it's a questionable trade, basically trading a top level terr who is a top level wb, for a top level spid, and a mid tier baser who can occasionally wb.... and seeing as there are only 3 people in the free agency, it's really hard to make a full accurate comparison of the trade, until we see the full FA roster in 3 weeks, and see who tiny drafts, using his new #3 round pick.
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I hope Bellflowers doesn't read these forums, can't be good for the man's ego, gets literally 0 mention in a trade he's a packagedeal in that's deemed unfair.. People's opinion: Ogron alone > Ricko+Skatarius. Someone make a poll on that to help inflate Ogron's ego a bit more.. lol..
Anyway time to drop some logic, because this thread will only get worse this way (which is fun to me, so also ignore this next part and keep at it..!)
On trades in general:
- A neutral OP with experience makes the decision on trades. (I suggest ask Turban, Ease or Cape if they have some spare time for this)
- Cap A + Cap B suggest a trade in topic
- Other caps can object to this if they want: but only if they argue why, then suggest a better deal/package. (Regular players can talk w/e they want, but if you wanted this power, then next time cap for yourselves)
- OP decides. If original trade gets denied -> Cap A + B have to rework their deal, or cancel it.
- OP decides, if trade is accepted, everyone deals with it. (Yes, like last year with Ease as OP, remember..?)
To me If both teams in a trade feel they get stronger because of it, another player/captain should only be in the position to argue this isn't true, but someone neutral needs to be in the position to judge this. Because in the end another player/cap could always look for an argument that a trade isn't fair if both opposing teams get stronger by it, while his isn't. Which could easily be argued for this trade right here if your opinion is: wb - Ogron>Ricko, Skat>Bell, jav - Ricko>Bell, Skat>Ogron. base - Ogron>Skat, Ricko>Bell. In that case both teams improve.
In the end it's always gonna be an opinion who you favor more as a player, not being neutral will cloud that judgement completely.
ps.
Ogron > Ricko + Skat.
I love it, lol
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People who think it's not fair are thinking of Ogron as a terr. You gotta understand that in Tiny's line, Ogron was going to have to spider, which means he's worth 8* not 10*. Tiny essentially swapped an 8* spider for a 10* spider, and made up for the wb loss by also getting Ricko for Bell.
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so many odd opinions on player's abilities and star ratings here and on other TWDT threads, got to love TW.
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Maybe there should be a rule, 'if a proposed trade has stars that equal each other its auto accepted', if not it goes to a vote of all the other capts that the trading capts can't vote upon and if its not a majority in favor then the trade is denied.
After all, these stars are not based upon unbiased opinion and whoever decides to run the show but stats and performance right?Ogron - "Lifetime Achievement Award recipient for 10* attitude [Ardour]"
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Originally posted by Rab View PostPeople who think it's not fair are thinking of Ogron as a terr. You gotta understand that in Tiny's line, Ogron was going to have to spider, which means he's worth 8* not 10*. Tiny essentially swapped an 8* spider for a 10* spider, and made up for the wb loss by also getting Ricko for Bell.
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guys stfu. the trade was as close to a wash as it gets. some people value other differently and if they want to take the "worse end" (which it is very hard to tell who got it), then its fine. If i traded ogron for chodeyoungfat, that is something to bitch about. Ogron was not going to jav for me, so please dont assume his jav rating mattered. I have a surplus of 7* javs. ricko for ogron in wb...wash...ricko/ogron in jav wash...skat in jav better...bell for ricko in base wash....skat for ogron in base...wash....two different ships, but both very good. everyone else doesnt matter and i joined twd cuz ricko joined?? so stfu plz
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WBM + Anon
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Rucci + BanksSiaxis> yo it was way harder to kill Rage then beam in that dtd
rylo> 1.5 mil for whoever kills renzi
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rEnZi is out. 17 kills 10 deaths. 2 players remain.
P TW-Pub> rylo sent you $1,500,000, you now have $4,047,199.
If you're going to do a thing you should to it to the best of your ability or don't do it at all.
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Originally posted by zidane View PostThread for trades
1. zidane trades 3rd draft order pick in main draft to Nipple Nibbler for 6th draft order pick in main draft
2. zidane trades Ricko and Skatarius for Ogron and Hoppin (Bellflowers)
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