TSLB Matchmaking Issues

[Rab]

I'll be honest I really dont feel like javing again, [...] zidane has given me abuse when he lost a game with me on it and repeatably tells me how terrible I am in jav in public

+1 zidane is one of the worst for this

[Attacks]

I'll be honest I really dont feel like javing again, I got trashed once by ogron on my first game, and zidane has given me abuse when he lost a game with me on it and repeatably tells me how terrible I am in jav in public and on multiple occasions I played a shark basing game with porkjet. Oder and 24, they were encouraging me and teaching me which is how it should be when people are playing a ship out of their comfort zone
I have seen people trash other players consistantly and without remorse and everyone keeps saying its everyone else but themselves who are doing it. I have under 20% win rate and im still doing fairly well in warbird, you dont have to win every game to do well and get good scores.

And thix people who play badly absolutely shouldn't get subbed, otherwise lets just chuck this tsl out and bring in twl or twdt where people can just play stacked sides. When ogron advertised the league the key words were inclusive, everyone plays, nobody sits.

[Crescent Seal]

Another point I'd like to bring up is that players such as Porkjet are basically forced to play 1 ship in basing due to balancing issues. Porkjet is probably rated a 100 in basing due to his sharking and in order to make sure teams are balanced he doesn't have the liberty to try any other ship such as spider, which he has expressed an interest in.

Also, I 100% agree that nerd loser veterans should stop raging at newbie/avg players who are attempting to try and play new ships. You faggots have TWL and TWDT to cry in. Let TSL be actually inclusive.

To Qan/Beasty: Let Ogron have bot control. Not sure why this is even an issue.

[Rab]

Mc - my drafting code does succeed in it.

[Zeebu]

just have the caps pick teams from the people that get assigned to the arena. in general that would probably work out pretty well, most caps are pretty knowledgeable; thats why they were assigned cap. that would probably give the most even teams per 16 chosen.

[Major Crisis]

It's not only TSLB that has the same people benching over and over.
In the first weeks I saw in javs the same people getting benched as well. While people like Henry Saari has played all games they could (I only got benched once as well though). No one likes to bench... But when you have double of the game as most people, the bot should bench you more often. That's for two reasons, give others the chance to play and reach the 20 games quota. But also because someone with 50 games has a better oppurtinity to get 20 top ranked games than someone who only played 25 games.

And about the even teams. I doubt the bot will ever succeed in it. It's not a problem imo if you switch around in the teams to make it more even. Last weekend we had 7 people on our team who could easily shark, while the opponent only had one shark. But that team was stacked with spids, so they won it easily. I think if one of the sharks switched with one of the spids it would have been more even.

[Pressure]

Loool thix. You straight up trashed Helious for 20 minutes straight. You should be happy these players are even giving Basing a shot. I know I feel happy when I see the likes omega red struggling in my division. I give him encouragement alongside other squaddies.
1:vys> you're doing great omega red
1:Best> yeah man keep it up
1:zidane> excellent work omega red.

We all need to be more like fu inc. squad

You're right I need to be more like this

zidane> omega red what ship don't you play
zidane> ur sick at every ship

[Efhat]

This is absolutely ridiculous and an outrage.

[Vys]

Loool thix. You straight up trashed Helious for 20 minutes straight. You should be happy these players are even giving Basing a shot. I know I feel happy when I see the likes omega red struggling in my division. I give him encouragement alongside other squaddies.
1:vys> you're doing great omega red
1:Best> yeah man keep it up
1:zidane> excellent work omega red.

We all need to be more like fu inc. squad

[Pressure]

nope

[Rab]

Qan - yeah can do the port i guess, less familiar with Java but not totally alien.

Whats the best way to communicate whatever I need to get started?

I also still need the actual live ratings. It's essential that the ratings are per ship and that I can set correct calibration based on it being centigrade rather than stars.

[Rab]

More than 8v8 would be shit because holding a cram would be too easy. First tek would win. It would require a different map.

[qan]

Having worked on the draft I can tell you it's important for balance that lower skill players are benched. The fewer number of higher skill players the harder it is to make x complete teams.

As for benching.. we had one round of 6v6 6v6 6v6 7v7 but everyone wanted 8v8 8v8 8v8 instead, myself included. Imo dropping to 6s ruins it for everyone, so I'd rather bench a couple of people.

Keep in mind, especially if we use individual ship ratings, the quality of the basing teams really will depend on both enough basers showing, and players (including lesser-knowns) being accurately rated. Both are hard to rely on. The first is luck, the second is a lot of effort.

6s were indeed dropped recently.

I wrote new drafting code last weekend. Thats with ogron and qan now.

Willing to write it in Java? (Basically the same language as C# anyhow. Very simple to port.) Happy to set you up with the code. My time is a bit limited, at least at the moment. I might have more time coming soon, but can't make any big promises.

I would rather go 9vs9 or 10vs10 than 6vs6 or 7vs7. Could you just upper the limit of players in 1 game? Say 8vs8 is the standard but if there were some extra players we would turn the games into 9vs9 or 10vs10.

Actually a pretty interesting idea.

Another issue is the constant rage that some people direct at less competent players for mistakes, but I suppose not much can be done about that.

Well, there's one thing, at least: Be the chemo you want to see in the world, ね？

[Rab]

I wrote new drafting code last weekend. Thats with ogron and qan now.

Having worked on the draft I can tell you it's important for balance that lower skill players are benched. The fewer number of higher skill players the harder it is to make x complete teams.

As for benching.. we had one round of 6v6 6v6 6v6 7v7 but everyone wanted 8v8 8v8 8v8 instead, myself included. Imo dropping to 6s ruins it for everyone, so I'd rather bench a couple of people.

[Dreamwin]

I would rather go 9vs9 or 10vs10 than 6vs6 or 7vs7. Could you just upper the limit of players in 1 game? Say 8vs8 is the standard but if there were some extra players we would turn the games into 9vs9 or 10vs10.