Thread not about the Thunder sub that cost Pirates the game. Don't worry.

[b4serman]

I went to Denny's, only 3 min walk from my apartment. It was good. I even had them wrote "Clutch Sub" in whipped cream on my pancakes.

And yes, we made Phizey practice everyday in subbing so he could time it perfectly; allowing us to get an extra death. But being the nice guy I am, I let zizu typekill me while I was laughing at our sub. I also turned on Vittu.exe to induce lag at the end. That way when I suicided Chuckle when he was at 9 or 8, he would just eat it and I would die, allowing pirates to catch up (I want Scoop to hurry and be a LD Champion).

I just recently heard there's no delay for subs on twl bots. Don't know if that's true but if so, maybe fix that before next week's games and we probably won't see this bug happen again. Also, I doubt a lot of squads will start to abuse sub to save a player. Why?

1. You're subbing out your starter for someone who's worse. Actually, please sub them out, much easier playing against raples
2. Too many egos clashing. Hear too many times, "Why was I subbed out? Could have escaped." especially if you still end up losing. Or you'll just have people leaving like Ardour I guess
3. Usually squads are already using subs to sub out 1-5s and laggots
4. IF the delay is actually implemented, too hard to judge if someone is actually going to die by a rush. However, if I'm rushing your player, might as well just sub him out quick, because I'll be on him like Kian going whalehunting


Therefore, no new sub regulations are needed. Seriously, this type of situation is the first time I've seen it as probably a lot of TW. But as Creatard laid it out in pseudo-code, no bot misfunction just lag.

I don't mind a replay because having Zizu in was already a joke game. That kid needs to first get good in his own ship (Guessing Shark? Since I always see him with 60+ deaths) before trying to play in wbs.

[Mattey]

Yeah ease got hit with a bullet, but it shouldn't count.

[Scoop]

I went to Denny's, only 3 min walk from my apartment. It was good. I even had them wrote "Clutch Sub" in whipped cream on my pancakes.

And yes, we made Phizey practice everyday in subbing so he could time it perfectly; allowing us to get an extra death. But being the nice guy I am, I let zizu typekill me while I was laughing at our sub. I also turned on Vittu.exe to induce lag at the end. That way when I suicided Chuckle when he was at 9 or 8, he would just eat it and I would die, allowing pirates to catch up (I want Scoop to hurry and be a LD Champion).

I just recently heard there's no delay for subs on twl bots. Don't know if that's true but if so, maybe fix that before next week's games and we probably won't see this bug happen again. Also, I doubt a lot of squads will start to abuse sub to save a player. Why?

1. You're subbing out your starter for someone who's worse. Actually, please sub them out, much easier playing against raples
2. Too many egos clashing. Hear too many times, "Why was I subbed out? Could have escaped." especially if you still end up losing. Or you'll just have people leaving like Ardour I guess
3. Usually squads are already using subs to sub out 1-5s and laggots
4. IF the delay is actually implemented, too hard to judge if someone is actually going to die by a rush. However, if I'm rushing your player, might as well just sub him out quick, because I'll be on him like Kian going whalehunting


Therefore, no new sub regulations are needed. Seriously, this type of situation is the first time I've seen it as probably a lot of TW. But as Creatard laid it out in pseudo-code, no bot misfunction just lag.

I don't mind a replay because having Zizu in was already a joke game. That kid needs to first get good in his own ship (Guessing Shark? Since I always see him with 60+ deaths) before trying to play in wbs.

Don't know what your problem is but I wish you'd get off my nuts.

[Draft]

Mirrorrim is a bitch and thunder is filled with dripping vaginas. Ease magically died in spec. I've summed up the entire thread. You can lock it now.

don't lock it yet!













jeenyuss wanna go to dennys together?


k now lock

[Jhagoro]

Mattey, I almost never post but your so thick headed that I felt the need to post. How hard is it for you to get it through your head that what Creature meant is that Chuckle fired at Ease, Ease's bullet hit Chuckle first, then Ease was "subbed," but due to lag, the sub counted, but it didn't spec Ease in time to avoid Chuckle's bullet. Now to reiterate again in a different wording since clearly you can't understand the first time you read things, what Creature is saying is, TECHNICALLY, Ease was subbed BEFORE Chuckle's bullet hit him, but LAG didn't put Ease into spec fast enough for the sub before Chuckle's bullet hit him. Basically, Ease's bullet hit Chuckle first, THEN Ease was subbed, but the bot didn't finish subbing him by putting him into spec, although it DID have time to check that Ease was still on 9 deaths at the time the sub command was issued, thus due to lag before Chuckle's bullet hit him "before" he was specced.

Jesus fuck, I feel like you don't even read posts and just continue ranting. It's not that fucking hard to understand Creature's point of view if you actually keep a open mind. Good god your so thick headed and close-minded it pains me to see your posts cause I already know what your going to say. For example, your going to quote ONE particular line OUT of context in my post and then beat that point to death and your almost guaranteed to throw some line about Thunder being ________.


The amount of crying in this thread is ridiculous, just stop complaining already, it's clear that the TWL Ops aren't going to change their decision and if you keep up your crying it's not going to do you any good. What's even more ridiculous are the comments about how Thunder is cheap and always finds ways to use staff to their advantage (which is ridiculous considering they already lost one appeal this season, and last season in the TWLD finals they lost that appeal as well; and both of their appeals contained valid points whether it was "cheap" or not)

[Nimrook]

Hercules calm down man. What happened to the old hercules i know back in the days. You got way too serious about this game (affected by squaddies on your squad?). Chill out man and be like Kim, steak, singer and exq!

as for cheating to victory, did anyone miss the sentence i wrote 3 posts ago, about how we lost TWLD FINAL when a banned guy played and clearly carried their team to victory? Even pascone said something about this in this thread. If we cheat to win like you claimed how come we didn't win that one? Plus, we didn't whine for this long about that, knowing there is nothing we can do about it since staff made the call already (I though our appeal was denied in less than 30 mins for that one aswell?). How would you FEEL if this happened to YOU in the FINAL MATCH OF TWLD?

Please it's only regular season, still time to make up the ground.

[PjOtTeR]

Hercules calm down man. What happened to the old hercules i know back in the days. You got way too serious about this game (affected by squaddies on your squad?). Chill out man and be like Kim, steak, singer and exq!

as for cheating to victory, did anyone miss the sentence i wrote 3 posts ago, about how we lost TWLD FINAL when a banned guy played and clearly carried their team to victory? Even pascone said something about this in this thread. If we cheat to win like you claimed how come we didn't win that one? Plus, we didn't whine for this long about that, knowing there is nothing we can do about it since staff made the call already (I though our appeal was denied in less than 30 mins for that one aswell?). How would you FEEL if this happened to YOU in the FINAL MATCH OF TWLD?

Please it's only regular season, still time to make up the ground.

I remember the fludd, the eatja... you lost that final match just fair and square, nothing fishy or shady going on in that game... might have been pulled some strings beforehand, but no cheats during the game as opposed to a lot of shady situations that have occurred with your squad during "important" games...
And saying you didn't whine about it this long while then bringing it up again in the same post is just silly...

[Weak]

I want some olive garden :P
and how about you flip a coin because nothing else is seeming to work.

[Weak]

and i just noticed my signature, that was during a dd... I didnt make twl this weekend... was that basically what happened? Did it say 10 losses and then the sub occur?

[Nickname]

the one about masturbation?

who doesn't enjoy masturbation?

[Witness]

???'s

Hmm Maybe the best ? is how do we fix it so if/when it happens again. what would the ruling be. Or do we just leave it alone or let the twlops decide.

Ideas:

1.Op specs the player, Hopefully in time before he kills another player/ or has any impact in the game for a 3v1 or 2v1 ??.
Wit's responce- Which could lead to more controverse's.
2. All agree its part of game an let it play out. Due to unknown TWserver/player/bot lag/programing.
Wit's responce- Bot is always right,shit happens.
3. Or let TWlops vote on the issue.
Wit's responce-Could cause alot of crying and whining like above.
4. New rule. - If it happens in game with less then 10 total points left , match will be replayed. example 45 46 anything above 10 play continues.
Wit's responce-Waste of everyone's time if you ask me, but would take care of it.
5. No subs when you reach 40deaths team total...
Wit's responce-no comment.

But yeah for the future what would you choose? or thoughts.
I still think it's just part of the game, shit happens try harder next time so your not losing. You've never subbed anyone on 9 before? He got both feet IN! or NO his foot was on top of his other foot and didnt touch, he's OUT! Superbowls for win.

[Reaver]

irate2:

:busted:

:info:

[PaulOakenfold]

*fires self from a cannon into planet cheese*

[Stayon]

this is a fun thead, I was gonna make a bigger reply but this will do, is it just me or sometimes I have the feeling most of the people here when it comes down to issues like this, whenever someone is defending themselves and others attack, looks like people are either very young or blind, this isnt trash, but I find hard to believe that you cant see the corruption that is everywhere in this game, are you all that naive? and not just staffers but players too.

nothing is going to be done, if something looks fishy either, a staff decision or something a player done in game, its probably gonna go away or be forgotten, theres obvious exceptions but ever since I started I saw this every single season. the only people here not wasting time is pirates, they wont get what they want, but luckily if next time this happens to them, "morals and justice" will have say, because it would just look real bad to deny such an appeal or to repeat something in game.

I wasnt there but in theory, despite of this thunder had more chanses to win. 8D

[Downfall]

Ease's turn to abuse the system.