TWL and the desperate make over it needs.

[Ricko]

maybe to assess who is invited to twl we could have the top 12-14 squads in each respective twd ladder have their captains interviewed by twl ops to see if their interests are true and they are unlikely to dissolve, aswell as this twl ops could look through squads rosters and see if they arent full of squadhoppers by looking at their squad history. Just a random idea that came to mind

[Kim]

I think a lowered # of 30 players on roster should suffice. As long as we take baby steps to reducing roster size, there shouldn't be a problem. Squads will adapt.

[Mantra-Slider]

you are right zeebu, lets have another twl season with numerous of squads dissolving or what not midseason fucking up the league again. Maybe this time we can beat the record!!

[Zeebu]

reward activity, not inactivity

if you dont want to be bothered to play the game anymore, you shouldnt get a free pass to the leagues.


and i agree that if we keep the same format, drop the number of squads that are invited.

if you insist on keeping the same number of squads, drop the TWL roster limit by 5 or 10. or, make it depend on # of leagues the squad attends.

[Mantra-Slider]

and here I thought that last season would finally prove once and for all why league stability with serious squads that dont dissolve 24/7 would be the best thing for the league. oh well lol, guess you will never learn

[Kid Kaos]

Ya I still think you need to compete to get into the league. Wud not be as fun if all same 8 squads just hogged the show.

[megaman89]

max roster size at 25, keep squads allowed into TWL the same.

disagreed.

[Scoop]

max roster size at 25, keep squads allowed into TWL the same.

agreed.

[eelam <tw>]

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max roster size at 25, keep squads allowed into TWL the same.

[pascone]

Lots of you are barking out the same 'suggestions' and 'ideas' time after time for leagues to come. How many different ways can you say 'Fewer squads in TWL'. What about taking it one step further? Perhaps...elaborate? Or, you could think about it from another viewpoint?

Not to mention, some of you just have major hardons for simply throwing a wrench into the mix. Or, just love complaining, want to get your simplistic views in, or just have a personal grudge against someone for a completely unrelated reason. Therefore not wishing to miss an opportunity to fight with or bring them down. There must always be a devils advocate, but man, some of you take it to a whole nother level.

Fewer squads in TWL:

Not a bad suggestion at first. Sure, there would be more active people free for the taking, but there is a reason some of the 'active players' dont get on these squads in the first place. They suck or arent in the 'group'. This hope of being for the better could easily backfire. We enforce this new rule. Now what? The season is shorter? Less chances for upsets (in any way shape or form)? Do we play each squad more than once (ZzzZzz)? You still can only have 35 people on the roster for TWL. How about squads just recruit those mediocre players that would have been on another squad in any season prior? Thats practically what will need happen with this rule for it to be effective.

You could save all this trouble by just getting those inactive and unreliable players off your TWL roster in the first place and find somewhat suitable replacements.

Smaller roster sizes:

You are still going to have the same sorta squads recruiting worthless players simply for their name. People are so afraid of recruiting new players or taking the chance to explore new talent. What will this lead to? Squads qualifying for TWL, the members of that squad losing interest, and BAM, another dropout and series of forfeits. People are so set on who they will squad with.

Or, we institute this rule sooner and give plenty of time for people to realize it and implement it into their squads before TWL. This could also mean higher competition because players will be forced to become more than a one ship wonder. Competition boost perhaps? Activity as well? This could allow for a new wave of 'good players'.

Multiple rounds throughout the season:

Please. No. The games are already long enough as is. We simply dont have enough staff willing to host the games. Or, enough time in the day. The only reason the games were hosted as promised so well this season was because we were fortunate enough to have the same few staff members willing to host the games all the time. Now, this will more than likely lead to people saying 'well, its staffs job' or 'get staff members who will do this then'. Weve had this discussion before many times. It wont happen. That is, unless someone with the power mans up and institutes the changes.

If all of these changes dont work, having multiple rounds could result in even MORE no-shows. Devastating to the league.

Taking shots and criticizing TWL Ops:

This really needs to be toned down a bit. Especially in regards to pascone. Without some of these people, lots of these seasons and features would not be available to us. Not to mention, pascone hasnt done a bad job. Do you not remember TWL's from the past? I think this season (some decisions and events aside) has gone through much better than others. Dont you remember how hard it was to get a response from an Op in the past? Pascone has been pretty good with this. Hell, he even takes the time to debate things with players. Hes stuck around, despite the criticism. This allows for a better chance that an Op will better himself and learn from previous mistakes. Thus causing better seasons.

As far as all the 'biased' comments, no. There will NEVER be a time when no one feels as though they have been cheated. On that note, you cant please everyone. Trying to, aside from the fact it wont happen, will only make things worse.

Just my twenty cents.

1&2. i'd think less squads would = more people on rosters which would mean more activity among squads. less squads should be an insentive to not drop out, as it will weed out the flakey squads (hopefully). i don't know if roster size is really the problem? more opinions would rule

3. it probably won't happen because of those reasons.. time and hosts
4. thanks!

[Exalt]

i think if your gonna keep the same amount of squads in twl then you have to set up a better system for replacement squads...

lets be honest, no squad on a replacement squad has a chance to do anything if a squad like... lets say hydra, decides to dissolve like 4 or 5 games into the season...

squads join twl to get into playoffs, not to play spoiler, its retarded

you need to have a system where maybe the replacement squad can take over the wins or something of the previous squad... because you tell me why any replacement squad should try to win or even show up to a game when they already know they are screwed out of any chance of getting into twl, even if they win every single game????

every season we have replacement squads and every season they do so bad that its like a free win to squads.... well those free wins decide who makes playoffs or not, its not fair really to squads that had to play the original team and then the squad they are trying to beat out for the playoff spot plays them way later in the season and get a free win vs a shit squad like paladen or something that replaces the original squad.... its just pointless

[dads revenge]

Extreme Makeover: TWL Edition

Monster Leagues

[pascone]

I want to know when twsdx is coming to twl :P

it should probably come to twd first

[Doc Flabby]

I want to know when twsdx is coming to twl :P

[Kid Kaos]

Some interesting Ideas witty yet I dont know how some squads would like it because just face it, some people jsut dont give a crap about basing, some players dont give a crap about javing, some players dont give a crap about Dueling. So I dunno but it sounds like some good stuff to start out on. Maybe set it up to where each squad has to be top 8 in two of the 3 categories in order to make it to TWL?