TWLB Final

[Nickname]

Jamal registered just to blast crv, well mister shyne4178 or whatever, Shut up. You're new to basing, thats why you're not bored with it. We've used the same stale map FOREVER, and nothing has changed with basing but the cram, which eliminated the use of ships 1 and 2. So now in basing, the league that was originally designed to use the 8 ships we currently use 3. FANTASTIC

[ÆNIMA]

You whine about the levi, which has ruined the basing game.

You whine about the cram, which has ruined the basing game.

Odd how many of the Spastic members have embraced these two aspects of the game, and in a sense...mastered them both.


What few of you have considered is that the levi can be very useful in destroying a cram.

Before putting limitations on the ships, trying allowing all 8 ships to play in the game.

[za gophar]

i think in 8 v 8 basing 1 of every ship should be used.

[Sufficient]

Yeah ... perhaps putting lev in basing will help out ...

But truthfully I think a map change is order ... so that things become more interesting and other ships can be used more easily. Plus a map change seems to be the most flexible way of adjusting the game w/o really messing it up too much.

[PhaTz]

I GET IT NOW!!!!!!!


Spastic was created just to bring back levi into basing, now that with Guano leading TWL next season, who knows what's gonna happen, well done spastic, but you're still nothing in any kind of dueling arena.

[Nickname]

Basing is stupid now putting a levi in would sever no purpose, what kinda cram is going to beat a levi? A LAG CRAM! everybody turn kazaa on.

[Miau]

Just limit the spiders to 4.
Jav is imo by far the elitest basing ship and damn hard to master. Now the cram is making it usless since all you need is laggy sharks. No skill involved in tanking 3 spids then reppin 3 before you die. Cram has not only made jav useless but also sharks skill less. Mining has lost it's meaning cos of the cram and line sure isn't an option since people just spike in (not whining about that lag. Always been there, just the fact that lag+cram has ruined 2 ships from the game: shark+jav. Can't remove the lag, so removing cram is the only option)

Please bring back some reason to basing and limit the spids. I've always loved base cos of it's many aspects. Now this is just plain sit+shoot. Elimwhores can play base as good as dedicated basers now and almost with no prac. Where is the good old basing gone?

[Adman]

I don't think the problem lies in the ships set up. Miau mentioned lag. Lag has always been in base, and it probably always will.

The cram can be broken. Spastic lost in the regular season. Diso crammed this season too.

There are pros and cons for anything that occurs. I hope the league ops sit down and thouroghly look at what can and will happen.

But, give Spastic their ggs and their dues because they beat Diso, fair and square by the rules that are allowed.

GFG Spastic and GG to Diso.

[Miau]

I said it myself: can't remove the lag so change the ships limits.


GGs to Spastic for mastering cram.

But my opinion is and will always be that cram requires not individual talent in basing ships but discipline. We did not have the teamwork nor discipline of Spastic but they don't have our talent in the various ships. Base is a teamwork based but would rather see it turn back to what it was: mix of individual ship talent AND teamwork

[Adman]

Diso to practice more.
Plain and simple

They had been beating the cram all year until now

[Gabraham]

As one of those "laggy sharks", I'd like to say that I play from an up to date comp, cable conn, in the US with 40-50 generally. Also, I don't have kazaa on my comp, nor have I ever used anying like it for SS and lag.

with that disclaimer out of the way..Our demand is this:

give back old LT settings in pub or DIE!
'til then, all your base are ours.
even if you take our 5 spids away from us

Long live LTs

[Mayo Inc.]

First off GG to both squads, well done Spastic.

Originally posted by Nickname
So now in basing, the league that was originally designed to use the 8 ships we currently use 3. FANTASTIC

Whats this "we" bullshit. Aside from the horrendous TWLB playoff games we never (maybe once) used a 5 spider line. Maybe if squads weren't so afraid of getting beat by the cram... they'd play some other lineups. The solution is there... somewhere. It's not in a map change or a ship limit, but in experimenting with other lineups. NOTHING is perfect. Squads just need to grow some balls and try to find a line that can take down the cram. Basing is boring? Maybe thats because you're letting the cram walk all over you. I'm no expert baser but I've seen the cram (be it spastic, pallies, diso, mambo, whoever) get beaten. I'm just tired and ranting now but I think I have a point. I just think a lot of the SO CALLED BASERS ARWE ACTINF LIKE BABIES AND SINCE THEY GETO NED BY TGEH CAMREA THATE Y HAVBE TO CHANGE THE TRUEDLAS
FV

[Adman]

gg mayo, best post you've made in a hella long time spammer.

And nickname you weren't even in a squad for the last half of the season to fuck around or get beat by a cram, I love ya bud but you're being weird.

[Cig Smoke]

i'd havta agree the cram did pretty much eliminate the jav and the skillfull shark...u can go and pick up any 2 ppl and explain to them what a cram is and put them in shark together and give them a few games and they will be good sharks bc they dont havta mine or nething....i think by limiting it to 4 spiders that would still have the cram but atleast u wouldnt have 5 spiders shooting down the middle and it'd atleast havta open it up a little bit and make anotehr ship half usefull.

but ggz spast i wasnt there for it and whoever said diso needs practice and used cram was rite...they did use the cram at times so they even moved on w/ the times...also they did need more practice in the past few weeks/months they been becoming inactive like any other normal squad bc it is late summer w/ school and shit starting so it isnt really there fault but it happens, i expect them back on top next season again

[Tyson Bitbeast]

Cram sorta gives a chance for newbie squads to compete with better squads in basing.. well not exactly but you know what I mean. Almost anyone can cram and spider these days. Basing has evolved and I am not sure if craming is a good thing or bad thing I am in favor of limiting to only 4 spiders even tho everyone on my squad crams.

-Tyson