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  • #16
    Originally posted by Zazu View Post
    The money system is great, but ok opinions may differ. There's no change that gets accepted without anyone objecting. You wouldn't want to know how many people went crazy when the first car was introduced in the early 1900s.

    As for the donation system, this game is not a pay-to-play game. Not even close.
    We are asking for donations in a reasonable way and we are explaining to whoever LISTENS that we are using it for good purposes. You can even select the purpose yourself that you want your money to go to.
    You can earn pub money by playing, so there is no obligation for anybody to donate money. We are just rewarding the ones that DO support TrenchWars by giving them some pubcash.

    Continuum is a free-to-play game, but you should sometimes realize that it's not a free-to-offer game. So be thankful to the people that are paying in order for you to be able to play.

    I can image that if we'd set up this donating system you'd go crazy and cry that we are not rewarding you for it.
    Every day people cry that the population of TW is diminishing. Yet none of the crying people is doing anything to stop this. So we take action and try to promote TrenchWars as a game, by advertizing it on the right places. Obviously mostly it's not free. So now you cry that we trying to get more people to play.

    Instead of crying over everything we do, you should appreciate the effort some people are putting into keeping this game alive. And if you think you can do better, your help is more than welcome.
    so much wrong with what you said i couldn't even start to put you right, but really dont jump to assumptions about me appreciating the effort of SOME staff and ppl like pure_luck who have paid for the server ... but there is a big difference between those that do a thankless task quietly for the right reasons and those that self-promote themselves and act holier than thou

    now if your talking about ppl putting in effort in saving a game by making changes that are driving me, and i'm sure others as well away, from the game then nah i'll say what i think and you should appreciate that , many ppl dont use these forums but have opinions and feedback , just yesterday i seen 2 ppl i dont know and 2 ppl i know , say they didn't like the new public or money system ... i told them to post in the forums but only 1 out of the 4 did cuase they dont have accounts and cant be bothered ...


    TW has had a donation system without reward other than you could be listed along with the donation if you choose ... i've no problem with donations and have myself donated to non-profit organisations i believe in for no reward ... so you really are full of shit saying
    I can image that if we'd set up this donating system you'd go crazy and cry that we are not rewarding you for it.
    but i guess it's easier to paint that picture of me because i'm not agreeing with this latest staff clique , so really get of your high horse and realise that staff are just part of the community just like me a player and the staff making major changes are far from infallible

    for me doing things like this thread are changing the fundamentals of the game and why i was attracted to it in the firstplace ... and as i've said since there are so many games that say free but then have hidden costs for "rewards" if i seen this as a new user i'd never play due to being able to use real money for advantages in the game.
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    • #17
      $50 gives you 2000 space dollars. What can you buy with that? I don't think you can buy a lot - can someone give some examples please?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pressure Drop View Post
        for me doing things like this thread are changing the fundamentals of the game and why i was attracted to it in the firstplace ... and as i've said since there are so many games that say free but then have hidden costs for "rewards" if i seen this as a new user i'd never play due to being able to use real money for advantages in the game.
        I understand what you're saying Pressure. I'm hopeful that the system will attract more people than it drives away though, as stated above, any change that is made will have negative and positive responses. The fact that many people can win money by playing this game (weekly cash events - also partially funded through donations), will most likely increase the number of people that try this game out.

        I'm going to ignore the holier than though art comment, because I honestly don't think anyone here is trying to display that attitude. You're obviously welcome to your opinion and encouraged to share it with everyone here.

        You stated you spoke with 4 people about how they didn't like the new pub system; I’ve personally spoken with well over a hundred people that actually do like it. (No exaggeration).

        Feel free to comment back with any updates/suggestions that will be useful in bringing about positive change.

        -24
        Help Promote TrenchWars - www.trenchwars.org/donations - www.trenchwars.org/donationsoverview

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Nockm View Post
          $50 gives you 2000 space dollars. What can you buy with that? I don't think you can buy a lot - can someone give some examples please?


          no no! It's a multiplier Nockm.

          $49 X 1,900 = 93,100

          $50 X 2,000 = 100,000
          $51 X 2,000 = 102,000
          $52 X 2,000 = 104,000
          $53 X 2,000 = 106,000
          $54 X 2,000 = 108,000

          $55 X 2,100 = 115,500

          Go here: www.trenchwars.org/donations

          Then click "anonymous" to automatically go there, or "named" to sign in. There's a calculator that calculates it for you there

          If you donated $1 fifty times, you would only get 50,000 pub cash, but if you donate $50 at one time, you get 100,000 pub cash. Or if you donate $100 at one time, you'll get 300,000 pub cash.

          Let me know if you have any questions!

          -24
          Last edited by Twenty Four; 10-25-2010, 03:02 PM.
          Help Promote TrenchWars - www.trenchwars.org/donations - www.trenchwars.org/donationsoverview

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          • #20
            Lol reminds me of when I got someone's 'food-chain' thread wrong...

            Okay cool. What can you buy with that? I can't find out at the moment since I can't log in.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Nockm View Post
              Lol reminds me of when I got someone's 'food-chain' thread wrong...

              Okay cool. What can you buy with that? I can't find out at the moment since I can't log in.

              Go to Pub, then type:

              :TW-Pub1:!buy

              That will give you the list of items you can buy, and their prices!

              -24
              Help Promote TrenchWars - www.trenchwars.org/donations - www.trenchwars.org/donationsoverview

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              • #22
                Okay thanks, I'll wait next week until I can actually do that.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Nockm View Post
                  Okay thanks, I'll wait next week until I can actually do that.
                  I'm not at home either. If someone else will do that for us, and post prices on this forum, that would be great!

                  -24
                  Help Promote TrenchWars - www.trenchwars.org/donations - www.trenchwars.org/donationsoverview

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                  • #24
                    PD, I see a lot of the points you are trying to make. I just think you are misinterpreting the point of a lot of what is being done. Please note that I am NOT a staff member, and likely never will be. With that said....

                    Using this new system, when you donate to TW, you are not "paying for an edge on the competition". You choose how exactly you want your dollar/pound/whatever your money is called to be spent. The reward we have in place is just an extra. You don't even have to accept the reward if you really had a moral objection against it. You would be investing in something very specific if you chose to donate. IE: Cash Events, Advertising, Charity. I am one of the biggest supporters of this operation, hence why I volunteered to create the thread. However, my donation was to charity (Make-A-Wish Foundation), as I will not donate to the game directly until I see exactly how its going to be spent.

                    If you want to donate to a non-profit organization on your own time then by all means, that is a great thing to do. All we are saying is that if you do it through TW, you can, and will be rewarded for it with pub money (That is worth $0). I used my money to thor a couple people that were dueling and costing one of them the game (gg peru) and had a ton of fun and laughs doing so. I did not "buy pub money", I donated to an organization that helps people with terminal illnesses fulfill a dream they have before they die. That makes me feel pretty good. In my opinion, any way to promote people donating to charities like these is a positive thing and should not be frowned upon.

                    I know you are not happy with some of the changes in TW pub recently, but try to stop letting your disappointment influence everything else that is happening. This is a win/win for everybody involved. 24 is a trustworthy guy and deserves your trust too, at least until he gives you a reason not to

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Nockm View Post
                      Okay thanks, I'll wait next week until I can actually do that.
                      NOCKM

                      Code:
                      TW-Pub1>  !buy fullcharge      -- A full charge ($10)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy repel           -- A repel ($20)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy rocket          -- A rocket ($20)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy shrap           -- A shrapnel ($20)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy portal          -- A portal ($50)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy burst*          -- A burst ($50)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy brick           -- A brick ($100)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy decoy           -- A decoy ($100)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy pack*           -- A pack of prizes ($200)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy xradar          -- A X-Radar ($200)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy antiwarp        -- An AntiWarp ($500)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy pwarp**         -- Warp a player ($1000)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy slowdown**      -- Slow down a player for 5 seconds ($1000)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy thor            -- A thor ($1000)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy shield*         -- A shield for 30 seconds ($2000)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy super*          -- A super for 60 seconds ($2000)
                         TW-Pub1> Ship Upgrades:
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy superlev        -- An upgrade for the bomb (L3-Emp) ($2000)
                         TW-Pub1> Specials:
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy strikebase      -- Warp all your team inside the flag room ($2500)
                         TW-Pub1>  !buy epidemic        -- Start an epidemic ($5000)
                         TW-Pub1> Legend: *Target optional **Target required (!buy item:PlayerName)
                         TW-Pub1> Use !iteminfo <item> for more info about the specified item and its restrictions.

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                      • #26
                        Pressure Drop I think you're too stupid to realize it's 'Donate to help' and not 'Pay to play'. People are helping out the zone in a huge way and you're mad? These cash events spike a lot of interest in the zone and keep this game alive. Just look at yesterday, the jav event had over 100+ people for the WHOLE 2 hours. Tres' deathmatch had over 100+ on a friday night.

                        The spacebux reward is a small bonus. So people are able to shoot some extra thors, it's not a big deal. Let them have some fun, they just helped out the zone. Donating to the game isn't helping anybody get better at subspace or helping them win TWL, it's helping the zone stay alive. Stop crying and say thanks you faggot
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                        • #27
                          Thanks 24 + Mythril

                          Looks like I can slow down a player 100x for $50. Quite tempting to target just one person, guaranteed ragequit!

                          Can you do it while they're duelling? :P

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                          • #28
                            I can donate 60 bucks and win the next pub spree contest by buying 63 shields for a total of 31 minutes and 30 seconds of invulnerability

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by nockm View Post
                              thanks 24 + mythril
                              ahem

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                              • #30
                                when weren't we accepting donations
                                Originally posted by turmio
                                jeenyuss seemingly without reason if he didn't have clean flours in his bag.
                                Originally posted by grand
                                I've been afk eating an apple and watching the late night news...

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