Public memo - October 2016

[roxxkatt]

always a good time seeing people complain about tw leadership and then propose all of ss fall under tw leadership on literally the same page

[Jones]

I'm wondering what can possibly be done to improve pub?

pubsquads

[Jones]

I figured out a more easier to understand Staff Organizational Chart that explains our current, past and future situation



Enjoy!

[Ivf]

Agreed with Jones on regards of pubsquads...possibly giving pub bux to the players in squads, for example...double pub bux to 2 players on the same Freq playing, triple points for 3 players, you get the picture...

[Ricko]

thought you retired

[Ivf]

I don't play anymore but browse forum on my phone

[qan]

Agreed with Jones on regards of pubsquads...possibly giving pub bux to the players in squads, for example...double pub bux to 2 players on the same Freq playing, triple points for 3 players, you get the picture...

Too good an idea not to immediately implement. It's a smaller bonus, though -- have to see how it plays, and if it motivates anyone. 20% for 2 players, 40% for 3 ... up to 100% bonus (double) for 6+ players. Currently it will occasionally send a message to the winning freq that they can receive this bonus if they squad up.

I figured out a more easier to understand Staff Organizational Chart that explains our current, past and future situation

I lol'd

What we should do is speak to other zones and combining all ship settings, maps and events into one zone and host a mixture of games from each zone in the big zone. We need to become the Pangaea

Lot of reasons this will never happen. But for any old zones that are no longer around, TW, like many other still-active zones, will gladly host old arenas (and bots, if they're in TWCore and compatible).


Keep it under your hat but we do still have two Steam releases left. If everything goes well, we'll have another shot at a huge influx of people. With a bit of coordination and regular updates, we might be able to keep all zone's downloads to an absolute minimum, so as to make a seamless entry for new players. Not that many will stay with what we've got, though. So I'm looking into the controversial idea of updating some of the most outdated parts of the game for the default release ... for example, running a low pass filter over most of the sounds and converting to 44kHz ... disabling engine sounds by default ... background graphics ... a variety of keyboard bindings available, including a default that's different from standard ... etc etc. Attempting to maintain the spirit of the original without looking/feeling so much like it's from the late 90's. "Original" flavor available as a DLC. Just rambling, nothing decided, but, some ideas.

[Ivf]

I will rejoin game and staff if I get the position - Idea man...there's plenty more where that came from l. I will go straight to M_M with my ideas, so that he can look useful in the staff list.

[Omega Red]

I don't play anymore but browse forum on my phone

It's hard to quit this game. You'll never quit. This is the greatest game ever made.

[forwards]

This is probably the best possible move going forward, consolidation of the zones. I remember people have brought this up in the past before, and it was killed due to zone owners still trying to maintain control. I would imagine that all zones could probably be hosted under TW since it's the biggest zone.

The only challenge would be convincing players and the owners that their zone would have to become a sub-arena of TW? This would greatly benefit TW the most but who knows. The bureaucracy that exists still in this dead game is ridiculous

hehehe

[Exalt]

You guys in staff circle jerk each other way too much. The few players left do the same as well. It's a big jerk party, but nothing ever gets done. Nothing changes. It's an ego trip for most players on staff, and they've been in control of a game that's been drastically dying for years. Think about how incompetent most staff are to not have joined steam years ago. Think of how useless these staff members have been to legitimately do nothing different than the status quo from 15 years ago. It's pathetic really. The status quo didn't work. The game is dead for a reason.

Also, you're greatest 'hope' is a few hundred new players from steam. You hope to get literally dozens of regular players that stick around. It's a joke.

The real issue I have here is that staff even has so many members. NEW multiplayer games, developed by Indy devs, don't have so many staff members. Think about that. Raizin says there's literally just one dev on the staff team. So essentially, there's only one useful staff member out of all of you. The rest need to go. Your nepotism help ruin the game long ago, and it never had a chance to do anything different when useless staff members (every single one of you besides the 1 dev) liked to status quo too much. If not, you all lacked imagination, and it's absolutely pathetic that this transparency post was done in Oct 2016. Seriously, 2016? You couldn't try this 10 years ago? 15 years ago?

This game is fucked guys, and it was helped along its doomed path by these staff members like Beasty and the rest. They're the bottom of the barrel in a dead game. Any changes that are attempted now not only should've been done 15+ years ago, but also are a half-assed joke. This post by Beasty is called transparency. That has to be a joke.

My feeling is that these staff members work in fast food IRL. The only useful one, the 1 dev (is it you qan?), isn't running things. The real 'power' is in the SYSOP's hands, and his qualifications are being good at kissing ass. He's a yes man that has zero original ideas. Even the new idea he brings up here in the OP is useless. There hasn't been any transparency with that post, so why even write it? All it accomplished was show the rest of us how absolutely inept you all really are.


oh and Raizin: why would I apply for staff when I'm advocating for all staff to be let go aside from the devs? If there's only one actual dev in that huge mass of staff members, then even you should recognize that's a problem. All I see is a lot of useless and inept people. Let actual devs run the zone. All one of him.

edit: none of you created this game. You don't even run more than a single zone in a game you didn't make. The devs are the only ones who even touched it. Stop pretending as if 99% of you are qualified to head over any of the players. Let the players make group decisions and drain the swamp. Nobody supports staff for a reason. It never should've been ran like this from the start. At this point, I'm just pointing out the obvious failures of this game. So few players ever had any real input in how it was run, so there is practically nobody left. The good staff members left long ago for a reason: politics. A ton of inept people playing political games on a player-ran game drove a lot of good people away. Enjoy your small bit of e-cred while it lasts. It isn't like you have more than a 100 or so active players in game anyways. Go pretend transparency is a thing between yourselves. Nobody else has ever bought what you're selling.

[Ivf]

I agree with exalt on this. They should have the coders running the shit with the general public giving ideas. The rest of staff are not needed...keep staff who do similar work irl to what they are needed to do in game.

[rothe]

Why do they have to get rid of staff?
What does it matter how many there are so long as stuff gets done?

Some people want their ideas implemented others want theirs in the end its a stalemate.
If all these ideas that are so great are being ignored by players just post your idea on the main boards. If others like it which I have seen before they will back it and it will get implemented. If not then it wont. Yes this game is very top heavy but it is also very old. btching and the like are not going to solve anything.

Ideas and solutions are. So rather than hate throw some good ideas out there even if you arent one of the vaunted staff. Who the fk cares if they are staff or not the end game should be to make things better and get more players to come back.

[raizin]

You guys in staff circle jerk each other way too much. The few players left do the same as well. It's a big jerk party, but nothing ever gets done. Nothing changes. It's an ego trip for most players on staff, and they've been in control of a game that's been drastically dying for years. Think about how incompetent most staff are to not have joined steam years ago. Think of how useless these staff members have been to legitimately do nothing different than the status quo from 15 years ago. It's pathetic really. The status quo didn't work. The game is dead for a reason.

Also, you're greatest 'hope' is a few hundred new players from steam. You hope to get literally dozens of regular players that stick around. It's a joke.

The real issue I have here is that staff even has so many members. NEW multiplayer games, developed by Indy devs, don't have so many staff members. Think about that. Raizin says there's literally just one dev on the staff team. So essentially, there's only one useful staff member out of all of you. The rest need to go. Your nepotism help ruin the game long ago, and it never had a chance to do anything different when useless staff members (every single one of you besides the 1 dev) liked to status quo too much. If not, you all lacked imagination, and it's absolutely pathetic that this transparency post was done in Oct 2016. Seriously, 2016? You couldn't try this 10 years ago? 15 years ago?

This game is fucked guys, and it was helped along its doomed path by these staff members like Beasty and the rest. They're the bottom of the barrel in a dead game. Any changes that are attempted now not only should've been done 15+ years ago, but also are a half-assed joke. This post by Beasty is called transparency. That has to be a joke.

My feeling is that these staff members work in fast food IRL. The only useful one, the 1 dev (is it you qan?), isn't running things. The real 'power' is in the SYSOP's hands, and his qualifications are being good at kissing ass. He's a yes man that has zero original ideas. Even the new idea he brings up here in the OP is useless. There hasn't been any transparency with that post, so why even write it? All it accomplished was show the rest of us how absolutely inept you all really are.


oh and Raizin: why would I apply for staff when I'm advocating for all staff to be let go aside from the devs? If there's only one actual dev in that huge mass of staff members, then even you should recognize that's a problem. All I see is a lot of useless and inept people. Let actual devs run the zone. All one of him.

edit: none of you created this game. You don't even run more than a single zone in a game you didn't make. The devs are the only ones who even touched it. Stop pretending as if 99% of you are qualified to head over any of the players. Let the players make group decisions and drain the swamp. Nobody supports staff for a reason. It never should've been ran like this from the start. At this point, I'm just pointing out the obvious failures of this game. So few players ever had any real input in how it was run, so there is practically nobody left. The good staff members left long ago for a reason: politics. A ton of inept people playing political games on a player-ran game drove a lot of good people away. Enjoy your small bit of e-cred while it lasts. It isn't like you have more than a 100 or so active players in game anyways. Go pretend transparency is a thing between yourselves. Nobody else has ever bought what you're selling.

Qan is a sysop fam.

[forwards]

Why do they have to get rid of staff?
What does it matter how many there are so long as stuff gets done?

kinda answered your own question there, don'tcha think? :P