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  • #31
    well good, we'll keep him
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    • #32
      I found when I watch you guys play that Spybreak actually makes it EASIER for your aggressive spiders. It's not like he just steals all their kills and they have the hard job... he just seems to be supporting the pushing, but just not dieing like the rest are

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      • #33
        Exactly, he can wear away at the attackers, and it's continuous, because he rarely dies. Versus WR, Spybreak got 15 deaths. That's one death a minute. He got asmany kills as holydude, with half the deaths. You might think this is unfair towards holyman, but what spy does is he benefits the whole team by taking out one or two ships when they attack- that puts the other team down a few shipsw for a few seconds, which can make or break an FR attack. As you can plain-as-day see, it obviously did. WR got like, what, 4? 5? entrances into the FR. They only touched that flag once during those attempts. He's obviously a key factor. It's hard to explain, but ya gotta watch him. It's the diversity, I think. We have a great pusher in holyman, then 3 really powerful spids (neth / nosey / sol / cc / synicle / etc) then finish off the combo with spybreak, who stays back. That way, the defenses become 'layered', because once you get past holyman you have the 3 spids, then spy break. By the time they get to spy, the other spids have respawned and attached.
        Last edited by Jerome Scuggs; 06-21-2004, 04:12 PM.
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        • #34
          in basing there are tons of times when getting a certain kill is far more important than living. i have no problem with defensive play, and im not just basing what im saying on his records, because ive watched him play several times and witnessed tons of times when a critical kill would have been worth far more to his team than the saving of his own life but he saved his own life anyway by running to regain energy. you guys say that his camping helps the other spids...then why does not a single other spid on their team have one game over 110 kills? (maybe there is 1 or 2 that i missed, but still the point stands that other spids on his team have had very low kills.) he is vulching their kills from a distance and using them as the fodder, that is all that is happening....if that is what is working for their team then so be it. BUT the fact still remains that hes not willing to sacrifice a death for the team at times when it is beneficial to do so. he is a rec whore in every sense of the word. if there is a choice between a terr threatening spider and a no reps left shark floating off to the side...hes shooting at the shark, guaranteed. i think in the second half of the season which is much more difficult for them, it will begin to hurt them and his team will change their tune.

          anyway, ive already spent too much time talking about this now. camp and whore away, if your squad does well 2nd half of this season ill be converted.
          Last edited by Escalate; 06-21-2004, 03:00 PM.
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          • #35
            Then why aren't we complaining? Seems the only people bitching are the people not on his team. We love him, he's a big help.
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            • #36
              You're team doesn't run 5 spiders.
              The only TWO TIME TWLJ All-Star and TWLB All-Star who never played a game.

              Originally posted by Richard Creager
              All space detectives come armed with tcp/ip persona blasting pistols, it's required for their line of duty. Silly of both maisoul and goddess to not know this before hand, they get what they deserved, fucking zapped, bitches.

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              • #37
                We beat you with 5 spids, silly

                edit: oh, and if you think none of our spids have gone over 110 or whatever, check the stats.
                Last edited by Jerome Scuggs; 06-21-2004, 03:03 PM.
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                • #38
                  What the hell are you talking about jerome? I said to beez that they wouldn't play spy because they don't run 5 spiders.
                  The only TWO TIME TWLJ All-Star and TWLB All-Star who never played a game.

                  Originally posted by Richard Creager
                  All space detectives come armed with tcp/ip persona blasting pistols, it's required for their line of duty. Silly of both maisoul and goddess to not know this before hand, they get what they deserved, fucking zapped, bitches.

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                  • #39
                    DTTR 70-5 vs. Melee.
                    sdg

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                    • #40
                      oh, then nvm, didnt realize who you were talking to. quote 'em
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                      • #41
                        What I see is that Spybreak plays extremely defensive(camps) and A-s has adapted to it and made it efficient, but he wont sacrifice himself even when it benifits the team. He will just run away from danger while his teamates pay. He isnt a Terr anymore so it doesnt do the team any good if hes the only one alive. If he would take one for the team every now and then, well then u got an even greater force to reckon with.

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                        • #42
                          Camping spiders arent very helpful for the team :down:

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                          • #43
                            You guys really don't understand. I sacrifice myself all the time and it doesnt change a godamned thing. Same with other spids, when I watch them. He does more good camping than he does sacrificing. We've got other spiders to do that.
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                            • #44
                              Jerome you obviously know shit. Camping spiders arent helpful for a bit weaker teams... I love spy for twlm, but i hate his style... It's not helping your team really.

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                              • #45
                                Look, you guys are assuming that Spybreak! doesn't play for A-S. He fits in perfectly for A-S. I dont give a shit about campers. It's spy were talking about. I'm arguing that Spy benfits his team and outlining specific warrants as to why I'm right, you guys are spewing generic anti-camper shit which might or might not be right, but doesnt apply to the specific argument at hand.
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