TWLB Finals - WTF decision?

[Vatican Assassin]

I hope your resigning after TWL as you have shown flawed decision making skills...My vote goes to blatantly incompetent.

Yes let's ask one of the few remaining people ho actually work to run the game quit because dip shit numero uno forum master whine a lot hates pandora.

Reckful and staff, some of us know you are human and make mistakes and remember that making you feel like shit and leave would be the biggest mistake of all. If any of you pessimistic floundering weeps want to step up and run TWL next season by all means put in the time and effort.

Reckful where the fuck are my medals?

[Reckful]

T forK> fierce 34 pandora 25
Reckful> ?lag
T olde> 1st
PING Current:60 ms Average:60 ms Low:40 ms High:530 ms S2C: 0.1% C2S: 0.1%
T Ricko> 1
T Star Fox> server lag
T SaNtErO> 5th
T maketso> best lags ?
T Cape> server lag
T KATC> rip server
T wbm> lag
T luc the de> come on server recycle
T cranium> rofl appeal, lag
T Powerman 5> lol
T Star Fox> lool ddos
T Cape> pz
T Trasher> gg
C 4:Residue <ZH>> lasenza lagging bad
C 4:Residue <ZH>> it looks like
T Trasher> gg twl
T SaNtErO> recycle plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
T KATC> LOOOOOL
T forK> fierce 35 pand 25
T Ricko> best having a huge round
T douglas J> how do u even got the nrg to calculate
T maketso> LOL
T maketso> rip twl
T Toronto> APPEAl
P zidane> myth getting ddos'd
C 4:Residue <ZH>> skipping everywhere
T DOWNFALL> LOLOL
T delectable> looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooool
T Cape> replay
T Star Fox> DDoS!!!!!
T Kurosiphe> bout to crash
Reckful> ?lag
T cranium> replay twlj
T DOWNFALL> DEATH OF TW
T French Mon> feel the wrath of STAYON
T delectable> what an absolute joke
P Ease> someone ddosing server now too?
PING Current:60 ms Average:60 ms Low:40 ms High:530 ms S2C: 0.1% C2S: 0.1%
P mcvicar> ??? ddos
T French Mon> LAAAAG
T luc the de> replay the entire twl finals
T Pressure> FIERCE WINS -Reckful
T Pressure> FIERCE WINS -Reckful
T Pressure> FIERCE WINS -Reckful
T Pressure> FIERCE WINS -Reckful
T Pressure> FIERCE WINS -Reckful
T Pressure> FIERCE WINS -Reckful
E lilwade> dis lag so gud
T French Mon> HaaaaaaN
E lilwade> hhnngggggg
T Powerman 5> wow..
T Axixa> 35-25
T Limbo> lol this lag though
T Mighty> gg.
T Jessup> rofl
T Toronto> lol
P help: (beam) (twld): lag appeal
T Ogron> this server lag rofl
P Reckful> server lag
T Panama> award fierce win
T luc the de> hope everyone gets specced
T Ricko> great.
T Mighty> DDoS
P zidane> this crap retarded
T Axixa> panda should lose htis round if they are players down due to elims
T AFRI> how no lagouts
P Reckful> server lag
T qan> interesting how we always lag on TWL sundays too
T AFRI> amazing
T Pressure> seriously upsetting to see the game in this condition
T French Mon> STAYON IS KILLIN THE ZONE!!
T olde> this game should have never been played today
Reckful> ?lag
T Sprained> this game is old and dying
PING Current:60 ms Average:60 ms Low:40 ms High:530 ms S2C: 0.1% C2S: 0.2%
T SaNtErO> this is what israeli-f15 ace feels like
C 4:Residue <ZH>> oh, nm
P zidane> ..
P zidane> u seeing this LOL
T Limbo> no it shouldn't have been played
T Reckful> it wouldnt of been
T douglas J> LOl
C 4:zreqdf> i think its zone lag
T Mighty> LOLS ANTERO
P Ease> seeing no shots
T contempt> lolol
T Adrios> Score?
T French Mon> appeal!!
T GET PSYCHO> lol best hiding
Reckful> ?lag
P help: (beam) (twld): i cant see anything
C 4:Residue <ZH>> yea
T Jessup> THE END
PING Current:60 ms Average:60 ms Low:40 ms High:530 ms S2C: 0.1% C2S: 0.3%
T forK> fierce 38 pand 26
T Mighty> LOL best
T Axixa> 38-26 fierce
P Steadman> this game should absolutely not count
T maketso> lag gone
T Confluence> lol
T Ogron> best so bad
T Ri$e Again> better team winning anyways
P Reckful> you still think this should play on?
T olde> Should have steped up reckful and just zoned twld will be play next sunday
T French Mon> Kyou took like 10 secs to blow up
T DOWNFALL> guys direct the hate towards tiny
P help: (mcvicar) (twld): kill this fucking game and replay next week already, this ddos shit is ridiculous!

[Reckful]

im sure massive server lag making a game completely unplayable for a number of players and a bot crash in a game that was practically over is the same thing summa.

[Jones]

Fierce kept going for kills when the lag was unplayable while pandora was asking what was going on and not even attempting to play the match.

Like Mythril said:

"There's a reason one squad kept playing and the other squad decided to sit in spawn and spam ????s."

hate to butt into this like this

[Rise Against]

All I see is a bunch of your LoL buddies pming and complaining when we are clearly winning, Fierce not complaining but playing like real men. They weren't complaining when things worked out in their favour for their other leagues. Truth is you're going to complain about anything possible when you're losing.. badly.

[zidane]

my point about that was mainly due to people exaggerating about how lopsided the match was because of them trying to get kills when it was unplayable, they got multiple kills on people i spectated when the lag was out of control.

[Reckful]

so katc rageritual and jacklyn were all pming me nonstop good to know since their the only people on this game that im "lol buddies" with lol the rest i barely talk to much less play with good call though bro.

[Jones]

either way i wasn't there. i saw the "first" round of lb. the one pandora won where the bot timer ran out.

[megaman89]

Look at all the hypocrites from Pandora, thanks for that Jones. We aren't appealing lj or lb because we honestly don't care about the outcome, we had our run when there were more than 2 squads in the entire zone. If maketso had 290 ms like I saw someone say why wouldn't he lagout? I think it was a terrible decision to make us sub him at that very moment, for someone who was completely cold and went 1-4 and turban knocked me out with a 1000mph bomb, but I didn't lose sleep over it. As for LB our starting shark had to leave because staff took 30 mins to decide that a replay should happen when it should have taken 30 seconds, forcing us to play our best spid in shark and not to mention our only terr lagging out, it was a total disaster and was most likely the final nail in the coffin for competitive gameplay in this dying zone. Our whole squad pretty much only played sunday including myself and we made it to the lj and lb finals, last time we did that we went 1-6 in twlb. The game is dead, I think half of the twd games played this year zidane has played in so kudus for him for keeping twd alive single handedly #nolife. From what I gathered, all our big hitters on dice are done for good including me. I only came back this season to play one last season with my bros and evildeed since they wanted to. RIP TWL and SS.

[Reckful]

Look at all the hypocrites from Pandora, thanks for that Jones. We aren't appealing lj or lb because we honestly don't care about the outcome, we had our run when there were more than 2 squads in the entire zone. If maketso had 290 ms like I saw someone say why wouldn't he lagout? I think it was a terrible decision to make us sub him at that very moment, for someone who was completely cold and went 1-4 and turban knocked me out with a 1000mph bomb, but I didn't lose sleep over it. As for LB our starting shark had to leave because staff took 30 mins to decide that a replay should happen when it should have taken 30 seconds, forcing us to play our best spid in shark and not to mention our only terr lagging out, it was a total disaster and was most likely the final nail in the coffin for competitive gameplay in this dying zone. Our whole squad pretty much only played sunday including myself and we made it to the lj and lb finals, last time we did that we went 1-6 in twlb. The game is dead, I think half of the twd games played this year zidane has played in so kudus for him for keeping twd alive single handedly #nolife. From what I gathered, all our big hitters on dice are done for good including me. I only came back this season to play one last season with my bros and evildeed since they wanted to. RIP TWL and SS.

Congrats for leading one of the most successful squads in TWL history. Enjoy retirement.

[Dwopple]

Should have been replayed at a different date. The excessively long delay from staff due to their fuck ups caused me to miss the final '2?' rounds. This isn't in the rules, but I mean, really...? If we would have known this debacle would have dug itself a deeper shithole at the hands of piss poor decision making, we probably would have refused to play it out in the first place (good call, fierce). Pandora won the "first (second?)", even though it wasn't same lineups, but the other one? Not a damn chance. And We've come back from a 1-0 deficit before in LB finals.

Oh, and what did happen to that twl staff announcement about SAME LINEUPS for the replay round? Was that decision conveniently thrown out because vati was also conveniently "afk"? That alone should have been grounds for a postponement, correct me if I'm wrong here (seriously, please do). Maybe I missed one of those rules that reckful was magically pulling out of his ass.

[Jones]

darn, dice leaving truly marks an end to twlb and twlj. congrats on what you've accomplished

[Rough]

Should have been replayed at a different date. The excessively long delay from staff due to their fuck ups caused me to miss the final '2?' rounds. This isn't in the rules, but I mean, really...? If we would have known this debacle would have dug itself a deeper shithole at the hands of piss poor decision making, we probably would have refused to play it out in the first place (good call, fierce). Pandora won the "first (second?)", even though it wasn't same lineups, but the other one? Not a damn chance. And We've come back from a 1-0 deficit before in LB finals. Oh, and what did happen to that twl staff announcement about SAME LINEUPS for the replay round? Was that decision conveniently thrown out because vati was also conveniently "afk"? That alone should have been grounds for a postponement, correct me if I'm wrong here (seriously, please do). Maybe I missed one of those rules that reckful was magically pulling out of his ass.

Be afraid of Cape.

[Vatican Assassin]

I wasn't afk but I bet some children on our squad said I was as they yelled at me to leave zone... mm89, you had a bad time? Imagine idiots on your squad telling you to leave the zone for LB finals against Dice so you can beat staff and win no matter what! Sure guys, let me know if you win, it's not like I want to be here or anything. Kids these days, all they care about is winning, whatever the cost, no matter if the game and the fun and the challenge get destroyed in the process. Or the integrity. Hearing that Fierce refused to allow a postpone and would rather refuse to play at all is what I'm talking about. What's the point in winning if you can't play against Pandora's best line? Same for us against Dice, but was postponement ever an option for us? The biggest mistake, when you add up all the little ones, is initiative from staff.

Who is charge of all staff, MM God? Whoever it is, put HIM in charge of TWL Finals matches. We don't need a hierarchy with the event host calling up twl op calling up tw sysop who calls forth the committe to talk it out with left_eye when a problem arises. It is simply the most important day of the year for TW, everything is riding on it being a fair match so everyone can leave knowing that the winner is legitimate. Dice is the best basing squad of all time, and it does feel shameful to be excited about beating them when we never even got to 19 minutes. Only the head of staff can truly be to blame for such a series of errors, and taking so much time. Staff was hoping Dice would just happen to win in the first round by over 10 minutes? Really? And then you hope pandora doesn't find out that Dice literally had no chance to lose the round, either they won by 10 mins and bot doesn't run out of time, or it's a replay? Mattey had the right idea, he asked for a replay, but once agian people on pandora who want to win no matter what made him edit his post and delete it. Guys, this is Dice. This is Finals. It has to be done right, and sometimes that means putting it off to anther day. It's been done before due to lag or bot failure, but staff just kept pushing it, hoping it would turn out okay, when a swift, decisive action from whoever is really in charge should have been made.

This is really sad. I finally won LB last year, but it wasn't against Dice, and now we finally beat Dice, but we all know it wasn't a 100% win, the only kind of win that counts. mm89, crip, stayon, a2m, dwopple, jamal, kess. I really enjoyed the last 5 years or so playing against you guys. GL in your endeavors.

[Summa]

im sure massive server lag making a game completely unplayable for a number of players and a bot crash in a game that was practically over is the same thing summa.

surprisingly enough, yes they are exactly the same. they are governed by the same rule, as is in the first post.

but it don't matter, mega don't care, so moving on.