TWL Season Seven Qualification

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by Copy!?!
Some replacement squads havent even had at least theoretical chance to get in playoffs.

Doesn't matter.. if you deserve the spot, you'll keep it.

[Randedl]

i think having half twl having to requalify is too much.

i find it hard to believe that there are 8 squads outside of twl that deserve to be in it. the bottom two from each conference would be enough in my opinion, adding any more would just mean having them requalify.

the same would happen if you made all 16 teams requalify, the bottom few might lose their spots, the rest would just be a shoe-in to get back and trample the rest of them in the twd rankings.

[aiee]

i like the idea of dropping the bottom 2 from each conference.

[Jonesy]

Originally posted by Randedl
i think having half twl having to requalify is too much.

i find it hard to believe that there are 8 squads outside of twl that deserve to be in it. the bottom two from each conference would be enough in my opinion, adding any more would just mean having them requalify.

the same would happen if you made all 16 teams requalify, the bottom few might lose their spots, the rest would just be a shoe-in to get back and trample the rest of them in the twd rankings.

If this is true then I don't see why you guys are complaining. You're going to make it in either way, so it doesn't really matter.


I agree that the bottom should have to re-qualify.. there are lots of other squads out there that can put up a decent show and might have what it takes to take the TWL spot away from those bottom squads.

[Sufficient]

I stick with the idea of 8 nonplayoff bound teams having to compete in TWBD to get back in. This FORCES them to play more games and become more competitive even if they DO easily beat other TWBD squads. We want competitive squads ... not ones that are better than TWD squads but not TWL squads.


And I think that after TWL all squads should be reintegrated back into TWD, because I firmly believe that by seeing TWL squads on the ladder they will play more TWD games.
OR
Another idea would be to, AFTER TWL, place the 8 TWL playoff teams in a seperate TWD-LIKE system so they can play with smilar TWD rankind system but seperate from TWD squads. Then the 8 nonplayoff squads would be put into the regular TWD system to see which 8 come out on top.

[Sufficient]

double post =/

[Escalate]

i like the bottom two in each conference drop idea. we have to balance several different conflicting goals here.

first, we want league to be very competetive, this requires the league to drop teams that are sucking. but, we should also want the league to have some stability and continuity. more open twl spots every season will lead inevitably to more twl players squadhopping from mediocre twl teams to the best dd teams during the off-season in a sort of constant circle. the harder it is to get into twl, the less likely twl squads are to fold...they are able to attract and hold players simply because they are twl. this way we get to see mostly familiar names in twl every season and squads that have a history instead of the latest squadhopper conglomerations that were formed in the offseason. keeping this in mind, i think 4 open twl spots per season is plenty...maybe even 1 or 2 too many.

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[Epinephrine]

Keep in mind that there will be a bunch of TWL squads that disband at the end of season playoffs or no playoffs. It happens EVERY season. If you think about it you can already get a good list of who probably won't be around. Dropping that in addition to another 8 teams (or however remain that didn't disband) would be like restarting TWL fresh with basically all new squads (with the squads that would trample the others staying in as they would anyway). What's the point of that?

-Epi

[Verthanthi]

Originally posted by Epinephrine
Keep in mind that there will be a bunch of TWL squads that disband at the end of season playoffs or no playoffs. It happens EVERY season. If you think about it you can already get a good list of who probably won't be around. Dropping that in addition to another 8 teams (or however remain that didn't disband) would be like restarting TWL fresh with basically all new squads (with the squads that would trample the others staying in as they would anyway). What's the point of that?

-Epi

I'm going to be breif so some stuff may seem unjustified but it will hopefully give you an idea of the benefits of dropping teams.

-With more spots open, TWD will be more competetive. This seems counter intuitive, but I think it might be right. With only 2 spots, I think a lot of teams that would be able to get their act together might just give up. Maybe 8 spots is too many, but I think you need a couple.
-Playoffs will seem more important. (Or whever you decide to put the cutoff)
-A more competetive TWL. Allow for up and comers in a greater way. Legacy squads such as no surrender, whiterabbits, and brit squad will get cleaned up, or preferably earn their return spot.

Writing this post has made me think that dropping eight teams is probably too many, but if I ask for less it just looks like I'm trying to get WR a free ride.

[Sufficient]

Fine, perhaps 8 is a bit too much ... but I definitely think 2 is too little. Is 4 a compromise?

[HellzNo!]

i think that only 2 spots should be opened. shade, your right in the sense that it might open up more competition if more spots are opened up, but i dont think tw has the squads to fill that in. everyone seems to think we have an unlimited resource of talent out there, and maybe thats justified in twld/j, but when i look at the rankings of the squads for twlb, and squads like solstice, virus core?, alpha_sq?, and asevoimat are not squads id like to see in twlb. i think if we open up more spots for next season, we will just allow more squads to enter that dont deserve to compete. if anything, for twlb, i think it should be cut down a couple spots, to 7 teams or 6 teams per conference, but that might fuck up playoffs or something.

[Cig Smoke]

i think 2 spots at MOST, like hellz is saying about the squads on top of the TWD rankings rite now, i know i'd rather play a TWLB vs No surrender or even British squad then some other squad who mite die mid season, atleast we knost brits and NS will last the entire season

u taking to many away would not only knock out squads like bs and ns, but its taking cripz to who got hurt by the big roster change rite on roster lock (yes its our fault) but still i'd like to think that even a 1 wheeled wheelchair is better then some of the top TWJD squads, same as for WR they are better then most TWJD squads

i think it should be like last season teh squads who wanna return return, if they dont then they dont, bc i heard already a few squads are gonna be gone next year, that alone will cause a bigger challenge in TWD bc new elite squasd will be formed to try to take them spots no need to axe others, and if u do like i said 2 at most no need to get rid of 1/2 the league

[Copy!?!]

New spots will come up anyway even if you allow all willing returning squads in. Maybe make it so that squads with 0 wins have to re-qualify. It would give chances to all replacement squads to qualify.

[bloodzombie]

Originally posted by Cig Smoke

u taking to many away would not only knock out squads like bs and ns, but its taking cripz to who got hurt by the big roster change rite on roster lock (yes its our fault) but still i'd like to think that even a 1 wheeled wheelchair is better then some of the top TWJD squads, same as for WR they are better then most TWJD squads

But you're not taking away anyone, you're just making them prove that they deserve teh spot. I see no harm in that. If you're right, and a 1 armed wheelchair is better than the top TWJD squads, then you'll show them that rather than just assuming it to be true.

[Tyson Bitbeast]

If you ask me I'd allow top 3 squads from each category TWLJ/TWLB and TWLD to be given access spots to TWL next season.

-Tyson