I think that's because there are more places for javs to go (javs, baseelim, javduel) than warbirds do, that might kinda piss warbirds off. So, maybe testing a more even system in ?go tourny before making an elim merger would be a better thing to do, just on a small scale, and by just tweaking the system a little bit we can get an indication of how things will go. I mean it'd just be a lot more fair than spamming jav votes. If this elim merger was to go through, I would have to suggest a possible introduction for ?go warbirds (Or something similar if that arena is unwanted).

                          I don't think you are close-minded I think you gave that kind of vibe though, I take it back now and I respect your opinion.
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                          • #14
                            I would only merge the belim/elim arenas if the rounds were like this:

                            Elim To 10 (Warbird)
                            2nd Round
                            Elim To 10 (Javelin)
                            3rd Round
                            Elim to 5 ( Warbird)
                            4th Round
                            Elim To 5 (Javelin)
                            That way each player can play there ship without having to be out numbered by majority voting. Another thing is after four rounds in can be a random round (levi , race, etc) Thats the only way I'll be in favor of Belim/Elim mergeing because when I go to tourny the majority always votes for javelin and the warbirds get mad at that... this would be the simpliest idea to keep balance between javelin/warbird in Elim or even tourny.

                            I hope you get the idea of what I'm saying. Another thing, I think I read someone saying that the staff cant merge the elims anyways because Robo Ref is controlled by PriitK..Or we can just create a new bot similar to Robo Ref .
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PrOnEsSim View Post
                              I would only merge the belim/elim arenas if the rounds were like this:

                              Elim To 10 (Warbird)
                              2nd Round
                              Elim To 10 (Javelin)
                              3rd Round
                              Elim to 5 ( Warbird)
                              4th Round
                              Elim To 5 (Javelin)
                              That way each player can play there ship without having to be out numbered by majority voting. Another thing is after four rounds in can be a random round (levi , race, etc) Thats the only way I'll be in favor of Belim/Elim mergeing because when I go to tourny the majority always votes for javelin and the warbirds get mad at that... this would be the simpliest idea to keep balance between javelin/warbird in Elim or even tourny.

                              I hope you get the idea of what I'm saying. Another thing, I think I read someone saying that the staff cant merge the elims anyways because Robo Ref is controlled by PriitK..Or we can just create a new bot similar to Robo Ref .
                              Yeah I get what you're saying. A system like that is one I would also be in favour of, a fair rotation of ships, each miscellaneous ship comes every 5th elim. I would also say that people should be able to vote on the choice of random elims that are on offer just as they are now, except every 5th elim.

                              As for the Robo Ref issue, if it is controlled by PriitK, I don't think it is beyond TWDev to help work on a new bot, that runs on a slightly different system to what the current Robo Ref runs on, if the current Robo Ref can't be changed. As for the map, you could easily stick the baseelim section of the arena at the top, and keep the "classic" elim arena with the odd (yet excellent) elim trees.
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                              1: winipcfg> despite "lol"'s versatility, I don't think that'd be good in the situation

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