Should we raise resolution limits in TWDD/TWJD?

[Stabwound]

As you know, we've raised the resolution limit in TWBD to 1920x1200, which will allow virtually everyone to use their native monitor resolution rather than having to play windowed. You can use any resolution you want up to 1920x1200.

Would you support raising the limits in TWDD and TWJD arenas as well? Would you take advantage of a higher resolution limit, or are you unable to?

You can read a discussion on the matter at: http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?39329

I personally believe it's important to the future of the game to support larger monitors which are quickly becoming the standard. If players use a widescreen LCD monitor larger than the current resolution cap, they must play in windowed mode for TWD or the game looks badly distorted. Also, most other arenas support 1920x1200 at this point, so it's a pain if players have to switch to a lower resolution just to play in TWD. However, we'll ultimately go with what the players want, so please answer truthfully.

[fLaReD]

I cannot go higher than 1280x800, but i don't mind playing against people with higher res. If you pay attention to your radar in jd you pick up on the stray bomb patterns so I don't think this would hurt in twjd.

[Burnt]

Since JD and DD are so different and are pretty much played by different sets of people there should really be a separate poll for each league. I can only really speak for TWDD in this post because I don't play JD too much.

I know some people don't like playing on windowed mode, but when I play on windowed it seems fine (other than it lowering my actual resolution from 1280x1024 to 1248x960) and I know a lot of people who play on windowed by choice.

Originally Posted by Arobas+
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Only 20% have higher than 1280x1024/1440x900 and only 2.75% have 1920x1200. So you're going to have a relatively small group of players with an advantage over everyone else. This advantage will be magnified if and when these high resolution players join the same squads and are facing off against squads with mostly lower resolutions. This will weaken the parity of squads in the zone and cheapen the competitive spirit of the zone by making a squad's resolution a larger factor in who wins and who losses. Resolution is already a big factor, according to arobas's graph 14% are using 1280x800 (laptops i presume) and it's pretty obvious if you pay attention to who is using these resolutions (which I do) that people on that resolution are at a sizable disadvantage in general. So it's already a problem and by increasing the resolution limit it will just magnify it and that will be bad for the zone/TWD in my opinion.

[Stabwound]

I don't think that is an accurate representation of resolution usage of current TWD players. I would be surprised if there are 20,000+ players in all of Subspace, and there certainly aren't that many in TWD.

[Displaced]

overwhelming yes.. its 2010 and were using the same reso we had over 10 years ago...

and no, i cant play at 1920x1200res, but i want to be able to play at 1920x1080 or even 1680x1050.

and i cant stand playing windowed, so im playing on a stretched out 1280x1024 which is just beyond ghastly.

[RageRitual]

Honestly I have been trying 1920x1200 in elim lately. The stats I am getting seem to be the same. You can see further yes but what most people do not seem to consider is the fact that everything is smaller. It is harder to aim, easier to dodge.

I have also tried this in TWBD and find it has no real benefit except when a terr is flying up the tube can see mines sooner. Yea you can see the entire flagroom at once but again things are so small it balances out. Personally I think smaller resolutions have the advantage in TWBD and we have nothing that says they must play at X res or higher.

1440 is much better then 1280 cap but really with 2010 we should just have the res caps set to 0 0 (no res limit). Bigger screens have an advantage with or without a res cap why not just allow them to see the game in better quality then pixelled garbage.

[Turban]

Increasing the resolution in TWJD would be a good move, as the increased resolution will give close to no advantage at all (considering how 95% of the kills are shot close/normal range -- at least if we go by my standards).

oh fuck it, too drunk to write a novel. afk.

[Turban]

just saying it once again (woo):

increase resolution in TWJD.

keep the same resolution (or increase to 1680x1050) in TWDD.

should have those as different polls. TWJD and TWDD have WAY DIFFERENT play styles, and in JD the increased resolution does not help at all (fuck, I can play just fine with 800x600), where as in DD it might have some small advantage (minus the fucking annoying part that you see too much and start to over think stuff).

[Tres]

I use 1920x1080 for most of my other games & applications so naturally I'd love to use it in TW too (without having to esc-q to change it all the time/ get disconnected when arenas don't support it).

When playing FPS's online one player could be playing on 1024x768 while another is on 1920x1200 - you could argue the latter has some advantage but if the game implemented some function to prevent people with higher resolutions playing those with lower it'd lose a lot of popularity fast. You could also boast when advertising TW that it's in full HD

[kthx]

Yes it is 2010, so go ahead and raise the resolution limits to 5000000x500000000 if you want but also since as everyone who is for this said it is 2010, lets also reduce all the lag limits so all the brazillians and europeons can't play because they have too much lag. I think 100ms ping and .5 .5 reflects a 2010 technological era, I mean after all these lag limits were made back when people still used modems.

So since everyone wants to make that next leap to bring continuum into the new century lets go ahead and go all the way and fix the obviously broken lag limits that plague every single league match.

Or maybe you can just stop changing shit and keep the game on the resolution that it was meant to be played on.

[kthx]

Also lets not forget by raising these limits constantly higher you are basically destroying an entire group of players warbirding style IE rushing. It is going to turn every game into a stray fest, it is going to be boring, extremely long games, and is going to nerf a warbirding style that lots of people have been using since they started twdding for the last 6-7 years. It would be like making the resolution limit 800x600 and then telling all the strayers to fuck off. You really need to think about the consequences of decisions and ideas like this before you do them, be a big picture thinker instead of listening to a rowdy minority who haven't played that game long enough to understand what true balance is.

[Jones]

Honestly I have been trying 1920x1200 in elim lately. The stats I am getting seem to be the same. You can see further yes but what most people do not seem to consider is the fact that everything is smaller. It is harder to aim, easier to dodge.

you pretty much hit the nail on the head here. in short, the longer you stay alive the better you are for your team; any good team would be forced to have atleast 1600x1200 as the dominant resolution. skill would be a secondary thing. one more thing, you shouldn't worry, at 1680 i will hit.

ps. raising the limit in twd would be useless if it doesn't change for twl

[daresound]

Raising the resolution cap would have the biggest effect on TWDD matches, and elim too. I fully agree with Kthx. There are players whose strategy is to keep their enemy as far away as possible, and run firing behind them - a cap raise would give those players an advantage in game just as much as lowering the cap raise would give rushers an advantage. Runners will run further, sooner, and longer (as you said rage, it's easier to dodge. and aiming isn't an issue on higher res's for me).
Also, a higher res cap will make it more difficult for newcomers. As your res rises, it becomes more difficult to see bullets (most have no concept of changing bullet gfx) Some newbies coming into the game will naturally choose a higher, maybe highest resolution, thinking it will help them. Instead, they'll die sooner because their experienced enemies are shooting them from further distances with bullets they can't see.

think of wb runners, think of newbies, think of game's original gameplay intention.

[Zizzo]

Yes!

[Turban]

increase resolution in TWJD, it gives no advantage at all.

i don't care what you do in TWDD, warbirds are a bunch of whining cunts anyways. keep the resolution,

i'll keep on playing with 1280x986 resolution windowed in TWD/TWL even if you increased the res to 1980x1200 in TWL. but some people would love to play full screen, so i say go for it. :wub: