MMR hosting Abuse and Player Abuse is at an all time High

[cubone]

The stats show that most of the games you have played until clock expiration, you were ahead and you chose to run instead of fighting. There are some games where you had 5+ minutes between kills. There are actual stats of every single event from every round that prove this.

One example out of many:
MatchID 90134464
Vys is left solo after Sunny D eliminated at 13:10 (Score 47-44)
Jessup kills Vys around 13:30 (score 48-44)
Ravage suis Vys at 14:30 and gets eliminated (score 49-45)
Vys kills Jessup at 14:37 (score 49-46)
Vys kills Jessup at 19:45 (score 49-47)
Game ends 49-47

You were up 49-45 1v1 with 5:30 left and you didn't kill Vys a single time. You went 6 and a half minutes without a kill when you only needed 1 kill to win. Instead, you chose to run the clock out. There are MANY examples like this.


If Paky actually did have the lead and ran the clock out and you can't understand why he would be treated differently, I suggest you look at the below. I know you'll stupidly debate it and it doesn't really matter because the stats speak for themselves.

[Jessup]

For a guy who purposely cut me out of the stats page you created for the zone.. you sure are fixated on my stats. Again though, you are a troll and this thread is NOT about how long I stay alive (which is a good thing in order to win games) but about mmr abuse that has reached an all-time high. Pease stop derailing this thread. You cannot justify abuse of players who play within the ruleset and times allotted in a league.

[cubone]

For a guy who purposely cut me out of the stats page you created for the zone.. you sure are fixated on my stats. Again though, you are a troll and this thread is NOT about how long I stay alive (which is a good thing in order to win games) but about mmr abuse that has reached an all-time high. Pease stop derailing this thread. You cannot justify abuse of players who play within the ruleset and times allotted in a league.

Oh did you get removed from the stats? Must have been an accident. Oh well, you said you could do it yourself so I am still anxiously awaiting the stats you've come up with. If hiding while your team gets destroyed 4v5 was a good thing, your rating wouldn't be well below 3000 and people would want to be on your team.

Also, I quite enjoy how I am able to give specific examples proving my point and rather than accepting facts, you pretend it didn't happen. Stats prove that you run constantly and you have no counter for it.

MMR would be significantly better if you were banned. And there is no abuse (other than you wasting everyone's time both in game and in your weekly rants in forum).

Hookecho I thought jessup wasn't supposed to make any more threads about so-called abuse (and trying to set people up by screenshotting a TK). No normal player is screenshotting TKs if they're actually playing the game unless they're trying to lure someone into TKing.

[SprinklePuss]

Jessup definitely gets abused and bullied in MMR. Not even debateable.

[Rab]

Paky just played smart. When you're up against a Jessup, just be a better Jessup. Jessup hates it, and it's an easy win.

Rough does spec and fake lag when he doesn't like his team, seen it several times, his punishment should have escalated by now. I'd say a 6 month mmr ban is fair.

[Jessup]

Paky just played smart. When you're up against a Jessup, just be a better Jessup. Jessup hates it, and it's an easy win.

Rough does spec and fake lag when he doesn't like his team, seen it several times, his punishment should have escalated by now. I'd say a 6 month mmr ban is fair.

I actually wouldn't hate it so much if staff wouldn't selectively kill multiple games that Jessup is in that stretch into OT. It is blatant abuse to do that. Change the clock to less time if 20 minutes is too long. Also, at the same time people will ruthlessly attack me for my death management but never focus on the players who go out super fast. I'll take someone who stays alive and has a score of 6-6 late into the game any day over a player who goes out 6-10 only four minutes into a game.

[MHz]

Jessup, people lash out because you are known to have glaring flaws in your game. If you genuinely want to have a better time playing, here are some pointers:

1) Even good players struggle to win "last out" games. Taking a clean kill whilst out-numbered is really tricky. It's unlikely that people rated between 4* and 7* (i.e. you) are the best candidates for this role.

2) By dying at a significantly slower rate than your team mates, the scoreboard no longer reflects the actual score of the game. The scoreboard might be close, but because you're last in 46-46 with 6 deaths, your team has a 99% chance of losing. In short, you make ostensibly close games unwinnable.

3) In being too passive you are unable to perform the basic functions of teaming. In javelin, teaming is about being close enough to avenge a team mates' death, or pounce on an enemy's mistake. The very best players are able to exploit energy advantages of one missed bullet, precisely because they operate within an optimal range. Because you're not able to punish the mistakes of the enemy, they have carte blanche to attack your team mates.

[Ekk0]

Rampage threatens to sabatoge Jessup's TW CUP season with his buddy captains.


Hellkite purposely kills Jessup while his buddy Bombed then says to ban Jessup


Jessup then gets falsely banned by draft for nothing while hellkite was the sole purposeful teamkiller. Bombed, ekko, draft involved in the coverup.


Immediately afterward Hellkite pms Jessup saying see how easy it is. HE abuses and I am the one who gets a fabricated ban.


Host at encouragement of Bombed and Rampage spam pages of rerolls. Pure troll efforts by hosts/staff.


I could go on and on and on and on and on and on and on to prove multiple instances of sabotage towards myself and others. Rerolling SHOULD not be a thing at all but this was ABUSE.. all of these are proof that my statement last night saying CHEATER POS HOSTS is warranted.

I find it amazing for someone who multiple times complaints about pub abuse violations that you could even try to step in here and spout your nonsense saying that I should be banned for showing this blatant abuse Cubone. Oh ye you are a major troll too....

You addressed me for the following and I choose to respond to clear my name.


1) "Jessup then gets falsely banned by draft for nothing while hellkite was the sole purposeful teamkiller. Bombed, ekko, draft involved in the coverup."

The screenshots show me saying:
"u both r the problem"
& then draft says
"ekko ur hosting, im done"

I was not the host, I did not cover anything up. This little beef you and hellkite have going on is never ending and I do warn people when I see malicious TeamKills. Even as host watching a game there are 10 players on screen at all times and I simply cannot observe everything that happens to issue warnings for every TK.

Additionally sometimes there is no need to warn for a TK. Sometimes when a team is winning by a large margin, players will TK each other at the end in jest and as a "we're gonna win this regardless". MMR points are not awarded on record, only on wins and losses so this doesn't skew anything. I've noticed you will complain and send a help call for every little thing such as this. My advice to you would be that you pick and choose your battles. It's becoming like the boy who cried wolf where when you send a ?help call and report every little thing that annoys you it becomes too tedious to sift through to see if an actual offence is being committed. Yet I do try my best when hosting, this isn't a paid gig and it is my free time I volunteer. I do it out of a love for the game and the community and I want to see good, fair and competitive games at all times.


2)"Host at encouragement of Bombed and Rampage spam pages of rerolls. Pure troll efforts by hosts/staff."
This was a situation where I missed an aliased person with a 3k rating join the queue and I tried to reroll in order to get them the sub. I did this because if I re-open the queue, you'll also whine about that and say that is corrupt and players who don't pay attention and lose their spot also get angry. There is actually no winning with you. If you look at the screenshot you'll see me say the following:

"who are you soul cry? / immda redo this. / wait. / i want soul cry out. / he is 3k and aliased. / who are you."

As I said my goal as host is to see good, fair and competitive games at all times. MMR is a newer format and there are still kinks to work out. I support rerolling as a prize for MVPing in a game as it is a reward and it encourages good performance in the game. I respect that your opinion is different but it is not against the rules and I believe it improves the quality of games being played.

I hope you have a nice day.

[Ekk0]

Hellkite again purposely teamkilling Jessup. One of tons of screenshots showing clear as day proof I am being teamkilled by this guy yet staff does nothing except a game game sit out every 20 games he does this.


Ekko as host killing another OT game with Jessup in before timer runs out. As we have all said. If you desire games to be shorter then change the clock to less time. Cubone using his selective stats to try and say it warrants this type abuse towards me is ridiculous. I am not breaking rules and also staying alive is a good thing. Many of these stats are skewed out of context too. MANY MANY games I have players literally run away from me when they are up by one which causes games to run out. Stop derailing my thread cubone. It is about mmr abuse. Staying in and trying to do my best to win for my team within the clock parameters is NOT illegal.

I killed the game and I stick by my decision, you and whoever else were refusing to fight and it was a tie regardless. If the score was 49-48 or anything that was not a tie I can see how you could make a case for abuse

[Ekk0]

Pakydude running the clock out. No host steps in and kills game like they do when games are tied in my situations showed. Clear preference towards people who truly just run which in both cases where my games were killed was not the case.


Pakydude runs again without even attempting to fight me yet again as clock runs totally out there is no selective game kill by hosts like is done to me in these situations. As I said cubone this has happened multiple times to me and shows your flawed stats. Also look at your posting history. 95% of every post you have ever made are targeted towards trolling players and not adding to anything that truly benefits the zone. I posted this thread to expose the abuse that is going on daily here. Below are more examples of abuse. I can keep going and going too showing proof of how bad this abuse has become.


Rough specs a game for the sole purpose of ruining it. Host then kills game and rough immediately returns. My spot to play is taken away and I get subbed out in a game I waited to play in. Selective abuse to bench players clear as day here. Hosts do not do a thing to rough and allow him to play after ruining game and wasting players time. In my case this directly affected me but I have seen this type thing happen to multiple other players. It is encouraged by the hosts and rewarded as you can see.


Hellkite again tried his best to ruin Jessups rating by throwing a game and going 0-10 in 7 minutes. Luckily rasaq and Jessup and others are able to win despite this. The fact we won does not mean hellkite should not have been dealt with for doing this.. but again, no action was taken towards him.

"Rough specs a game for the sole purpose of ruining it. Host then kills game and rough immediately returns. My spot to play is taken away and I get subbed out in a game I waited to play in. Selective abuse to bench players clear as day here. Hosts do not do a thing to rough and allow him to play after ruining game and wasting players time. In my case this directly affected me but I have seen this type thing happen to multiple other players. It is encouraged by the hosts and rewarded as you can see."

Generally if Rough does this I do block him for at least a game and warn him against it. This type of behaviour is not encouraged or rewarded and is actually punished. I do apologize as it seems he slipped through the cracks with this one, it might have been early days of him pulling this sort of stuff. Can you please let me know the day of this screenshot so I can reference my logs and see what happened afterwards?

[Jessup]

Rasaq and hypocrit threw game.. both sat on top of me all game and rasaq tk me once and tried to kill me multiple other times. Proof afterwards they did it on purpose.

[cubone]

How are you this insufferable? All I see is you claiming rasaq was trying to TK (even though you had as many TKs as he did) and saying hypo threw. I think it's pretty hilarious that people want to play your style and you are upset about it. Why do you continue to play in an arena that clearly nobody wants to play with you? Do you just get off on trying to get people banned and whining about every single little thing that happens that you don't like?

[Jessup]

You literally just finished posting a thread yourself and tried to get a player banned for breaking the rules for using disparaging slur words and then whined yourself about staff doing nothing. I've seen you do this multiple times to multiple people while at the same time treating them like shit. Here you are AGAIN derailing a thread that was about abuse in mmr and how it has gotten out of hand. Every example I posted was proof of abuse. The problem with you is that you are a hypocrite who has no consistency in your moral compass. You are a troll Cubone. I am not lying about this game being thrown by hypocrit and rasaq. Tonight 4 games in a row were thrown. This game was the only one that wasn't killed but hypos score alone shows it was another game just like my screenshot I started this thread with.

In case you have forgotten.


I'm sure you will agree that these players who spout these pejorative slurs towards community members should receive the same fate as you desired for the one in pub you mentioned.

Draft (TW MMR HOST)


Beam (TW TOP WARBIRD EVER)


Best (TW 2nd best WB after Beam)


I have 100's of screenshots showing that this pejorative slur which is illegal to use in our zone has been used freely towards myself and others and when I make calls staff won't come to my aid. You will naturally publicly support me in calling for these players to also be zone banned and perm silenced I assume right? Go jump around on a bridge that you live under troll.

[Rab]

cubone should stop trolling, most of Jess' points in this thread are legit
draft should get host removed and a short ban
beam should be banned for life as this is his millionth offense
best should be banned for life as this is his millionth offense

[cubone]

You literally just finished posting a thread yourself and tried to get a player banned for breaking the rules for using disparaging slur words and then whined yourself about staff doing nothing. I've seen you do this multiple times to multiple people while at the same time treating them like shit. Here you are AGAIN derailing a thread that was about abuse in mmr and how it has gotten out of hand. Every example I posted was proof of abuse. The problem with you is that you are a hypocrite who has no consistency in your moral compass. You are a troll Cubone. I am not lying about this game being thrown by hypocrit and rasaq. Tonight 4 games in a row were thrown. This game was the only one that wasn't killed but hypos score alone shows it was another game just like my screenshot I started this thread with.

I love how every time I post a legitimate response, you deflect or ignore. This is the same thing you've been doing for years.

A screenshot of a bomb near you doesn't prove anything rofl (except that you're clearly trying to set someone up by getting them to TK you). Good players get bad scores sometimes, particularly when they're stuck on a team of really bad players. And again, it's hilarious to me that you want to be able to lob bombs from entrance and fly away from your team while they're stuck 4v5, but you expect everyone else to try their hardest while you do this.

If your brain worked, you would probably reflect and ask yourself "I wonder if there's a reason that no vets want to play on a team with me?". Unfortunately, I know you won't do this and instead you'll just keep ranting about abuse/throwing.

And in classic jessup fashion, when you realize that nobody is listening to you about another made up issue, you start some other rant about something else.