Elim 2.0 Discussion

[Static Burn]

Also please put a key on the website for what all the abbreviations mean for the different stats.

Just roll your mouse over the abbreviations to see what they mean

[HateTheFake]

yea whos idea was it to give x's cloak and stealth in elim?

[Van Jari]

The post refers to this site:
http://trenchwars.org/index.php?v=elim&x=5

I cant show my profile, cause when i click my name, i only get to a list of results showing "Van Jari" and "Van Jari <ZH>"

Same thing if u try show "Stars" profile, u get a list showing "Stars" and "Starside"

This prolly means that the site doesnt recognize the click as a link to a profile, but rather a "limiting search", which results that the shorter name can't be shown with the current system.

[DankNuggets]

last time i checked, wb races still weren't working correctly.

[Mr. 420]

A lot of things are still buggy with TWBot1 and elimbeta because there is no staff coder willing to work on it. milosh started it so apparently milosh has to finish it (whenever he decides to come back).

-Ranks don't update through the bot
-WB race doesn't work
-It starts out player "Unite" at 11:0 streak every elim he starts.
-Levi race to 25 is still an option.
-Sometimes a player not even in the game is recorded as in the game and the real winner loses because the bot thinks they're still in and gives them the win. (has happened with PWND that I've seen)
-The spawnkill (no count) thing isn't consistent
-The anti spawn warps aren't consistent
-There is no "Hider" detection and coording
-elim website does record games and some stats, but nothing in regards to rank

Elim is a staple of TW, it existed before leagues. Please fix it and get it working so you can eliminate the "elimbeta" and just have ELIM!

/rant

[Kolar]

Did Elimbeta offer anything special beyond the "free play" spot on the map?

Is there any reason to keep it and develop it over regular elim?

[Exalt]

Did Elimbeta offer anything special beyond the "free play" spot on the map?

Is there any reason to keep it and develop it over regular elim?

yes

RATING (which isn't fixed yet, mainly because milosh is dead or something)

STREAKS - Nice thing to have

EVENTBOT - the ability to RESPAWN and FIX eventbot instead of robobot, which is purely PriitK's, which his afk ass never logs on for that

if rating is fixed eventbot is so much better than robo in every category, we just need rating back... thats the problem... and roboref can't be touched because its PriitK's so there will be no improvements there, and once roboref dies it takes days if not weeks for it to be respawned, while eventbot can be respawned easy and fast

[DankNuggets]

yes

RATING (which isn't fixed yet, mainly because milosh is dead or something)

STREAKS - Nice thing to have

EVENTBOT - the ability to RESPAWN and FIX eventbot instead of robobot, which is purely PriitK's, which his afk ass never logs on for that

if rating is fixed eventbot is so much better than robo in every category, we just need rating back... thats the problem... and roboref can't be touched because its PriitK's so there will be no improvements there, and once roboref dies it takes days if not weeks for it to be respawned, while eventbot can be respawned easy and fast

a few other things too, like the anti-spawn warps in the beginning. most of the "new" things work to an extent, but few are completely bug-free yet.

i don't think it's the eventbot doing it, but it is another bot besides roboref that runs independently of roboqueen i think.

either way, there's no point in having a "beta" elim. Just remove the old one, and get this one fixed sometime soon, or keep it down until. I still see people in the elim arena, although there's ZERO point to being there.

As much as people seem to loathe the practice part at the top, I have seen people use it. Just not very much. I think a lot of times though, ppl spec after the game to do other shit or watch who wins. It's more for people who come in waiting for an elim, when there's 20 ppl all on 2 deaths...

[MetalKid]

I hope milosh comes back... I want to elim again...

[pascone]

its also depressing no one else can work on it, seemingly

[MetalKid]

I don't see why it can't record stats. I looked at the bot code. It should be recording the values just fine. Unless they just deleted that table, which is stupid...

[Refer]

I personally do not agree with the scores not being resetted. Personally during elims i stat watch for strategic reasons; and possibly to make it a bit for for myself to hunt certain players with good scores. Having scores permanently recorded negates this; just like in ?go javs. The fact that a bot already records your overall K/D and Wins/losses should remove the need to have the records permanent accumulated.

I do, however, agree with the idea of having a casual arena during the times an elimination is going on. However; I feel it could simply be solved by introducing the casual play mode during elim. The command of !play would ensure players enter when they're ready for the next elim; and thus remove the problem of having afk players in elim where their records could be affected and recorded.

Furthermore; personally I really disliked having levi elims. I think it should be removed altogether. It's a complete waste of time.

[Refer]

Also forgot to say. Many thanks for looking into improving the current elimination arenas; I personally really appreciate it. ?go elim used to be an arena where lots of good warbirds play competitively. The glory of winning and having a decent rank in elim have really gone downhill over the past few years.