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  • A Guide To Javing.

    This is how "I" go about dealing with the different ships in tw in a javelin.

    I personally, am not a camping jav. I stick to midbase whether their team holds fr or not, if their team is in fr and there are no stragglers you have a gourmet of bombing options (yes this is camping but your pretty much forced to camp i believe the jav is way more useful outside fr than in), the right side hole which gives you slightly more scope for shots is the usual choice racking up many kills. If there are enemies around though what do you do?

    Some things to bare in mind. Javelin is suprisingly good at clipping people as they go around walls, the javelin bomb can be fired like a bullet as in it will go past walls slightly overlapping the wall itself without bouncing which means to you that at close range you can try and kill warbirds and spiders just before they come into being able to shoot at you. You can boost until you get to 1100 energy which is actually quite a large leap if anyone missed you or just generally isn't in a good position to shoot you boost at them, you don't see too many javs doing this. This should change. Generally keep to single bullets, if you manage to get one in usually you can follow up with a bomb or another single bullet. Multi is more for punishing weak ships that are crippled. (crippled ships are ships that can't fire at you because they have just fired or have been damaged, boost into these with a bomb unless it's a spider).

    Never go tail first, bullets are too weak to be of any real threat and most ships have better bullet options than you, you want to be facing forwards at all times reminding your enemy that yes you are probably in a less mobile ship but you too can still kill them in one shot and will do so. You may wish to fire the odd multifire shot from long range in the general direction of blues on the radar and then flip 180 degrees. If you do fire a bomb i suggest you retreat taking into account the enemies energy level and boosting capabilities, think to yourself if i bomb now will i of dealt enough damage to be safe afterwards? or will it kill them? In situations where it's 2 against one you either want to run or warp, unless you have a rocket this way you have a chance of survival if you miss your bomb. Another thing to take into account is that sometimes you wont have enough energy for a bomb and you will be in dangerous territory, you can rocket if you want but this is just a waste of a rocket, you can use your bullets to give you a little time or slightly cripple some ships to take the heat off you until you can recharge your bomb. Usually you want to just plant the bomb into peoples faces, radius kills are usually for weaker/crippled ships or just newbs, good players will be aware of your radius and avoid all the places where you could land a shot like that, the only chance you have of taking a good player out with a radius kill is either a stray or when they are crippled and literally cannot dodge it.

    A good warbird will be aware that you have a rocket so will try and waste it while remaining safe enough away, if they get sloppy and forget about it however which is actually pretty common, easy kill, a warbird is a better ship than the one you're in, so if it's not a guaranteed bomb you may wish to just kill it by rocketing. You can deal with warbirds by trying to bait them to fire at you in a situation which should be a sure kill for them however the rocket allows you to inhumanely dodge the bullet and then kill the crippled warbird. If a warbird navigates too close to a wall that your behind you can shoot them with your bomb before they can shoot you, take advantage of this. Once they realise this they'll be trickier and bait you into firing or boost past the wall by a fair bit, this is why you should learn to fire at warbirds that try and speed towards you by bouncing into a wall. Aim at where they will bounce off it. If a warbird missed you in a more open setting boost towards them if they react quick enough it's just a fake and you reset the situation by going behind a wall, if they don't they are dead. If a warbird has you pinned behind an object, and they approach your nose kill them, you have the advantage at clip shooting and even then the bomb will bounce but the moment you fire go into evasive maneuvers incase you miss, if they approach your tail fire a single in their direction and then thrust a little to reset the situation behind an object. If the warbird approaches your tail, don't try and turn around the warbird has much better rotation than you instead fire a single which potentially kills rushier warbirds and if not this resets the situation behind the object AND if the single hits the warbird you have until the warbird recharges 250 energy to kill them, this is not alot of time so you have to be quick. Another thing to mention is like all ships keep the enemy guessing do fake setups for shots and then bounce off walls flip 180 degrees and make the warbird worried.
    Last edited by inaphyt; 12-21-2009, 10:52 PM.

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    Thanks!
    I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say: "That was very helpfull!"
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    • #3
      no one wants to read a guide to subspace written by someone who is equivalent in skill to ignite. thanks for trying though, let us veterans discuss the big boy matters.
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      • #4
        thank you,,, i will use this advice to improve my javving skills
        Condom> sometimes I lose on purpose just to remember what it feels like

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        • #5
          This is for pub guys!!!!

          lol
          There once was a man from Nantucket.

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          • #6
            Anyone doubts my jav skills i'll duel you infront of all of your friends and laugh as you lose.

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            • #7
              That is fludd dude. You lose.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Eugene View Post
                no one wants to read a guide to subspace written by someone who is equivalent in skill to ignite. thanks for trying though, let us veterans discuss the big boy matters.
                Yeah sure. I'm sure the new players will appreciate the entire lack of content generated by you guys. Want some nails to hammer into this game's coffin while you're at it?

                Also thanks inaphyt, the community would benefit a lot from more people trying to get knowledge out there.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for typing this out but in all honesty.. it's pretty useless, even for pub. Imean... jav vs any other ship besides jav?? Cmon man not even a pro jav would not be able to kill a newbie spider, lanc, or wb.. that's a complete joke lol seriously, there's no strategy in jav vs other ships unless you have a team behind you.

                  Secondly: words can't help you in this game, as it is not a role playing game but a game that strictly depends on how much you practice. There's no attributes, no items, no levels, no walkthroughs, but just you and your ship.

                  Lastly, if you really want to help out the community, make a vid of yourself javing. I heard u like dueling... why not record some of your duels and put together an instructional video and stick the youtube link on this site.

                  ps. Each ship was designed for a specific purpose. Some ships (jav, lev, sharks, terrs) aka basing ships were not designed to fight enemies 1v1 and out in the open. They're strictly meant for basing and have to have a team in order to successfully compete. Putting any of these ships vs a fighting ship (spider, lanc, wb) is ridiculously unfair. You can write books about this and still won't help the fact that a fight is only fair and balanced when a ship fights another ship of the same class.
                  Last edited by Depre; 11-27-2009, 01:07 AM.
                  1:Da1andonly> korven plays subspace from a 1978 microwave

                  Grab a piece of paper. Place a dot in the middle of it. Draw a small circle around the dot, and leave the rest open. The dot represents your knowledge. It's what you know. It is the limit of your mind's capacity. The circle around the dot is everything that you don't know - but you know that it exists. And the rest of the paper is everything that you didn't even know that you'd never know - that exists or has the potential to exist.

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                  • #10
                    There is no newbies on this forum like the ones that would actually benefit from a guide like that (as in the totally new players). Seriously do you think there is anyone here that doesn't know that a repped, rocketing jav will get super speed here?

                    If you want to help out newbies seek them out in pubs, because they are certainly not registering on this forum as they start playing the game. I get why people want to trash this thread because he assume that we don't know this, which is kinda like calling us pub newbies.

                    It's a nice effort, but a very stupid one at the same time.
                    Da1andonly> man this youghurt only made me angry

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                    • #11
                      Who is Inaphyt?
                      LA

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by inaphyt View Post
                        Anyone doubts my jav skills i'll duel you infront of all of your friends and laugh as you lose.
                        Originally posted by Tone
                        It is now time for the energy shift of the 7th root race to manifest on the 3D physical plane and uplift us back to 5D.
                        Originally posted by the_paul
                        Gargle battery acid fuckface
                        Originally posted by Material Girl
                        I tried downloading a soundcard

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Depre View Post
                          Secondly: words can't help you in this game, as it is not a role playing game but a game that strictly depends on how much you practice. There's no attributes, no items, no levels, no walkthroughs, but just you and your ship.
                          No offense, but this is a load of BS. Whether the guide is actually of any significant use is one thing, but to say written word can't help you? Thats insane. There is a significant amount of guides for pretty much for pretty much every competitive game out there. TW is not so special and 'skill' that words offer no benefit. It's true that you can't just get magically better by reading, but reading up about a game will teach you about aspects, nuances concepts that will make practice all the more beneficial. You can also cut out tedious, boring hard learned lessons. Theres aspects to energy management and boost movement that I'm sure the majority of players are surprisingly unaware of.

                          The community attitude of "lol stop being a nub" really doesn't do it many favors when it comes to getting new players.

                          Lastly, if you really want to help out the community, make a vid of yourself javing. I heard u like dueling... why not record some of your duels and put together an instructional video and stick the youtube link on this site.
                          But yeah this would be extra-super-awesome.

                          Originally posted by Noah View Post
                          There is no newbies on this forum like the ones that would actually benefit from a guide like that (as in the totally new players). Seriously do you think there is anyone here that doesn't know that a repped, rocketing jav will get super speed here?

                          If you want to help out newbies seek them out in pubs, because they are certainly not registering on this forum as they start playing the game. I get why people want to trash this thread because he assume that we don't know this, which is kinda like calling us pub newbies.

                          It's a nice effort, but a very stupid one at the same time.
                          Of course they're not looking here right now. This place is a joke and useful content is amazingly sparse. Maybe some actual content would help that imagine. I mean, it's pretty amazing to me. I have never seen a forum for a competitive game that had virtually no decision on the competitive strategies of the game. It baffles me.
                          Last edited by KayinNasaki; 11-27-2009, 01:01 AM.

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                          • #14
                            I liked it

                            If you think it sucks, surely there's no harm in just letting it be :|

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nockm View Post
                              I liked it

                              If you think it sucks, surely there's no harm in just letting it be :|
                              I liked it beacuse nockm liked it! :turned:
                              1:Da1andonly> korven plays subspace from a 1978 microwave

                              Grab a piece of paper. Place a dot in the middle of it. Draw a small circle around the dot, and leave the rest open. The dot represents your knowledge. It's what you know. It is the limit of your mind's capacity. The circle around the dot is everything that you don't know - but you know that it exists. And the rest of the paper is everything that you didn't even know that you'd never know - that exists or has the potential to exist.

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