TWLD (Predicts)

[megaman89]

Ya lets stop talking about cheating and focus on how Dice wont even make it to TWLD finals since some of their players do not team well.

Let's all listen to the most successful runner up, nice sig

[Lock]

I did not talk about myself in any way, so I'm not sure why you are saying anything about me. I was simply making a prediction. Isn't this a predictions thread...

[Poseidon]

jones is trying to say that you can be holding shift and still shoot in certain arenas, regardless of key definitions, and this is true. there is some setting that deals with allowing ships to shoot while holding thrust down. actually i take that back, you have to change your repel key from shift + whichever ctrl you use, i think. hockey zone is an easy example to use. you find that while you are thrusting you can fire a bullet as long as no other keys are bound to shift + that ctrl.

as far as i was aware, unless you have a gamepad or a special keyboard or something you cannot bypass this setting which doesnt allow thrust shots. it has little to do with key definitions, you can even set both your thrust and bullet keys to the up arrow along with it already being bound for movement, and unless you have the right hardware, you are not going to be able to bypass this arena setting - it wont fire a bullet while your thrusting... at least not as far as i know, but it seems like maybe people have found a way.

so.. i am curious as to whether this setting in TW is intentional or not, because i see no reason to force thrust bullets to being available only to those with certain hardware. it is a disadvantage. can anybody clarify on why this setting remains?

and vys if you have to sit there and "calculate" anything, you are at a disadvantage. most people get to the point where they just know those things without having to think about them.

and in theory, vys, i think its possible with this keyboard of yours to not actually have your bullet shift + ctrl. you just need to remove repel and anything else from being shift + ctrl, and you will be able to bullet with only ctrl, and be able to thrust shot with shift + ctrl. that is just a hypothesis, i am not sure.

[Crescent Seal]

What you do to do the thrust shoot trick is change your bullet to Thrust + shoot.

Boost - Shift

Bullet - Shift + control


The thing is I can't do it on my laptop keyboard. I'm not sure why cuz the laptop is fairly new.

well i play on laptop so this probably wont work for me, i just wanted to try it tho

[Crescent Seal]

I will give you a clue, you can try to figure the rest by yourself or ask vys.

It involves changing your Key Defaults. :fear:

is that it ^ :fear:

[Vys]

What you do to do the thrust shoot trick is change your bullet to Thrust + shoot.

Boost - Shift

Bullet - Shift + control


The thing is I can't do it on my laptop keyboard. I'm not sure why cuz the laptop is fairly new.

WRONG! Just change repel to spacebar. And when rushing hold down both shift and ctrl and then let go of shift when you have enough energy to shoot.

[Exalt]

Can we move this thread back to TWLD predictions rather than how vys cheats or doesn't cheat and what keydefs he uses for his thrust shot?

[eelam <tw>]

re

What some of your squad don't get with rushing is that it's all about maths. I've perfected the timing of a rush, i can calculate when people are going to shoot from a recharge to 0.1 second. I can calculate the distance from me to a person how much energy I'll use and their recharge rate. I can do this with 4 people at the same time. Thats why i can juke my way out of 1v4 situations, simply by knowing who shot first and when they have full energy to shoot again and dodging the person who's going to shoot and then positioning myself for the second person and so and so forth.

so this is the way to go 3-10 in semi finals and not win an LD title? interesting i rather take notes from burnt

Eelam> how u wb burnt
Burnt> hit ctrl when you want to kill some1
Eelam> sounds easy
Burnt> it is

[Turban]

WRONG! Just change repel to spacebar. And when rushing hold down both shift and ctrl and then let go of shift when you have enough energy to shoot.

:fear:

I have been doing it in a different way, but in the end it's pretty much the same as yours.

REP: CTRL+END (or SPACE)
BULLET: CTRL+SHIFT (not SHIFT+CTRL)
BOOST: SHIFT

^ Worked for me, but your way works great as well, takes a bit of time to get used to it though. When thrusting you just have to press CTRL when you want to fire, then release it to continue thrusting.

Pretty much the opposite from vys's one though.

[Jones]

ya, thats not the thrustshot in ufc arena

edit: my repel key is < and it has been for a while, it's impossible to do those shots in any other arena than ufc. there's a slight "delay" that makes it different, even vys stating earlier you have to let go of shift.

you guys are prolly talking about something similar to something that i have been doing with javelins for 6+ years now, changing mine button so the 'you have too many mines' message won't be displayed as you press tab.

it's not the same

[Galaxy Turbo]

Ok, formulating excuses of not being able to beat vys for example (or other players of a similar calibre) is just plain weak if you truly consider yourself a competitive warbird. Some keyboards have keylock arrangement in which you can't press certain buttons at the same time. In light of this, you cannot tell me that this makes someone a better warbird.

There are so many more variables to consider than fast shots, and as mentioned before previously in the thread, there are plenty of players without this benefit who have established themselves as skilled players.

Unfortunately you just can't even out the playing field completely, but it doesn't mean vys cheats because he has a different keyboard. I don't even see why this thread got derailed so much about this stupid thrust shot, there isn't even a considerable advantage to it because it's still subject to your ability to aim, execution needs the technique too.

Once you become a more capable player in TW, it's inevitable that people who may be less capable than you are just going to generally develop a dislike towards you. Sure, vys has made his share of enemies, but calling him a cheater needs more basis than you hating on him because he can make a thrust shot. Get serious, warbird isn't about that.

[Kid Kaos]

I can produce a faster shot with a well timed bounce off a rock...

[Jones]

k, this thread is getting a little ridiculous now. first people claim they can do thrustshots and now that bullets go faster with rocks =)

new predictions: terian will put up impressive numbers in ld despite only playing the zone for 3 months. fatal wins average ss years on a squad age competition and thunder wins ld. paska is still the best wb on dice and epidemic is and has always been a threat whilst money still being useless. (ps. deluge is like rough when he was 12)

edit: hi ug when are you going to invite me to thunder

[pascone]

k, this thread is getting a little ridiculous now. first people claim they can do thrustshots and now that bullets go faster with rocks =)

new predictions: terian will put up impressive numbers in ld despite only playing the zone for 3 months. fatal wins average ss years on a squad age competition and thunder wins ld. paska is still the best wb on dice and epidemic is and has always been a threat whilst money still being useless. (ps. deluge is like rough when he was 12)

edit: hi ug when are you going to invite me to thunder

i don't get the facination you have with the subspace player money. you talk about him like everywhere. did he murder your first born?

[Turban]

even vys stating earlier you have to let go of shift.

*rantrant*

With the key settings I said you don't have to let go of SHIFT, though your ship does slow down when you hit the bullet key (CTRL+SHIFT), but it will shoot the bullet with the full speed though, guaranteed. :fear:

Though as you stated, it's not the same as in UFC arena, but it's still a form of thrust shooting.

post scriptum: Pro predictions. :wub:

Quick Edit: Why do you guys think that shooting 'rock bullets' makes the bullet go faster? That's complete bullshit, rofl.