TWLB Prediction

[tahkis]

you only looked at a longer time scale cuz it made your status look better...fact is, you guys havent been performing well as of late. not that that takes anything away from your squad being a solid basing squad, but you havent played as well...

In fact we haven't even played that much lately. Many squads have only games from this month in first 2 pages, we have games from early december in those pages.

[Noah]

Sk8 will totally suprise the arrogant pure-basing fuckhead squads, maybe TeKs will do it as well..

Ancients will die and rot in hell

[Zerzera]

I almost get scared. I can't help it that even in TWBD we have to face people playing 5 spiders 90% of their games. We put some effort in playing 3-1-1 and 4-1 lineups. I know in this TWD I played 19 warbird games, 2 javelin games and only 14 spidergames. Most of the time I didn't even play TWBD because I would care less. As long as the mayority of our roster consist of people that just enjoy playing and would care less about the "respect of other players" factor I am happy.

And about sharking, I agree with Windreaper, the best games a team with me in shark played were when I and my partner had about 0 kills. If you know how to lock the enemy in and keep your own team safe you don't need to take any risks with mines.

[Ephemeral]

And about sharking, I agree with Windreaper, the best games a team with me in shark played were when I and my partner had about 0 kills. If you know how to lock the enemy in and keep your own team safe you don't need to take any risks with mines.

Respectfully disagree. It is not uncommon for a team to get a commanding lead and push the other team completely out of base. In those situation sharks will mine down in the base main entrance, these lower mines get repelled upwards and sometimes team-kill.
If fact, the statistical numbers that I have looked at reveal that often the number of shark team-kills goes up for the winning team sharks in lop-sided games because of this.

I used to ask before each game exact how many enemy kills the team wanted me to get. Any boob can keep their fingers off the mining keys, it is simply a question of how aggressive the team wants a shark to be. Sika, for example, is very aggressive and his terrier and team know how to play with that tendency. (Insert lag comments here.) I also think it is important to consider the team-kills/enemy terrier kills ratio a shark can achieve.

Funny thing, after all these years of asking exactly how many kills the team wanted me to have for each game, I have rarely heard anyone answer me. They say things like, ‘just play’. I guess that way it is much easier to flame/blame the shark after the game. lol

[ogron]

mining in lower can cause the opposing team great pains, i agree.

aggressive sharks and terriers can shift the tide of a close game (especially if they lag )

[Asmodeus]

My observations...

Sk8
Hmm, i cant comment on these guys. One minute they suck, next they are owning you. Who knows?

lol, thanks Xu.

[Nickname]

Sk8 was never owning in TWLB. They're a quality squad and will put up good opposition but they have no chance of owning the league this year.

[PaulOakenfold]

And about sharking, I agree with Windreaper, the best games a team with me in shark played were when I and my partner had about 0 kills. If you know how to lock the enemy in and keep your own team safe you don't need to take any risks with mines.

I know that's about the opposite with me. The best games I've played are when have plenty of kills (including TKs) and 2+ Teks. However, I know it's the opposite for a shark like Gabrahm or you, who feel more comfortable keeping their finger off the trigger button. That's okay too, and that's what makes sharking still exciting. Everyone that's considered a "respectful shark" this season (and last) still have their own style of sharking for the most part.

[Kings]

I almost get scared. I can't help it that even in TWBD we have to face people playing 5 spiders 90% of their games. We put some effort in playing 3-1-1 and 4-1 lineups. I know in this TWD I played 19 warbird games, 2 javelin games and only 14 spidergames. Most of the time I didn't even play TWBD because I would care less. As long as the mayority of our roster consist of people that just enjoy playing and would care less about the "respect of other players" factor I am happy.

And about sharking, I agree with Windreaper, the best games a team with me in shark played were when I and my partner had about 0 kills. If you know how to lock the enemy in and keep your own team safe you don't need to take any risks with mines.

LOLOLOL ZZ, THATS CALLED CAPTAIN ABUSE.....
anyways, yeah you guys fooled around alot intwd, but what if you already practiced your teaming a lil bit? you should know practice makes perfect.
AND YOUR EURO LAG ISN'T FAIR. Good luck on sunday.

[GHB]

Sk8 was never owning in TWLB. They're a quality squad and will put up good opposition but they have no chance of owning the league this year.

Yeah, we have never owned in TWLB, but we only played one season anyways. I believe that sk8 can at least get into the playoffs, their roster is way better now than the one last season, so.. prepare to get asdf

[Windreaper]

I know that's about the opposite with me. The best games I've played are when have plenty of kills (including TKs) and 2+ Teks. However, I know it's the opposite for a shark like Gabrahm or you, who feel more comfortable keeping their finger off the trigger button. That's okay too, and that's what makes sharking still exciting. Everyone that's considered a "respectful shark" this season (and last) still have their own style of sharking for the most part.

Sigh, this wasn't intended to become a mining debate by any means. What I was implying, that I consider it generally dangerous to leave mines hanging around unless you know for sure they'll be removed asap. For that reason I mainly rush mine or mine right after nmy shark has repped so that I know where it's going.

I kill on average 16 peeps a game (with 2-3tks, one sloppy game with 6). Paul averages at 12 (albeit with only 14 games under his belt), Epheremal at 15 and Stabwound at 21 (by the virtue of his mad bombing skills - he cram fer's at least twice each and every game - his mining is very sensible). I just can't see where I'm losing out by not mining blindly.

Also, take into account, that for each statistical tk, there are plenty of cases where you emp one or more of your teammates just for that chance to kill one measly nmy spid. I'll rather just tank and let my spids do the killing rather than risking the tks. In other words "most of the time you're better off not mining" meant simply, that there are often more risks involved in mining compared to potential gain. That's how I see it.

However, as someone mentioned above, "every shark worth mentioning" has his own distinct style. In other words, I'm wasn't trying to impose any norms or anything, just pointed out to Kings, that it might not be necessarily bad if his team shark didn't like to mine too much.

[Server]

playoffs? Not gonna happen.

[Zerzera]

Disoblige is 3-1 vs. Incuria
Juice is 4-3 vs. Incuria
RB is 5-3 vs. Incuria

I only played a full game in 2 of these losses (RB by 10 seconds and vs RB with a 3-1-1 line) You should know that the difference between a loss and a win is me. ROFL

[ogron]

I only played a full game in 2 of these losses (RB by 10 seconds and vs RB with a 3-1-1 line) You should know that the difference between a loss and a win is me. ROFL

hehe :grin:

[Aura]

I bolded everything that was relevant to my argument and to this thread. You're making predictions about TWL games yet you've never played in a TWL
yourself, which was my sole point in the end of my previous point.

I would question even the wiliest of veterans for making such bold claims about other legitimate basing squads (" The people who didn't make the list have no potential to do anything good in TWLB"), but the fact you've never been in TWL and experienced it leaves me to wonder how you can make such assumptions, which is why I mentioned it.

And yes, as some have mentioned, stats are definitely not an overly reliable measure of how teams will do come TWL, but they're certainly an indicator. To imply that none of these squads will do well when in the past month or so they've all bested you (I honestly didn't check further back than 2 pages, and the further you go back the less accurate stats become anyways) overall.

Incuria's past TWL record isn't meant to be used as an indicator that you'll lose in similar fashion this year, but that a season is extremely unpredictable and even Shriek, in their half season, managed to defeat a basing squad such as yourself. You say Venom won't even come close to winning, but look at Syndicate (similar squad/roster), they beat you as well last season.

All these points I've made certainly aren't concrete evidence as to what will occur, but they are sufficient enough to question the validity of your over-the-top claims about those squads. The fact you reply to my critism with such zealous ferocity and exaggerated personal attacks on myself and my squad is just further proof that you're arrogant and immature, and not the best canditate to be making these kinds of predictions.

Just because we were friends on Melee doesn't mean that I'll ignore your staunch criticism of established squads that deserve better.

I can make these claims because I have played against these squads and know the players and what they are capable of. I'll give you an example of good predictions without playing against the squads. Look at the nerdy statistics guys for profesional sports. Some of them have probably never played a single game in the sport they cover, but by looking at stats and knowing what people are capable of can make intelligent predictions on how people/teams will do. I might not have played in a TWL game, but I've been on TWL squads during the season for the last two TWLs, and watched the two before that. I have been around this game since 98' playing in different zones. I know this game. It is ignorant for you to say that I can't make predictions because I have never played a TWL game before.