Disclaimers should be allowed.

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

Originally posted by za gophar
like removed the only problem anyone could have with this joke is the connotation of the word negro.. but i think they would be taking it too seriously.

due to your lack of disclaimer, i'm hereby offended by your joke and request that you be banned until you can control your confederate urge to hang black people.

p.s. eat poo, grand wizard.

[MaGi kOz]

Originally posted by Kolar
Do what you want in game, but don't try to turn it into "Hey guys i'm saying something racist, you better go away because staff can't ban me for it!!".

I don't believe racism is a good form of expression, nor should it become the norm in a casual conversation. My only problem is that you're trying to do is make it into a situation where you couldn't be warned/banned for it.


I feel that racism is used to incite anger in people and has almost no other fuction then that. Its used as a tool of hatred nothing more. That is besides the point that it is aginst the rules. No stupid peice of writing is going to change that, so get use to it or get banned.

OH MY GOODNESS! You turned my disclaimer into first grade bullshit. Your mockery of my disclaimer is an insult. Not only is your mockery insulting, but it will never work as a useful disclaimer. Disclaimers use specific words so that not only will it make sense, but it won't seem stupid and make people want to ignore it.

You're also thinking of the wrong racism. I'm joking with it. You're thinking of something along the lines of:

Borderline, removed.

not this:

For christs sake mate, you know these jokes are racist, you even said so in the first part of this post and at the top of this thred, so why the hell did you go on and post them? You even censored this joke yourself in an earlier post! Consider this an official warning. -ZeUs!!

Now which line pissed you off the most?

Okay. Now if you want stupid piece of writing... tell me which sounds more educated:

"Hey guys i'm saying something racist, you better go away because staff can't ban me for it!!".

or

DISCLAIMER: IF RACIST JOKES OFFEND YOU, PLEASE LEAVE THE ARENA OR IGNORE ALL I AM SAYING FROM THIS POINT ON. I SHALL NOT TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR ANY EMOTIONAL PAIN MY RACIAL JOKE MAY ENDOW- IT'S ONLY A JOKE AND MEANT TO NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. IF YOU STAY OR CONTINUE TO LISTEN AND READ MY RACIST JOKE, YOU THEN AGREE TO THIS STATEMENT.

[Kolar]

It doesn't matter if I find it offensive or staff does, someone could no matter which way you put. I didn't read your 'joke', but staff seems to think it was worth it to warn you.

"Disclaimers should be allowed."

Disclaimers should be allowed, to do what? Take all responsibility away from someone.

"DISCLAIMER: IF RACIST JOKES OFFEND YOU, PLEASE LEAVE THE ARENA OR IGNORE ALL I AM SAYING FROM THIS POINT ON. I SHALL NOT TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR ANY EMOTIONAL PAIN MY RACIAL JOKE MAY ENDOW- IT'S ONLY A JOKE AND MEANT TO NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. IF YOU STAY OR CONTINUE TO LISTEN AND READ MY RACIST JOKE, YOU THEN AGREE TO THIS STATEMENT."

All I get from that is that you don't want to take any responsibility for any harmful actions you intentionally or unintentionally cause and that it's not your fault if anyone does take offence to it.

Racism is something that people don't want to listen to, and I don't care if a group of people in elim do or not. The majority doesn't want it in thier nice little 2d space ship game. People will take things seriously wheater you tell them to or not, so don't expect a peice of writing to change that.

[Troll King]

Originally posted by MaGi kOz
OH PLEASE. you're taking it too seriously, like i said. Getting cheated by someone is something NOBODY likes. Alot of people like hearing jokes. You used the wrong metaphor. Same with Paul. And I didn't give the people only the choice to leave the arena. They could've ?ignored me which is a way better thing to do. Who has any guilt in telling a joke? Who could be of any harm in being told of a joke? The only harm it could do is if nobody gets it or if people aren't open minded enough to take one and laugh about it; this topic for an example.



Is it wrong because you think it's wrong, or because society tells you it's wrong?

Nobody likes cheating so it won't be done, but racism is okay. You may think I'm taking this too seriously but in what universe do you live in when you place higher morals on cheating in a game than on discrimination? I think it's an apt comparison. And yes, I find it wrong because I do personally and morally feel it wrong. If you don't believe that, then at the very least I find it wrong the same way you apparently find cheating wrong.

Heck, if you want another comparison, I still do ?cheater levi tking reports even when the levi spams chat with macros telling us he's going to shoot. It does not absolve him, and neither do these disclaimers absolve you.

[MaGi kOz]

Originally posted by Troll King
Nobody likes cheating so it won't be done, but racism is okay. You may think I'm taking this too seriously but in what universe do you live in when you place higher morals on cheating in a game than on discrimination?

THIS ONE. I call my friends "crackers", "ni**ers", "beaners" all the time but when they use auto-aim or wall hack on me in a game [ game i'm refering to is counter-strike ], it's over. Perhaps we are alittle open minded. That's why if you see somebody telling racial jokes, most likely they are young people who are able to deal with racism and not kill each other over it. If I called you a cracker [ if you were respectively white ], would you in turn jokingly call me a short azn and laugh about it all, or throw a fit and have me lynched?

And that's another thing. We are so paranoid about racism that we link the word "lynch" as a racial slur. While some-ignorant-somebody thinks of it as a "black related racial term", it really means to "Kill without legal sanction; by a mob". Nothing racial about that.

[MaGi kOz]

Originally posted by Kolar
Racism is something that people don't want to listen to, and I don't care if a group of people in elim do or not. The majority doesn't want it in thier nice little 2d space ship game. People will take things seriously wheater you tell them to or not, so don't expect a peice of writing to change that.

Maybe you should speak for yourself if people don't like racist jokes, NOT MEAN RACIAL SLURS, but racist JOKES, why did only 4 people total reply to my post? Even from the four, two openly said that racial jokes are okay as long as you do it privately. I thought racial jokes at all expense is bad, private or not. Even then, they still encouraged racial jokes but not in a public sense. What's the point? It seems as if nobody cares if I tell my racial jokes or not, just you two [kolar & troll king]. Does that really show that the majority, atleast on these forums, do not want a racial joke to be told out of hilarity? For the sake of a laugh? A chuckle? A giggle? A gag? A smirk? C'mon Kolar. Laugh. <<- magi koz smiling because this is funny.

[Mattey]

Originally posted by MaGi kOz
It seems as if nobody cares if I tell my racial jokes or not, just you two [kolar & troll king]. Does that really show that the majority, atleast on these forums, do not want a racial joke to be told out of hilarity?

Protecting the minority is more important than hearing one of your shitty jokes.

[Sufficient]

Let's say you're with a friend at a cafe outside. Assuming you had a loud voice, you wouldn't say a racist joke bc there are probably ppl around you who DON'T want to listen to it. Of course your friend would probably be ok with it, but not other ppl in an extremely public place. You wouldn't go about telling everyone in the cafe about your disclaimer ...

Bascially, have some courtousy, since you're in a public place ....

[Kolar]

Originally posted by MaGi kOz
Maybe you should speak for yourself if people don't like racist jokes, NOT MEAN RACIAL SLURS, but racist JOKES, why did only 4 people total reply to my post? Even from the four, two openly said that racial jokes are okay as long as you do it privately. I thought racial jokes at all expense is bad, private or not. Even then, they still encouraged racial jokes but not in a public sense. What's the point? It seems as if nobody cares if I tell my racial jokes or not, just you two [kolar & troll king]. Does that really show that the majority, atleast on these forums, do not want a racial joke to be told out of hilarity? For the sake of a laugh? A chuckle? A giggle? A gag? A smirk? C'mon Kolar. Laugh. <<- magi koz smiling because this is funny.

I have no problem with you saying your racist jokes in private, like on a chat channel but thats not what this thread is about, it's about putting it into a public chat for anyone to read. Getting the sense of the majority here based on the number of replys is inaccurate to say the least.

Your disclaimer doesn't mean shit basicly. It has nor will it ever make you unaccountable for your actions. Racism can be put into many forms, jokes,overservations ect... But it has it's same effect. Why not keep it in a chat where your friend will enjoy reading it and not get banned?

[ZeUs!!]

Thread closed. This thread serves no purpose whatsoever, except for Mr Magi Koz posting the blatently stupid and he knows it, and waiting for people to flame him so he can sit back and laugh because deep down he knows he's the cleverest. Furthermore, the continuation of this thread would only serve to act as an antagonist for more people posting racist crap in an immature discussion about an already sensitive topic. The Good Charlotte forums are that way ---->


All this editting and warning may seem a little harsh, but you've all read the rules, and they have to be followed. When these are violated action has to be taken, and they were violated. (Not in that way you dirty little boy)