MVP in a timed race game

[Galleleo]

Keep point race/ 30 min game and let the MVP be the one with the most points.

[Cig Smoke]

Keep point race/ 30 min game and let the MVP be the one with the most points.

Thats all fine and dandy but sharks/terr never get mvp, its always a spider. I agree w/ FoN there sho uld be a wa to get them other ships MVPs to bc sometimes a shark wins the game for the team yet its not noticed w/ the mvp, or a terr wins it for the team.

and FoN, there is things that pppl look for ya, but its hard to explain. Myself i look for like jason said in Wb- terkills, in jav how well he breaks the cram/terr kills/group kills, in Shark/shark team u look how well they can hold the cram/how long they can. How well they protect the team, how well they outshark the opposing team. Its usualy shown. In terr u look howgood his ratio is, how low his deeaths are. All those types of things are put into what i look @ hwo good a person/team does but i think it'd be hard to get a bot to look @ all these things and how to do it.

[Randedl]

let the players (or maybe everybody from both squads online) plus the host vote for mvp, mvp has to come from the winning team. . .

ps. jason, a base bird will never have 3:1 in a close game, i have a hard enough time getting 1:1 even when i'm kicking ass.

[Mythrandir]

In the past I've been thinking about implementing some kind of rating system for basing, but I decided that would be no good:

as soon as you start rating performance of each individual ship, you are already determining the role of that ship.
The way we would rate a shark's skill back when lining was popular would be a whole lot different than we would rate that ship now.

And what if a squad developed a strategy in which the bird focuses on killing sharks instead of terriers? Our oh so detailed rating system would not approve of that, and terrier-killing birds will be more 'valuable'.

Whatever rating system we would invent, it will never suffice.

[PredatoR_FNM]

When first timerace match was, i took flag on start and when game ended after 15minutes 900 to 0, i got mvp and yes I was the shark which rushed to flag at the shark.

Well i got mvp as shark there, iv had many with normal rules on base as a shark before too.
Sure i didnt do much else on that match after getting flag and pushing enemy down, spiders took care of the rest.

Well maybe its a vote is good way to determine who's "mvp" in twl or even in base, like bot does arena message that now its time to vote, message me with players name. Then it waits for votes like 10-20 seconds (depens how many ppl in arena probaply..).
Voting will prolly go like the all famous contests goes thought...so it isnt so accurate.

Like somebody said here, dsb has more of stats when game ends, check here for example : http://www.deathstarbattle.com/phpBB...ic.php?t=16909
Ofcourse all ships there is allmost identical and has same purpose, so it cannot be referred straight to tw's settings..

I still like old style where who gets most points gets also mvp, more rewarding

Sorry no time for judge every ship one by one now, ill just say that leave as it is and sharks gets easier some mvp's, just like times before cram ;-)

As a sidenote, it was fun to own nailed who had much more points and kills..

[Force of Nature]

In the past I've been thinking about implementing some kind of rating system for basing, but I decided that would be no good:

as soon as you start rating performance of each individual ship, you are already determining the role of that ship.
The way we would rate a shark's skill back when lining was popular would be a whole lot different than we would rate that ship now.

And what if a squad developed a strategy in which the bird focuses on killing sharks instead of terriers? Our oh so detailed rating system would not approve of that, and terrier-killing birds will be more 'valuable'.

Whatever rating system we would invent, it will never suffice.

I've already thought about that. But I wanted input on it anyway. Besides it would be fairer than the current system by miles.

[Force of Nature]

When first timerace match was, i took flag on start and when game ended after 15minutes 900 to 0, i got mvp and yes I was the shark which rushed to flag at the shark.

Well i got mvp as shark there, iv had many with normal rules on base as a shark before too.
Sure i didnt do much else on that match after getting flag and pushing enemy down, spiders took care of the rest.

Well maybe its a vote is good way to determine who's "mvp" in twl or even in base, like bot does arena message that now its time to vote, message me with players name. Then it waits for votes like 10-20 seconds (depens how many ppl in arena probaply..).
Voting will prolly go like the all famous contests goes thought...so it isnt so accurate.

Like somebody said here, dsb has more of stats when game ends, check here for example : http://www.deathstarbattle.com/phpBB...ic.php?t=16909
Ofcourse all ships there is allmost identical and has same purpose, so it cannot be referred straight to tw's settings..

I still like old style where who gets most points gets also mvp, more rewarding

Sorry no time for judge every ship one by one now, ill just say that leave as it is and sharks gets easier some mvp's, just like times before cram ;-)

As a sidenote, it was fun to own nailed who had much more points and kills..

The MVP in timed race really hasn't been implemented. Even I don't know why MVPs are given out. Well I could find out, but I didn't implement anything. So I don't think that was points.

[Mayo Inc.]

Voting might be cool if you had multiple categories:

Offensive player of the game
Defensive player of the game
Most Points

vote on the top two... seems like a bit much just to pad some egos

[Mythrandir]

I've already thought about that. But I wanted input on it anyway. Besides it would be fairer than the current system by miles.

The current system (MVP for player with most points) is so uber-flawed that only the newest of newbies think it matters. If you're actually going to make an effort in creating a 'fair' rating system, people would care more about it.
So my point still stands.

[Force of Nature]

The current system (MVP for player with most points) is so uber-flawed that only the newest of newbies think it matters. If you're actually going to make an effort in creating a 'fair' rating system, people would care more about it.
So my point still stands.

Don't worry by no means am I advertising that this is going to be the be all and the end all of all the MVP debates. However, it does atleast to some extent put some value back into the stat.

[za gophar]

The current system (MVP for player with most points) is so uber-flawed that only the newest of newbies think it matters. If you're actually going to make an effort in creating a 'fair' rating system, people would care more about it.

i dunno about that. u win mvp a few times in a row and u get picked for the rest of your life with no worries. mvp itself does not mean too much to me, but getting a healthy number of kills does (although it is not the most important thing), and getting mvp shows everyone that you can do that.

[Stabwound]

The MVP in timed race really hasn't been implemented. Even I don't know why MVPs are given out. Well I could find out, but I didn't implement anything. So I don't think that was points.

I've seen a few Time Race games and the MVP is always given out strangely. One time it was given to a shark with a negative record and very low points, and another time it was given to a spider that was playing for like 1 minute, and had 4-1 record.

[Scuggs]

instead of one MVP, it should do like the MervBot flag game does

like

Game over: Winner: Freq X!
---------------------------------------
name squad points wins losses
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Jerome Juice 89538 55 0
[repeat for all playrs]
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Most points: Name
Mos tkills: name
best rec: name
most Td's: name
Most Valubale: name [composed of someone who got more than one award, like most points and most kills]

BUT

tO save space and avoid spam, the bot should do:

Game over. PM Bot with !stats to view game stats.

then bot pm's you.

[Fit of Rage]

Sounds like a cool idea, Jerome.

[Stabwound]

BUT BUT BUT BUT I want a good stat that would be easy for sharks to get.