MVP in a timed race game

[Stabwound]

I'm sorry if I came off as "unappreciative" of the new MVP system. It seems pretty good so far, besides the few problems that have been mentioned. Oh, spiders can still get MVP, but only when they have an excellent game, and usually when they have far more points than anyone else. I do also think that the terrier's formula should be a bit toned down, too. Yeah, I do think that this system is better than the old one, but the ship change problem is pretty big, and pretty much breaks the entire system, IMO.

[Force of Nature]

I'm sorry if I came off as "unappreciative" of the new MVP system. It seems pretty good so far, besides the few problems that have been mentioned. Oh, spiders can still get MVP, but only when they have an excellent game, and usually when they have far more points than anyone else. I do also think that the terrier's formula should be a bit toned down, too. Yeah, I do think that this system is better than the old one, but the ship change problem is pretty big, and pretty much breaks the entire system, IMO.

Banning a ship changed player from getting MVP is trivial since all the ground work has already been done. The only problem is that you need someone to actually code that in. It would take less than an hour but still someone has to be assigned to the job and needs to get it done. Since I'm not actively involved in it anymore, I doubt any changes for the present is going to happen.

Here is a bug list which I think needs to be rectified.

Terr Kill for shark and wb has to be increased to 0.12.

Death for terrs needed to be increased to 0.12 as well. This will balance itself out since they get insane rating boost for kills + points anyway. The point coefficient for terrs needs to be reduced from 0.9points to either .85points.

Ship changes need to be banned from getting MVP

jav needs to be changed to: jav: .5Points * (.05wb + .07jav + .06spid + 0.12terr + .07x + .05lanc + .08shark - .06deaths - .08tks)

These improvements would probably make it a lot fairer to determine MVP however as stated several times before I probably cannot make these changes therefore someone who has access to the bot code needs to take initiative and make these changes. They are trivial changes but still someone has to do it.

[KJW]

I got MVP today and I was playing as a shark..... I was shocked!
Played shark the whole game and had a 1:1 ratio too

Personally I don't care about getting MVP but I do think they are doing a good job tweeking the MVP settings.

[Server]

I would like the bot announcing top 3 mvps with the points they got after every game. (yes i know there's this !rating thing but still)

Instead of telling just the name of mvp it could do (bru is best runner up or something like that :P )

MVP: NAME POINTS
BRU: NAME POINTS
BRU: NAME POINTS

or

*** NAME POINTS
** NAME POINTS
* NAME POINTS

maybe record the mvps and do !top and you see top 5 or 10 mvps of week (amount of mvps)

[Jeansi]

Cool, I just got MVP in shark.
Now I just with I'd know how the different numbers actually affect the score. Is agressive mining good or bad etc.

Isn't that important really I'm not gonna change the way I shark just to get MVP.

[Force of Nature]

Cool, I just got MVP in shark.
Now I just with I'd know how the different numbers actually affect the score. Is agressive mining good or bad etc.

Isn't that important really I'm not gonna change the way I shark just to get MVP.

aggressive mining is better if you don't kill your own team as you get docked for tks hard. I think most people can agree with that.

[lunch3]

From looking at the numbers it seems it is better to kill than it is to die with repels left. Aggresive sharking usually causes u to rep less because u are more concerned with mining, so if that was ur question than yes better be aggressive. It will not affect ur average rep left number by much.

[Kyace]

The new system will use votes at the end of the game to adjust the stat weights for MVP? I'm just wondering, but will weither or not your team wins also be used or is it assumed that the voter will take the win into account when voting? That way non-pointbased stats that are higher on the winning terr will be taken into account. (such as low deaths for a terr)

Edit: Sorry, I meant to say this before, but the idea of bots learning to judge what makes a good player sounds brilliant, as the stats the bots use should evolve over time to reflect changing styles of play.

[BLeeN]

The new system will use votes at the end of the game to adjust the stat weights for MVP? I'm just wondering, but will weither or not your team wins also be used or is it assumed that the voter will take the win into account when voting? That way non-pointbased stats that are higher on the winning terr will be taken into account. (such as low deaths for a terr)

Edit: Sorry, I meant to say this before, but the idea of bots learning to judge what makes a good player sounds brilliant, as the stats the bots use should evolve over time to reflect changing styles of play.

It will make it slower than usual. It can't "judge" people. He only sees variables which are available to him. The learning part means he needs to add his own new variables each time someone gets MVP and even more stuff. Thus it will make it slower.

[Mayo Inc.]

Hmm what about a rating system where people get points for certain actions?
For example getting a terr kill counts as like 1000 points, sharks are like 500m rest 600, flag touches are 1000 etc etc.

My numbers are just off the fly but have a bot calculate a person's score based on what they did in the game, not just flag touches or kills... any thoughts?

[Force of Nature]

Hmm what about a rating system where people get points for certain actions?
For example getting a terr kill counts as like 1000 points, sharks are like 500m rest 600, flag touches are 1000 etc etc.

My numbers are just off the fly but have a bot calculate a person's score based on what they did in the game, not just flag touches or kills... any thoughts?

That is what the current bot is doing except its counting to a different function. In the end the bot can only evaluate given the variables it can measure. So, what it is doing now is the same as what you've suggested. The difference is it calculates the points/rating a little bit different but the general idea is the same.

What is more important thatn given points of functions is what variables should be measured. And what can be implemented to a big extent. Some variables might seem like a great idea but they are a nightmare to implement. An example of this is the multikill. I have a rough idea of how to implement it but it is far complicated than what have been implemented so far.

[Adman]

fix it so that ship switches don't affect this bs, people who go from spider to shark get mvp all the time is retarded, fix it.

[Force of Nature]

fix it so that ship switches don't affect this bs, people who go from spider to shark get mvp all the time is retarded, fix it.

Read post #77 and a couple before

[Server]

Here is a bug list which I think needs to be rectified.

Ship changes need to be banned from getting MVP

Would it be too hard to make it start counting with a fresh start and add that rating to old ships rating.

[Force of Nature]

Would it be too hard to make it start counting with a fresh start and add that rating to old ships rating.

Post 75 answers this question well