Heracy vs Lifeban

[Abnormal]

Basically chao said that paradise and kira couldn't play because they were on the do not play list, but the list is talking about "paradise lost" and "K I R A" So we tried checking and right as we ran out of time found out that paradise could play. This caused us to waste our first sub to put him back in. Then later statis was subbed by tamzin, who after going 0-2 should have been subbed, but instead went to 0-4 because we already used our two subs. Considering how close the game I think this could have turned out differently.

The transcript below has been edited because it was a twl match and there's a lot of spam, but I have the full text saved.

Chao <ER>> yo
Chao <ER>> Kira and Para cant play
paradise> why cant i
Kira_Yamat> i cant?
Chao <ER>> You're on the list
Zazerick> wtf are u talking about
Chao <ER>> The "You cant play this week" list
paradise> what list?
Zazerick> u keep talking like that, ppl are gonna quit tw
paradise> FOR WHAT
Zazerick> nobody else is gonna play
Kira_Yamat> we quti tw
Kira_Yamat> after this
Zazerick> its the same ppl all the time
HeraCY is ready to begin
vys> http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=31757
Geio> remove kira or free win.
Weak> para
trigo jr> kira nad paradise CAN play
Weak> get in spec
paradise> WTF IS THIS LIST
paradise> IM WINDOWED
Weak> U CANT PLAY if u not on a squad
Weak> for 2 weeks
Weak> or something
paradise> IM ON A SQUAD DUMSHIT
vys> http://forums.trenchwars.org/showthread.php?t=31757
Weak> NOT FOR 2 weeks
Weak> jackass
Lagua> there is a week waiting proces
vys> please remove paradise and kira
paradise> im fukin making a revolution after this
Geio> forefit if they play
vys> before ic all the ss police
paradise> revolution incoming
1:holy cleric> i dont think they are kidding
1:holy cleric> o.O
1:Quizzical> me tiehr
1:statis> kidding about what?
1:HL> ffs
1:holy cleric> that thread has lists for each squad
1:HL> i looekd on site
lifeban is ready to begin
1:HL> they are not on ther
1:statis> they aren't
NOTICE: 1 minute remaining.
HeraCY is NOT ready to begin
1:statis> there are lists
HeraCY is ready to begin
krack> gl both teams
1:Kira_Yamato~> i saw it 2
1:holy cleric> o.o
1:statis> para isn't
Geio> LOL
1:reability> wtf
vys> if you ready
Geio> heracy not following rules
Weak> LOL if u rdy
Eddie> were both ready
Weak> u lose
vys> you forfeit
Eren> heracy will lose
1:Tamzin> para cant play...
Geio> $$$
1aradise> QWHY not
megaman89> heracy forfeits
1:statis> ar eu serious?
megaman89> idiots
paradise> seriously
Weak> gg.
Eddie> D:
paradise> why cant i play
paradise> this is retarded
1:Tamzin> its on pascones list...
Weak> U HAVENT BEEN ON SQUADL ONG ENUFF
HeraCY is NOT ready to begin
1:Kira_Yamato~> remove para?
dEAN> STUPID PARADISE
century> ya
HL> Y IS PARA ON LIST?
1:statis> omfg im looking
dEAN> WHY U SO VIRGIN
paradise> JESUS CHRSIT
1:Tamzin> u have to or we forfeit
1:reability> remove him
dEAN> GO AND RAPE SOMEONE
century> owned them
HL> HE JOINED LONG TIMKE AGO?
Weak> THE RULE HAS BEEN IN PLACE
Weak> UR 2 NEW
vys> ."your squad will be dqed and forfeit the game. the captains and the player should know that they can't play since there are lists that everyone can see"
1:Tamzin> remove him
holy cleric in for HeraCY
1:Kira_Yamato~> whos playing for sawa?
1:Airfare> says paradise sunset
1:Airfare> not paradise
FluB> is paradise the same one as paradise sunset?
Weak> kira
Weak> get in spec
Time is up. roster are OK.
Both teams are ready, game starts in 30 seconds
1:reability> and then sub him in if they are just mofos
Weak> or u lose
Weak> LOL
Weak> LOLOL
Weak> GGG
Eddie>
dEAN> FFS
dEAN> BLUEOUT
HL> THATS PARADISE SUNSEt
Weak> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Eren> myn pwns
Weak> GG
HL> GOd
dEAN> BLUEEEEOUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Weak> LOOOOOOOOOL
Weak> we win
Blueout has been enabled. Staff, don't speak in public from now on.
HL> HE CAN PLAY
holy cleri> :<
HL> THATS PARADISE SUNSEt
Airfare> exactly
Go go go!
holy cleric has been substituted by paradise, with 10 deaths left
to chao: abnormal> you lied, paradise can play, paradise sunset can't
reability> holy... u have been the one to get in to get subbed out
Airfare> shh
paradise> come on move
to chao: abnormal> we wasted a sub for that
Tamzin> is it 1 sub or 2 ?
abnormal> try the second
Tamzin> caps have to do it :S
Tamzin> stat -4 :S
Children has been substituted by Slaughter, with 4 deaths left
statis has been substituted by Tamzin, with 4 deaths left
Tamzin is out. 0 wins 4 losses
Vah is out. 6 wins 10 losses
paradise is out. 13 wins 10 losses
Zazerick is out. 5 wins 10 losses
HL is out. 8 wins 10 losses
Kira_Yamato~ is out. 15 wins 10 losses
Blueout has been disabled. You can speak in public now.
Result of HeraCY vs. lifeban: 46 - 50
,---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+----.
| K | D | TK | Rating | LO |
| ,------+------+------+-----------+----+
| HeraCY / 43 | 50 | 0 | 1255 | 0 |
+------------------------' | | | | |
| HL 8 | 10 | 0 | -24 | 0 |
| holy cleric 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Kira_Yamato~ 15 | 10 | 0 | 936 | 0 |
| paradise 13 | 10 | 0 | 547 | 0 |
| statis 2 | 6 | 0 | -54 | 0 |
| Tamzin 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Zazerick 5 | 10 | 0 | -150 | 0 |
+---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+----+
| ,------+------+------+-----------+----+
| lifeban / 50 | 46 | 3 | 1874 | 1 |
+------------------------' | | | | |
| Children 1 | 6 | 0 | -38 | 0 |
| Dragonscale 15 | 9 | 0 | 1043 | 1 |
| Eddie 10 | 9 | 2 | 15 | 0 |
| Erection 15 | 8 | 1 | 985 | 0 |
| Slaughter 3 | 4 | 0 | -9 | 0 |
| Vah 6 | 10 | 0 | -122 | 0 |
`---------------------------------+------+------+-----------+----'
lifeban wins this game!

[MetalHeadz]

Who cares....fuck I'm not reading that.

[Mela]

Owned

[Abnormal]

Rematch?

[Chao.]

Abnormal: I did in fact make a mistake on who Kira was and got the wrong paradise when I was reading the list Pascone made. It was a really close game for most of the match and with a sub there might have been a different outcome for it. If the higherups decide to let you rematch, i'll gladly host it for you or whatever else is needed. I did not mean to cause you any problems and this was my fault.

[Paky]

No rematch. You just mad because you got serious sam'd. =/

[Abnormal]

Abnormal: I did in fact make a mistake on who Kira was and got the wrong paradise when I was reading the list Pascone made. It was a really close game for most of the match and with a sub there might have been a different outcome for it. If the higherups decide to let you rematch, i'll gladly host it for you or whatever else is needed. I did not mean to cause you any problems and this was my fault.

Thank you chao, I didn't think you did it intentionally, I think there was just a lot of confusion.

[Vys]

This is retarded, i never meant to add children, but with all the drama before hand i didn't have time to !remove children and !add slaughter, but i gave children benefit of the doubt and let him play for abit, but he did terrible and went 1-6, so i subebd in slaughter, whom i hopped to be my original choice, but i couldn't play him due to playing utter newbies on Heracy, who believe everything that comes out of an ex-lifebanned cheaters mouth, gg for being gullable and failing at reading. -vys

[Weak]

you nerds should of checked it yourself
not my fault ur a bunch of gullible fucks
gg
nice 3fer erection
and u should know when ur members joined
dont blame chao for this
cuz u got owned

[paradise!]

uve gotten be fukin me vys

[Abnormal]

This is retarded, i never meant to add children, but with all the drama before hand i didn't have time to !remove children and !add slaughter, but i gave children benefit of the doubt and let him play for abit, but he did terrible and went 1-6, so i subebd in slaughter, whom i hopped to be my original choice, but i couldn't play him due to playing utter newbies on Heracy, who believe everything that comes out of an ex-lifebanned cheaters banned, gg for being gullable and failing at reading. -vys

Then you shouldn't be afraid to play again with your better line.

[Vys]

You may not be aware of this but lifeban is a 2 league squadron, your squad may of been created for twlj and to get sonned in every game you'll play, but my squad has an ld shortly, and we dont have time to play newbie warbirds turned javs in ?go javs in-a-week. So accept you got owned..oh may i add 3fer, nice catch paradise . Thanks for playing Heracy, have fun in subspace. -vys

[Left_Eye]

This is only to be construed as a defense of those that are on Heracy. I don't know the squad, but there is absolutely no reason to bash them for something that they deserve.

Actually, for those of you that are complaining, you do have the right to complain. The host should have read the ineligible list correctly. After reading this, I went back and checked it. It clearly says "paradise sunset". Before assuming they are the same person, he should have asked a TWL Op or a SMod+ to check to see if they are the same person. In my opinion, this game does have a right to be replayed due to a host error. That's just my opinion though. It doesn't mean anything since I'm not part of TWL Staff. But they do have a right to complain. It was a hosting error. Nothing more than that.

[NewbOfTW]

1:HL> ffs
1:HL> i looekd on site
1:HL> they are not on ther
HL> Y IS PARA ON LIST?
HL> HE JOINED LONG TIMKE AGO?
HL> THATS PARADISE SUNSEt
HL> GOd
HL> HE CAN PLAY
HL> THATS PARADISE SUNSEt

Cutting out the messages i said. I tried to explain it to the rest of the ppl in twlj. And ofcourse, they were being persistant and made us remove paradise. I was pretty frustrated. I guess it was partly our fault as well. Zazerick got scared by the threats to remove us from twl or to make us forfeit and removed para then added holy cleric.

[Eddie]

In my opinion, if you were certain that the players that were in, were allowed to play, you should either have left them in or communicate better to the host.

You for CERTAIN should not have played the WHOLE game. You should have stopped the game by talking to host or just by speccing. What would have happened if you would have won? There wouldn't have been a problem.

All your panicking, screaming and shouting did not contribute to the game starting well.

It might be the host's fault that he did not tell you before start who could play. BUT it was up to you to STOP the game when he knew what was going on. You didn't complain then. You played the whole game, and now you start this afterwords.

1:HL> ffs
1:HL> i looekd on site
1:HL> they are not on ther
HL> Y IS PARA ON LIST?
HL> HE JOINED LONG TIMKE AGO?
HL> THATS PARADISE SUNSEt
HL> GOd
HL> HE CAN PLAY
HL> THATS PARADISE SUNSEt

Cutting out the messages i said. I tried to explain it to the rest of the ppl in twlj. And ofcourse, they were being persistant and made us remove paradise. I was pretty frustrated. I guess it was partly our fault as well. Zazerick got scared by the threats to remove us from twl or to make us forfeit and removed para then added holy cleric.