Cheats or lag in TWD

[Reckful]

played subspace from fairbanks alaska for 3 years never went over 100 so.... nope

[Shaddowknight]

Move to northern Alaska, pretty sure you can manage 300ms there.

[Jones]

when i figure out how to get 300ms

[Crescent Seal]

wat time remake sweet

[Jones]

? y u forget brokenfist...guy would drop 15s and 17s in twl while using his toaster as a modem

brokenfist was never a threat to a good squad. he could beat up on newbies because of his lag. americans with their 300 ms back when i had 10 was a huge challenge. please refer to my earlier post

in conclusion: get gud

[Shaddowknight]

why is no one mentioning geio?

guy was an east coaster with a consistent 180-190ms up until maybe last year.

I think we need to start looking into the american/canadian players with 120ms+.

Shaddowkni> ?lag
PING Current:130 ms Average:120 ms Low:90 ms High:360 ms S2C: 0.0% C2S: 0.0%


I'm like 4 hours from server, no other internet programs running. Wireless router is IN my room. Few other devices even connected.

Bandwidth has increased, but so has general use. ISP quality has also degraded significantly (just ask 24). ISP's will shove 7 people together on their system instead, causing them to basically eat at each other's bandwidth. It saves money by not having to drastically upgrade their infrastructure so often, and it saves you money by not making you pay for continual infrastructure upgrades.

[Exalt]

why is no one mentioning geio?

guy was an east coaster with a consistent 180-190ms up until maybe last year.

I think we need to start looking into the american/canadian players with 120ms+.

Maybe he still had AOL? Lol. You guys are forgetting how most of us had 300 ms back in the days when dialup was king and the server was in Finland. I don't think 120 ms is really that high in the grand scheme of things.

[paradise!]

why is no one mentioning geio?

guy was an east coaster with a consistent 180-190ms up until maybe last year.

I think we need to start looking into the american/canadian players with 120ms+.

[Demonic]

? y u forget brokenfist...guy would drop 15s and 17s in twl while using his toaster as a modem

lol quite. Before him I believe it was Roi and Shivan? double team lag. Nightmare to fight in elims

[Shaddowknight]

Good ol' multipurpose toaster. Think they use it to take photos of bigfoot too.

[Crescent Seal]

? y u forget brokenfist...guy would drop 15s and 17s in twl while using his toaster as a modem

[Kahlan]

I don't understand how people can have real lag that isn't manipulated and still get an advantage. When I was in South America, the lag that I got made the game unplayable. I don't care how good you are, lagging that hard can't make you better. Only way to get an honest, consistent advantage with lag is to manipulate it intentionally.

[Jones]

i forgot about this thread.

i never said cheats do not exist. i said most of the time people complain about it is because the other person is simply better. lag is also always a huge deal that newbies just have to get used to.. pressing shift fucks up the prediction code which usually results in eats. that's one issue that will always remain here. get over it

[Demonic]

I don't think CE, at least the ppl that used them in TWL before (delectable, vys, Mythril) works like it used to, but for people like Jones to say there have never been cheats in SS, that's just ignorance. Obviously Jones wasn't there playing against people like vys and delectable back in 2004/05ish and watching first hand as these players cheated in TWLD. I don't know about Dice, but with faggots like megaman running the show, I don't doubt it one bit.

Anyways, there ARE cheats for subspace. For people to actually take the time to set them up correctly though, that's pretty pathetic considering the talent level nowadays. That being said, I get more eats on people these days than I ever did during any other time playing subspace in the last 14 years. I get about 10 eats every DD at least, although I just play through it. You have to expect that people will eat, and for the legitimate people that are just laggots, they also get eats on other players, because an eat is really just a dodged shot that doesn't show up on your side of the client.

Anyways, with all that being said, there always were and still are cheats for subspace. CE was just the most well known example. Also, if I remember correctly, there were hotkeys to turn things like CE on or off at a whim without alt tabbing the subspace client, therefore it IS possible to cheat and also do it subtly enough to not get caught. I'll never understand why people are so bad at this game that they feel the need to do it, but it is possible. To deny that is just ignorant, because it was proven DURING TWL games in the past. There is a reason VYS got lifebanned (he was banned for like 6 months in actuality). I remember even joining vys' squad Lifeban and playing in TWL under that squad name in the past. It was a great inside joke.

Their are plenty of cheats for subspace if you know where to look, the current ones are hard to detect but include:

- A form of aimbot (line across screen from ship showing trajectory of bullet for wb)
- Pixel edit (kinda a hash of an old cheat, easily noticeable by player at speed going through rocks)
- The old fashioned cable pull
- Ship edit (add super, prize speed, rotation etc..)


When you see players hit and no death, ocassionally it can be the pixel edit, but a lot of the times it is just a form of spiking. All the above are detectable, with varying ease. Those are just 4 I know where are available online, however, I am sure there are plenty more (obviously cable pull is not online but requires user interaction)

[Bukkake Surprise]

So those people should unplug their shit if they want to play.