Distension discussion

[DankNuggets]

Do different classes have different max energy/recharge for the same ship?

yes, i think so. i know the z class is higher than all the others as far as max nrg/chg. Different classes progress differently, but whether or not they all max out at the same level (just sooner or later) i don't know. But i do know that z class is supposed to have higher max than all the others.

[Peace_Maker]

I was wondering if warship would have more energy than z-class since it is built for high energy, low recharge.

[DankNuggets]

i can't tell you for 100% since i can't check the numbers, but i remember asking qan about it several times and he said Z class would have a higher maximum engergy and recharge than the other ships. I don't remember if you need certain ranks to unlock new upgrades of recharge and energy on a Z class (i dont' have one atm) but i know the ceiling is higher (i imagine you can upgrade sooner than any other class too)

[roxxkatt]

all shiptypes information will soon be displayed in http://www.trenchwars.org/distension/upgrades.php soon, and all you will need to do then is count them.

patience = win

[roxxkatt]

also,
check the to do list at http://cz.sshq.net/distension/todo.php before you report something.


any additions to this list, whether in the form of ideas/comments/bugs or whatever, would be appreciated.

[KuNi]

Peace maker, warships maxed energy is higher than z-class maxed. z-class you have to upgrade your charge and energy manually. warship does it automatically and the energy upgrades about 5-6 times every 10 levels(if i remember correctly), but recharge only goes up about 1-2 times every 10 levels.
I remember with my terrier i had warship and the energy went up 1 level, then 2 levels, then 1 again etc. but i remember the max number of energy upgrades being about 35, so it cant go 1,2 all the way to level 80.I have a shitty memory though D:

And cheese, why do you have this on the to do list "DBot> Battle lost. K/D: 0/0 TeKs: 0" sent to nonplaying spectators"
that would just be spam wouldn't it? why would people want to see that when they are in spec.

[roxxkatt]

translation:

IS CURRENTLY BEING sent to nonplaying spectators

[Ivan]

omg peace are you wicked baser?

[DankNuggets]

Peace maker, warships maxed energy is higher than z-class maxed. z-class you have to upgrade your charge and energy manually. warship does it automatically and the energy upgrades about 5-6 times every 10 levels(if i remember correctly), but recharge only goes up about 1-2 times every 10 levels.

you have to do it manually, but the theory is that if you devote almost all of your UP to either energy or rechage, they will be higher than any other class of ship. In practice, I doubt you will wan to do this (ie no other upgrades like bullets, specials, even thrust) and there's no way you can do both.

[Peace_Maker]

omg peace are you wicked baser?

Yes I am.

Thanks nobbi, I currently have 13/19 or 11/19 energy, I don't remember which and to gain another energy I have to wait 6 ranks. I am afraid I will not get the energy I want even in the 70s but I do not want to sacrifice the UP I am spending on extras. What to do. Z class - no, max energy is 2200 which is not enough.

[Stabwound]

A few small updates for you all, thanks to qan:

-Player limit is now set to 28 and will probably rise again provided the game proves to be stable.

-Arena scores should now be persistent across zone recycles as well as when everyone leaves the arena. You can reset your score by using the !scorereset command to DBot while the game is running.

-I also got zone staff to change the distension chat back to a public chat, which means you can access it from non-TW zones.

Have fun.

[roxxkatt]

awesome on all 3, but a little conservative for #1...


now my jav rec can stain the rest of my rec forever! \o/

[Peace_Maker]

Next objective:

Longer hosting times, extend to 3 hours each?

[KuNi]

no, 4 so then i can at least play 1 :P

edit: can i reopen the discussion about the unlock of lanc and weasel? may i suggest 80 army wins for weasel, 100 army wins for lanc, or lvl 40 ship for weasel, level 45 ship for lanc.

[Viruk]

edit: can i reopen the discussion about the unlock of lanc and weasel? may i suggest 80 army wins for weasel, 100 army wins for lanc, or lvl 40 ship for weasel, level 45 ship for lanc.

Only in addition to something like the current skill feat. There ought to be some level of of skill involved in unlocking these powerful ships rather than just playing for a long time.

New players are going to find the feats harder and harder when facing all those high level ships though.

Make it too hard to unlock a favorite ship and you will get too many players spending too much time laming instead of basing. Or concentrating on a single ship at the expense of some fun and team needs. Or cheating. Or leaving to go and play something else.

Perhaps there should be have been a minimum level to prevent players lucking out in some perfect early battle and gaining a big headstart over others in the class. Too late to change that without a reset.

Adding more conditions now may help keep down the numbers of these relatively powerful ships a little but would be more than a little unfair to new players who are increasingly going to have a tougher time unlocking them anyway.

Perhaps it would be alright to add a fairly low minimum ship rank and to compensate by having feats a player could realistically perform with a below average level ship. Something that could take account of the level of the opposition and length of battles (may be just me but there seem to be far fewer 10 minute battles than there used to be).

For example:

To unlock weasel you could make it so you need ensign rank and one ship level 25+ and a 20 kill streak (excluding ships 10 levels below yours) with an extra bonus streak kill for any ships killed that are 20 levels above yours.

To unlock lanc you could make it so you need ensign rank and one ship level 30+ and you need 75 kills during the first 15 minutes into a battle with any ship killed that is 20 levels above yours counting as an extra bonus kill.