squad accpetance

[THE ENFORCER]

Lets start with Sarien my location is left blank cause i didnt think it was necessary for people to know where i live okay.... Secondly i am allowed to voice my opinions of rules in fact it is encouraged so dont give me any bullshit that it is free and i cant voice any opnions. Thirdly virgin interactive did most of the work in developing this game tw developers just tweaked it abit. Thirdly if your new how bout playing the game abit and learn how the game works before you pass judgement.

Now with your comments about double squadding.
If everyone has the opportunity to join two sqauds then how is it unfair? also the squadowner has the ability to kick out squad members so if he thinks that a squadmember is bias then he/she can kick him/her out but you would know this if you played the game more often than not.

Now stabwound where the hell did you pull out that statistic of 99% lol, many people share and play contium with their siblings okay so dont assume anything. Also this is not a professional hockey league the reason why the same player doesnt play on different teams also have practicality and money issues. But its completetly relevant here the fact is if a player can join different squads it dramtically enhances the availability for that player to duel (refer to above) and how would it ruin the balance of the league? theres only a certain amount of time each player can play anyway so its not like theirs gonna be ten super teams with the same players in it cause they simply wont have the time to duel everyone. The fact is player descretion plays a big part in this, a player can choose which squad to duel with in thier limited time therefore the balance of the game wont be disturbed. This might sound confusing at first but if you want me to clarify leave me a message and ill get back to you.

And Ewan wtf?

[Troll King]

First of all, CALM DOWN. Going off on a rant isn't going to help your case whatsoever, and only serves to tune people out.

Double squadding is a very serious matter. This isn't a hockey league or other sport league, that's correct, but it's STILL A LEAGUE. It has rules and operates as a professional league would. If you want a better example, look at house leagues, softball leagues and little league ball. Playing for two teams in those leagues isn't allowed either, and those leagues are better comparisons to TWD than professional leagues.

[Stabwound]

The TWD is used to determine which squads are allowed to play in TWL. If, for example, NewbieSquad decides to let 2 elite players from VetSquad doublesquad on their NewbieSquad, it is completely unfair to every other squad in TWD. Refer back to my hockey player example. Pretend the money and practicality issues didn't exist. Would it not be very unfair to every other team in the NHL if some team was allowed to let some of the best players from every other team play on their team?

I agree that doublesquadding lets a player have more oppertunities to play in TWD games, but that is not important at all. The doublesquadding rules are in place to make the league balanced, accurate, and meaningful. If they let people play on 4 seperate squads and dick around like that, you may as well not even run the league in the first place.

[Mattey]

THE ENFORCER embarrased you all with his superior intellect.

[THE ENFORCER]

You didnt read my message stabwound. There are time contraints, a player doesnt have all the time in the world to play 300 different squads he has to prioritize. It is therefore impossible for one single player to dominate or have a serious impact on more than one squad. However it does give them the opportunity to play once in a while for dueling. Even if it that single player in that single game did have an impact on the league by allowing that newbie team in the TWL so what, they will have thier chance to play other teams and will become last on the ladder. Also its unlikely one player will have such a significant role in the teams history, what makes good teams are good players not good player! And its not completely unfair to all other squads in TWD cause every squad will be able to recruit, they all have the same chances.

Troll King the reason why those leagues arent comparable is because they have a different envrionemnt, technology changes matters. The fact is its not practically possible in little league for a player to play for 2 teams (once agian time contraints) however it is over the net. Im sure if it was possible for players to play for 2 teams they would cause they would get more money and make teams more competitive.

Mattey I dont even care that your being sarcastic, i still think your gr8

[Troll King]

It's possible for people to play on two different sports teams, so long as the games don't occur at the same time. The same applies to TW. Logistics isn't the reason that leagues can't let players play for two different house league teams.

And no, dobule squadding won't make things more competitive. You're confusing things a bit here. For the guy playing on two squads, it's more competitive because he gets to play more. For the squads however, it doesn't even have an effect whatsoever, and is probably more likely to have a negative effect.

I think the problem is that you're coming at this from the approach of an individual player. The league however has to operate in terms of teams and what's best for teams.

[THE ENFORCER]

Troll, it is more competitive cause the skill of the squad increases.
And your probably right by time constraints it is likely that the single player will not have an affect at all, so why dont you abolish this rule and solve my problem . My whole approach is from a squads overall viewpoint. How will it have a negative effect?

[Sarien]

Originally posted by THE ENFORCER
Also league access should be available to all and to all squads therefore it should be a right.

I didn't say posting opinions isn't a right (it isn't)
It's encouraged yes but if you needlessly play kick the tiger
in the nuts, don't be surprised when one bites you, or in
the case of TW staff, bans you. And about Virgin Interactive,
Virgin Interactive doesn't pay any of the fees associated with
running TW. Imagine that, someone somewhere is paying
hosting/bandwith/domain fees in order for you to have posted
this thread, let alone play. That means: They make the rules,
not you.

Originally posted by THE ENFORCER
also the squadowner has the ability to kick out squad members so if he thinks that a squadmember is bias then he/she can kick him/her out but you would know this if you played the game more often than not.

Again Common Sense:
You might "think a person is bias" ie find out, too late.
Which just leads to guess what? More people complaining
on the forums. And I dare suspect fewer people would post
a complaint like "wtf why can't I have doublesquadders"
rather than "wtf I want a rematch that dude took a dive"

-Sarien

[Troll King]

Originally posted by THE ENFORCER
Troll, it is more competitive cause the skill of the squad increases.
And your probably right by time constraints it is likely that the single player will not have an affect at all, so why dont you abolish this rule and solve my problem . My whole approach is from a squads overall viewpoint. How will it have a negative effect?

You're missing the point. This is an issue of the integrity of the league. If you play for more than one team, you'll have more than one goal. What happens when those teams play each other? Will you choose the one you like best? Will you sit out?

Take a look at what happened in Elim with mulitple aliases. People began getting two or three names at the top of the ratings. The exact same thing will happen here. How does it increase competitiveness if the top squads are basically the same group of people? It happened in elim and that makes it very likely to happen here too. You might have good intentions about letting people get a chance to play more, but it only takes a few bad apples to spoil things and TW is rife with bad apples.

[THE ENFORCER]

Fine i dont pay the bills your right, but its in your best interests to listen to me if the players dont like the way the game is being played we will leave and then you will be forced to shut down. Do you want that to happen?
Also it is the owners fault for trusting the person, if they become disloyal its the owners fault, no one else. Therefore no re-match.

Dude bring em on i got a rule for every scenario

Troll i just explained to you why that wont happen, it is highly unlikely that the best squads will consist of the same people, they cant possibly have that much time on their hands. Also if your two squads are playing you choose your preferable squad. It is really unlikely that someone will have that amount of time to manipulate the system.

[Sarien]

Good, you've stopped being angry and have started
discussing things rationally. I like that, and as an aside:
For some reason almost every aussie I know is like that.
They scream like blue blazes when they get mad, until
you keep up with them and they calm down, and then
they can have a conversation.
Something in the water maybe?

Yes, I agree, the staff should listen to an extent if the players
don't like the way something is being handled.
However if you look back at this thread, and ask around
you will probably find that the majority of players do like the
rule. And if you managed to get actual statistics and a census
stating otherwise, I'll eat my words. I'll print them out,
and go at it.

-Sarien

[NaiLed]

Originally posted by THE ENFORCER
Fine i dont pay the bills your right, but its in your best interests to listen to me if the players dont like the way the game is being played we will leave and then you will be forced to shut down. Do you want that to happen?

Well everyone seems to be happy except you.

[THE ENFORCER]

Dude im not gonna make a survey and become a statistican.
We can discuss this later, im going to bed.
But can we at least agree that i have put in enough effort, forwarded enough arguments to at least ensure that u guys accept digitale as a squad in TWD? please! i mean come on.

[aussie]

Originally posted by Sarien
Good, you've stopped being angry and have started
discussing things rationally. I like that, and as an aside:
For some reason almost every aussie I know is like that.
They scream like blue blazes when they get mad, until
you keep up with them and they calm down, and then
they can have a conversation.
Something in the water maybe?

Wtf :/

:P
We're not ALL like that ;( Oh, you said that, nevermind

[Mattey]

Originally posted by THE ENFORCER
Dude im not gonna make a survey and become a statistican.
We can discuss this later, im going to bed.
But can we at least agree that i have put in enough effort, forwarded enough arguments to at least ensure that u guys accept digitale as a squad in TWD? please! i mean come on.

No matter how many times you tell me the sky is brown, I'm still not going to believe you.