Resolution Cap only for TWDD after Final Reset - Poll

[kthx]

I still think we need to discuss Demonic.

[PredatoR_FNM]

Me and kthx agreed on running the vote for a week.

[Crescent Seal]

So when will this be implemented?

[Mattey]

I just finished the thread.

This is even worse than I thought. Do you guys realize how terrible dd's and ld's would be with EVERYONE on a 1900X1440 res? Nobody would die. Games would take damn near an hour, if players were reckless. How can this even be seen as a viable possibility? The people that want no res cap are inherently anti-wb. How did this happen?

Edit: Summa you are the worst.

[Mattey]

When i started this game my res was 1024X768 as was the norm. These ridiculous resolutions make dd's almost unplayable. What is the point of a radar when you can see the whole area the radar covers? The res limit should have never been raised in wbs.

Implement the change now! If not I swear to god tw will go egypt on your hosni mobarak slow change.

[riske]

Give everyone what they want, and use the new bot system to have arena's with different resolution limits.

0 reasons for this to be 3 pages long.

[Burg]

I think that there should be a cap on leagues and division games.
Staff should stop thinking their opinion is better than the general public.
Soon Staff won't have this problem because all of the players will leave and staff will have to fill a big void in their lives.
Cap it!
This is ridiculous...

[Eric is God]

I think that your best chance to grab and keep a new player's interest in any game is to ensure that their initial experience with the more competitive side is both exciting and challenging, without being overwhelming. Assuming everyone uses the same resolution, there should be minimal impact on the sense of "challenge" that new players experience, regardless of whether everyone is playing on 1280 or 1600+ resolution.

Now in terms of excitement, how exhilarating do you think 5 on 5 WB is when all 10 players are on 1600+ resolutions? Even more importantly, most players probably watch at least a handful of TWD matches before deciding to get involved and you really don't want them watching the TW equivalent of North American soccer (no offense to any fans).

Neither side can absolutely prove what impact a res cap would have on the size of TW's community, but I think it would improve the level of excitement in leagues and this zone could really use a boost in that category because we can't exactly count on the game's graphic to provide a thrilling experience.

[kthx]

Summa thats a ridiculous argument, you are suggesting that we are driving away players by capping resolutions in a league that most people don't play until about I would say six months or more into the game. Pubs aren't capped so when they enter the game they can play on whatever resolution they like up to 1900x1200 which is the games maximum. Once they join a competitive league I am sure they can see the sense in having a resolution everyone can use for competitions sake. So anyways, capping divisions and leagues don't make new players quit the game. Besides if you want to go that route like I have said a million times, I would think having to deal with people playing at 300ms and 2.0% c2s and s2c would drive more people away from this game than a resolution cap, especially since nearly everyone in the world has broadband internet now. And lets face it a majority of the people that are in leagues actively also have forum accounts and know how to post, especially with that friendly "go vote on the forums now for resolution limits in twd" message every 30 minutes in a *zoner. Really you are just reaching man. Basically this game has been about skill since it was created not about how much money you have, thats why there are lenient lag limits that let people like Brokenfist and Dak play in division and league, and that is why there have been resolution limits in place for 7-8 years. Res Caps were in place during the golden age of Trench Wars and the height of its population, even though people used the 1900 res 8-12 years ago before it got capped. What you are saying doesn't really hold water.

And Demonic, you told predator something wrong and it took me talking to him for a good 30 minutes to get him to see the sense in doing a poll over trusting you. And we both see the results of that.

[Ganon-Knight]

Personally, I believe uncapping the res for the leagues will kill the game faster, really, as it's just going to lead to a vicious chain of events starting from people with huge resolutions dominating. People who are unable to use those resolution will complain, start forum topics, etc mentioning the unfair advantage the people playing on high resolutions have. Those people will respond by stating that if you want to compete, you'd better toss out the dough to buy the equipment to do so. The complainers will weigh the options and decide a 15 year old game is not worth buying a $100 flatscreen monitor to play competitively.


Let me emphasize that for you. In big ass bold fucking letters.


A 15 year old game.

And, by the way, history has shown how boring TWL becomes when you let people on high resolutions run wild and steal the show. It was bad enough a few years ago when the finals were Thunder vs Quake and the five minute round extension was utilized in full while 200 people were watching two strayers run around in circles refusing to take any risks. Don't amplify that problem further, please.

[Summa]

wait so are you suggesting we dont cap it humid? even though so many people in favour of it?

i do agree with all your points, with regards to your points on hardware, but would need to be able to prove it is actually driving new players away.

so many people are in favor of it?

the very first poll ever made ended up being essentially a 60-40 poll; ever since then they have been spammed to all hell. i don't trust those results at all. i also don't trust any discussion about the pubs on forums, because honestly; how many pubbers are on these forums?

and you can't prove that it is driving new players away because there aren't many new players coming in. and how the fuck do you quantify dissatisfaction? you wanna make a survey? that'll go over well! however its simple marketing, the less accepting you are, the less likely they are to come back. if i change from pub to TWDD and get dropped for my res, you really think i am gonna want to go back to TWDD?

if you believe all growth in the game has stagnated and you think this is the final community that will soon die, then by all means go ahead and appease the few who throw hissys. but if you believe that there is even relatively a chance for future players, then i suggest you don't drive them out for having too nice of a computer

[Demonic]

100% of Americans want lower taxes, but that doesn't necessarily make that a good idea either.

A change in resolution will effect population. You cap resolution, and you make a fraction of our community happy, while driving out a few salty ppl who said they would quit if it was capped. You also become less welcoming to new players who are forced to limit their hardware capabilities to please some forum spammers.

If don't cap resolution (at least as it pertains to TWDD), I don't see nearly as many consequences. Once you put the maximized resolution into competitive areas (TWLD), you may have problems with small portions of the community refusing to play or quitting.

In my eyes, it isn't even a choice. You let people use the hardware they purchased rather than strap a ball and chain to their ankle, particularly during the times when it really doesn't mean shit. Because strapping that ball and chain will have far more obviously harsh consequences than not.

wait so are you suggesting we dont cap it humid? even though so many people in favour of it?

i do agree with all your points, with regards to your points on hardware, but would need to be able to prove it is actually driving new players away.

[Summa]

over half of the population wanted no resolution cap when over 75% of the people here said they wanted it capped.

100% of Americans want lower taxes, but that doesn't necessarily make that a good idea either.

A change in resolution will effect population. You cap resolution, and you make a fraction of our community happy, while driving out a few salty ppl who said they would quit if it was capped. You also become less welcoming to new players who are forced to limit their hardware capabilities to please some forum spammers.

If don't cap resolution (at least as it pertains to TWDD), I don't see nearly as many consequences. Once you put the maximized resolution into competitive areas (TWLD), you may have problems with small portions of the community refusing to play or quitting.

In my eyes, it isn't even a choice. You let people use the hardware they purchased rather than strap a ball and chain to their ankle, particularly during the times when it really doesn't mean shit. Because strapping that ball and chain will have far more obviously harsh consequences than not.

[Demonic]

Well if you didn't do a whole survey and only talked to a few people how the fuck do you get a general consensus good enough to tell the head of TWD that the players don't want a capped resolution? It sounds to me like you should have done some more fucking research, even though there was already plenty on the forums with two polls up and dozens of posts saying that people wanted a capped TWD. It seems to me like you either lied or are incompetent, I don't know which one you would like to say you did or are but fuck man how do you screw up this big?

screw up? hardly.

i didnt increase res, it was done long before i was on the scene. I said to pred we should keep, and we agreed. However pred also agreed to poll'ing it, which in light of the massive votes against, i can quite happily hold my hands up and say i was wrong Also to be honest, i didnt notice other poll until it was mentioned to me (by you?) last week.

anyways enough of the bitching, now is the time to do something about it.

[kthx]

Well if you didn't do a whole survey and only talked to a few people how the fuck do you get a general consensus good enough to tell the head of TWD that the players don't want a capped resolution? It sounds to me like you should have done some more fucking research, even though there was already plenty on the forums with two polls up and dozens of posts saying that people wanted a capped TWD. It seems to me like you either lied or are incompetent, I don't know which one you would like to say you did or are but fuck man how do you screw up this big?