TW Mafia: Still Worthy

[sdrawkcab]

im giving missa the benefit of the doubt (at least for this day phase) since i seemed to ignite a flare that has been missing for the past few games. field i have yet to consider. so backwards, if you are putting rodney on your tentative list then whats ur view on fiS?

I think fis was relatively quiet early on in the old game I reviewed, I?ll have to go back and see if fis was town in that game... I?m not sure being quiet is scummy right now, there?s like an average of 2 pages posted an hour of rl daylight so far people gotta catch up... I hope night phase is quick so the weekend can be day 2 and people can participate more

[kthx]

Isn't that convenient that Jessup messages three or four people his role and they think that actually has any meaning this late into the first day when he has had plenty of time to create some twattish made up character. And what's the point of only pming a couple of people during the first day phase when you have no idea whether they are scum or not you might as well just post your role so everybody can see it if you are going to go that route. Once again your actions make no sense whatsoever unless you are a third party and thus come offered you a deal to create a voting Bloc. If that's the case I would put my money on field, and fis being a part of that arrangement based on how they started playing differently after the supposed message

[fiS]

Give me a break. The game started without a warning and I got stuff to do. Real life giving me a hard time.
I will post when I am home, about 4 hours from now.

I did unvote Jessup because while I do think she might be a threat to town because I don't share the discussions and views that she has, I do think that Jessup is just being Jessup agsin and that the role might be valuable.
Gotta distinguish here between role and the player. Know what I mean?

WillBy is known for involving people and actions into his writeups. Just gotta know how much of it is worth to read out of it, which obviously I don't know at this point.

[the_paul]

Private messaging will be allowed but discouraged. I have balanced this game in such a way that pming will not win the game for town. Only an above average skill for deduction can save you.

Also, this being very clearly stated in the writeup from the post makes me very skeptical that Jessup has some role flavor that requires it to be told via PM or something like that, and have that role be a town role. If anything, this support from Field has made me believe Jessup's claim hints even less.

[the_paul]

Are you saying that you're explicitly forbidden from role claiming publicly, or are you just refusing to?

[field]

After rereading thread, one thing jumped at me: how fast Rodney piggybacked on tp's post:

I actually understand where you're coming from here because like you say for yourself my role is town and the character name is an obvious town hero but just the way that Willby used the Batman example really seems to make it a toss up for me on who the scum members would actually be. In my eyes if someone claimed Batman i would say they must be town, same if someone claimed Superman/Spiderman/Iron Man etc... Willby's breakdown of the roles however have me with doubts as I would rope my perception of a Batman role alignment into the same category as the other heros i mentioned. If someone from the scum team could answer this question that would be fantastic on getting this game rolling.

Scum, are you just random super heros/Villains or do you have correlation to each other? Thanks in advance

Going with my gut here:
vote: Rodney

Also, halp is waaaay too unexcited for this game to be town.

[Jessup]

Jessup, all you've been doing is repeating the narrative mod post from page 1 and calling that information. No, it's not. It's bullshit, and you know it. Beyond that, my role doesn't say a damn thing about chitauri or mjollnir or anything else. It says my name, a few small flavor details, my role, and what it does. It doesn't have some elaborate bullshit back story about repeating the mod post 1000 times and calling it pertinent info.

Also, you keep claiming your role action cannot be prevented, yet you refuse to claim? Why? Do you not understand how you are contradicting yourself? If you really are town, then full claim. It's either that or you waste all of Day 1 screwing around not finding real scum, because you've made the entire focus of the game on you. You could end that focus by claiming, which might explain more than what you have (which is nothing), and then someone else can be lynched, but you refuse. It doesn't make sense, because if your role action can't be prevented anyway, then claiming to save yourself from the noose is the obvious correct play.

Simply put, I agree with Voth 100% on this. My vote doesn't move unless you claim, since the things youve said in this game should mean you have no reason not to unless you were lying.

As I see it, I have explained from the start what I'm dealing with in my role is Exalt. The problem is you guys did this auto vote stuff from the beginning and are acting very un town. The Jessup bandwagon is either complete scum or terrible townies willing to throw a townie day one under the bus for the lols.

To blanketly say that what I've been defending myself over the entire game is (BS and I know it) is totally leading, misleading and close minded. Just because you have a more straight forward role than I do in your mod description means nothing. Everyone gets different roles , names and abilities. From my perspective I just have a gang unwilling to bend no matter what I say. My character and role is unique. That is all I can say this second. Why I am made as I am was Willbys choice and not mine. Again, I'm guessing it has to do with the narrative of the game being more tricky to decipher this time and also a flavor component involving the hammer as a special power left in the game which could transfer to a player.

[field]

Voth I did not think they were scum and felt they were being railroaded by scum as easiest d1 lynches. Literally everyone on their wagons can claim on d2, should either flip townie, "oh well, it's ixt/Jessup, they're bad plays who played bad."

Having said that, Jessup shared some information via PM. It seemed like her role specified that she MUST PM that information, but I'm not sure. She can clarify.

And on that note:
Completely garbage play from Jessup, thanks for wasting day 1 on literally NOTHING meaningful.

The following post by Jessup comes the closest to explaining what her role does:

Really , you think it is complete bs?? lol. You realize what makes Willby's game unique is the narrative in 1st person he shares each day phase. In this game though it is slightly different all depending. Unlike the last game which was determined to be pro town this one has a possibility to be open ended where it can help town AND mafia with the information it provides. Unfortunately it is on me to decide how this flavor will go.

Based on what she shared, I am leaning towards her role being pro-town. I can't imagine WillBy will put such a useless role as third party in a 12 person game.

Jessup, flavor is not the fucking game. Just like the game where I made you nymphomaniac governor, you're going off the rails devoting more importance to flavor than to playing mafia. I bet WillBy is pissed the fuck off right about now.

I won't share what Jessup shared (her prerogative), but 2 others know the above as well.
i see no reason why Jessup shouldn't role claim now.

[Jessup]

I woke up finally, had to sleep 9 hours as I stayed up all night defending myself from wild unprovoked auto votes yesterday.

[ixt]

im giving missa the benefit of the doubt (at least for this day phase) since i seemed to ignite a flare that has been missing for the past few games. field i have yet to consider. so backwards, if you are putting rodney on your tentative list then whats ur view on fiS?

[sdrawkcab]

the way these votes are spread I believe may be telling... going on the ?mafia won?t kill jessup? theory perhaps they?ve spread their votes elsewhere to avoid them looking like they?ve piled on a townie D1... the spread is nice, fields vote is early and hasn?t changed... Rodney?s later? I don?t remember when Rodney voted ..

you guys like lists? Mine right now is
field
rodney
gripe or missa

[ixt]

so in a sense (unless they're doing some reverse psychology shit) a clue to mill over here is there's the potential fiS and Jessup are not on same affiliations, only a possibility

[ixt]

The actual first ixt mafia post that has had something not completely retarded in it. Framing it and hanging it on my wall.

Field, why did you go to bat for both Jessup and ixt? Twice? Just curious.

just to bring it up again of a fiS quote: "I could care less if lynching Jessup or ixt"

[WillBy]

Vote Count:

Jessup- 4 (The_Paul, Kthx, Exalt, Voth)
Ixt- 2 (Halp, Missa)
Halp- 2 (Backwards, Ixt)
The_Paul- 1 (Field)
Fis-1 (Rodney)

Yet to vote:
Fis
Jessup

Hammer vote at 7

I've been surprisingly busy today, so let's take this as our current vote count. If your vote incorrectly counted, please let me know. I will fully verify prior to phase change, in about 12 hours.

To clarify on the hammer rule, this only pertains to ending the phase early. Currently, if Jessup gets 3 more votes, she will be lynched around noon central time (next time I check thread). Otherwise, she will be lynched at phase change, around 9pm CDT, barring the votes becoming tied. Fis and jessup, please get your votes in if you havent already

[Voth]

id like to hear from field again, i cant imagine his first vote on paul was even close to 50% serious, would like to hear what he has to say after more recent development

The actual first ixt mafia post that has had something not completely retarded in it. Framing it and hanging it on my wall.

Field, why did you go to bat for both Jessup and ixt? Twice? Just curious.