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  • #31
    Originally posted by pascone View Post
    the point is you have to prove at this point you are worthy enough of even playing in the league. it isn't twd where anyone can play. last year we had 12 and like 3 squads dropped out. i have no problem at all with 8 squads

    when has quicksand ever done anything noteworthy in twl? they don't deserve shit. get the points, get the spot. that simple.
    then neither does stray, because they let a cheater play in TWL finals to win, and him and deez nor many other players from the original stray are back on the squad

    so why do they deserve auto qual when their new starters are bad players like royce... compared to old starters like delectable... what has stray done to deserve shit besides cheat? winning the league because you cheated shouldn't give you shit if you ask me

    also pascone, why does your opinion matter? you ruined twl last season, i mean its no secret or otherwise you would still be head TWL Op dont you think?
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    • #32
      Originally posted by pascone View Post
      My whole thought is, this is a premium league. Only the best squads should be competing in it. Everyone always says at the beginning of TWL that there are only like three-four squads that can win it all, and they always do. Tossing in extra squads for extra games just makes everything take a lot longer.

      I'd have less of a problem with 8 squads if the roster limit was smaller, so those squads that have a bunch of guys that usually end up benching when they should probably be starting on other squads, therefore, it could make sense there
      I agree with you completely aside from the fact that we don't have an AML. If we did, it'd be perfect. No one sees TWD, as anything more than what it is, divisions. It's not an AML, it's just there all the time. It's awesome don't get me wrong, but compared to leagues it's nothing special. Until we have some sort of AML, a couple more squads at least in LD, 10 or 12, would be perfect. I don't think the 'couple extra squads tossed in' just makes everything longer. It increases mid-level players twl experience, and can make for great strong squads next season. Not to mention, they can upset the better squads, and maybe cause a favourite to be knocked out in the first round of the playoffs or something you know?
      7:Knockers> how'd you do it Paul?
      7:Knockers> sex? money? power?
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      1:vys> I EVEN TOLD MY MUM I WON A PIZZA

      7:Knockers> the suns not yellow, its chicken
      7:Salu> that's drug addict talk if i ever saw it

      1:chuckle> im tired of seeing people get killed and other people just watching simply saying "MURDER. RACISM. BAD"
      1:chuckle> ive watched the video twice now

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Capital Knockers View Post
        I agree with you completely aside from the fact that we don't have an AML. If we did, it'd be perfect. No one sees TWD, as anything more than what it is, divisions. It's not an AML, it's just there all the time. It's awesome don't get me wrong, but compared to leagues it's nothing special. Until we have some sort of AML, a couple more squads at least in LD, 10 or 12, would be perfect. I don't think the 'couple extra squads tossed in' just makes everything longer. It increases mid-level players twl experience, and can make for great strong squads next season. Not to mention, they can upset the better squads, and maybe cause a favourite to be knocked out in the first round of the playoffs or something you know?
        the problems with AML is that ive recieved no help whatsoever from anyone to get it done, so its pretty much not going to happen

        staff dont care about improving the zone more than how many events they can host til they get mod, so you can count them out supporting it

        its all a big PR joke really, the claimed support from kolar was just to get me to stop trashing staffs inability to be productive
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Exalt View Post
          the problems with AML is that ive recieved no help whatsoever from anyone to get it done, so its pretty much not going to happen

          staff dont care about improving the zone more than how many events they can host til they get mod, so you can count them out supporting it

          its all a big PR joke really, the claimed support from kolar was just to get me to stop trashing staffs inability to be productive
          Well I don't see it getting done anytime soon, with TWL so close. Especially with all the changes in structure and staff. However if this TWL runs smoothly I see no reason why staff wouldn't give the support needed to run an AML. I'd definatly help set it up, and run it. I love the idea.
          7:Knockers> how'd you do it Paul?
          7:Knockers> sex? money? power?
          7:PaulOakenfold> *puts on sunglasses* *flies away*

          1:vys> I EVEN TOLD MY MUM I WON A PIZZA

          7:Knockers> the suns not yellow, its chicken
          7:Salu> that's drug addict talk if i ever saw it

          1:chuckle> im tired of seeing people get killed and other people just watching simply saying "MURDER. RACISM. BAD"
          1:chuckle> ive watched the video twice now

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pascone View Post
            My whole thought is, this is a premium league. Only the best squads should be competing in it. Everyone always says at the beginning of TWL that there are only like three-four squads that can win it all, and they always do. Tossing in extra squads for extra games just makes everything take a lot longer.

            I'd have less of a problem with 8 squads if the roster limit was smaller, so those squads that have a bunch of guys that usually end up benching when they should probably be starting on other squads, therefore, it could make sense there
            THAT'S THE PROBLEM

            You have made it into a premium league. It's not. It's THE ONLY LEAGUE. How can it be premium if there's nothing else?

            TWD isn't a league for all the reasons knockers said.

            TWL takes no time at all. It takes one day, how many weeks out of the year? If it was 2-3 games a day per team, or per week even, and you played 20+ games in the regular season before playoffs, then i'd agree with you. The argument of 3 league teams having to play more shouldn't hold any water-- they're attempting to win not 1, but 3 titles. Therefore, they should have to compete 3x as hard, so saying "o no, i have 3 matches today! how could i play six?" should really be seen as a sign that you're not able to compete on that level. With 8 teams in 3 leagues you have 12 matches. There's how many on at the same time? 3? Even with 16 teams in 3 leagues, you only have 24 games a day/week. 8 per league. Let more people host or monitor the games, what ever you have to do, i don't really know. I don't see how getting 3-6 ppl to watch 24 games a week is that taxing. It might be boring, but i'm sure there are plenty of people who want staff or <er> powers who'd do it.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by DankNuggets View Post
              THAT'S THE PROBLEM

              You have made it into a premium league. It's not. It's THE ONLY LEAGUE. How can it be premium if there's nothing else?

              TWD isn't a league for all the reasons knockers said.

              TWL takes no time at all. It takes one day, how many weeks out of the year? If it was 2-3 games a day per team, or per week even, and you played 20+ games in the regular season before playoffs, then i'd agree with you. The argument of 3 league teams having to play more shouldn't hold any water-- they're attempting to win not 1, but 3 titles. Therefore, they should have to compete 3x as hard, so saying "o no, i have 3 matches today! how could i play six?" should really be seen as a sign that you're not able to compete on that level. With 8 teams in 3 leagues you have 12 matches. There's how many on at the same time? 3? Even with 16 teams in 3 leagues, you only have 24 games a day/week. 8 per league. Let more people host or monitor the games, what ever you have to do, i don't really know. I don't see how getting 3-6 ppl to watch 24 games a week is that taxing. It might be boring, but i'm sure there are plenty of people who want staff or <er> powers who'd do it.
              phelps didn't complain so i agree
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              • #37
                Originally posted by DankNuggets View Post
                THAT'S THE PROBLEM

                You have made it into a premium league. It's not. It's THE ONLY LEAGUE. How can it be premium if there's nothing else?

                TWD isn't a league for all the reasons knockers said.

                TWL takes no time at all. It takes one day, how many weeks out of the year? If it was 2-3 games a day per team, or per week even, and you played 20+ games in the regular season before playoffs, then i'd agree with you. The argument of 3 league teams having to play more shouldn't hold any water-- they're attempting to win not 1, but 3 titles. Therefore, they should have to compete 3x as hard, so saying "o no, i have 3 matches today! how could i play six?" should really be seen as a sign that you're not able to compete on that level. With 8 teams in 3 leagues you have 12 matches. There's how many on at the same time? 3? Even with 16 teams in 3 leagues, you only have 24 games a day/week. 8 per league. Let more people host or monitor the games, what ever you have to do, i don't really know. I don't see how getting 3-6 ppl to watch 24 games a week is that taxing. It might be boring, but i'm sure there are plenty of people who want staff or <er> powers who'd do it.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DankNuggets View Post
                  THAT'S THE PROBLEM

                  You have made it into a premium league. It's not. It's THE ONLY LEAGUE. How can it be premium if there's nothing else?

                  TWD isn't a league for all the reasons knockers said.

                  TWL takes no time at all. It takes one day, how many weeks out of the year? If it was 2-3 games a day per team, or per week even, and you played 20+ games in the regular season before playoffs, then i'd agree with you. The argument of 3 league teams having to play more shouldn't hold any water-- they're attempting to win not 1, but 3 titles. Therefore, they should have to compete 3x as hard, so saying "o no, i have 3 matches today! how could i play six?" should really be seen as a sign that you're not able to compete on that level. With 8 teams in 3 leagues you have 12 matches. There's how many on at the same time? 3? Even with 16 teams in 3 leagues, you only have 24 games a day/week. 8 per league. Let more people host or monitor the games, what ever you have to do, i don't really know. I don't see how getting 3-6 ppl to watch 24 games a week is that taxing. It might be boring, but i'm sure there are plenty of people who want staff or <er> powers who'd do it.
                  there is truth to this post, throw me an ER, I'll host some bloody matches B)
                  TWL-D really REALLY needs at least 10 squads. I seriously think leaving it at 8 would be a big mistake - UNTIL we got an AML of some sort going. Then drop it to 8, and it's perfect.
                  7:Knockers> how'd you do it Paul?
                  7:Knockers> sex? money? power?
                  7:PaulOakenfold> *puts on sunglasses* *flies away*

                  1:vys> I EVEN TOLD MY MUM I WON A PIZZA

                  7:Knockers> the suns not yellow, its chicken
                  7:Salu> that's drug addict talk if i ever saw it

                  1:chuckle> im tired of seeing people get killed and other people just watching simply saying "MURDER. RACISM. BAD"
                  1:chuckle> ive watched the video twice now

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                  • #39
                    Exactly My Point Guys Nicely Said! ^-^

                    We Need 10 Squads For Ld! ! Unless Aml Is Gonna Be Run Which I Doubt. -_-
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                    • #40
                      8 squads is just fine, need some decent replacement squads.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by RednaZ View Post
                        8 squads is just fine, need some decent replacement squads.
                        With 8 squads, I really don't think you're going to need more than one, at most 2 replacement squads, if any at all. The top 8 are going to be made up primarily of squads like Thunder, Stray, Pirates, and etc. Squads that are highly unlikely to drop out. Which is great, but it means those 'decent replacement squads' aren't really getting much of a chance at stepping into twl at any point. Even with 10 squads, the replacement squads would be better than when we had 16. I wouldn't be surprised if not one of the 10 squads drop out. It's possible.
                        7:Knockers> how'd you do it Paul?
                        7:Knockers> sex? money? power?
                        7:PaulOakenfold> *puts on sunglasses* *flies away*

                        1:vys> I EVEN TOLD MY MUM I WON A PIZZA

                        7:Knockers> the suns not yellow, its chicken
                        7:Salu> that's drug addict talk if i ever saw it

                        1:chuckle> im tired of seeing people get killed and other people just watching simply saying "MURDER. RACISM. BAD"
                        1:chuckle> ive watched the video twice now

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                        • #42
                          8 teams is too little.. There is no inviting newer squads to try. People are just going to be getting top 8 and stop playing, I can see it now.

                          I think you should raise the squads to 10, maybe 12. More competition, more upsets, more fun.. :/
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                          • #43
                            double post.
                            I found a nickel and I bought a fishing pole, Then I sold some fish, got a raft, fished more, sold massive fish, sold raft, bought a ship, hired a first mate (awesome), picked up a crew, won TWL.....

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                            • #44
                              How about take the top 16 squads in TWDD, have a small tournament, and the 8 teams left at the end make it to TWLD. Double elimination.
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                              • #45
                                What's AML
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