TW Mafia: Sweet Vengeance

[field]

I forget Beast is posting until he shows up to post a vote with no explanation, only to disappear again.

I don't give a shit if you want to vote field or anyone else, but any chance you could throw out ANY explanation as to why you are voting for a specific person?

Jesus, this guy is like ixt, can't get a read on him
because there is no baseline.

I wonder if it's just inexperience or simply scum tactic...

[field]

Well, this explanation didn't completely make me forget about this, but the time stamps of the posts lend some
credibility (4:47 for Rodney, 4:51 for Field). But Rodney did post a 1.5 hrs to phase change in pink - are you really trying to tell me you didn't see that?

I know you said before that you didn't want to lynch a Saint and I was, like I said a few posts ago, pressing ffe and Paul to swap to grand. I'm not sold and even if I was, it doesn't mean you're town, but if we are lynching one of the claimed Saints right now, I'm more in on Grand than I am on you.

I thought the phase would change 7pm PST (or 10pm EST) like Rodney said, I didn't see he changed his mind.

Anyways, I don't agree with the grand lynch because the last person to vote will never be scum, and it essentially sacrifices a townie. I get that if grand flips scum, it's a 1:1 sacrifice and that's always more detrimental to scum than town.

However, I think there's a better way to achieve the same outcome, with less risk of killing a townie. If he's scum and I think he is, then we caught scum. If he's vengeful townie, then he can kill grand and clear up the SuperSaint alignment. Eliminates the randomness of the SuperSaint kill after lynch.

[grand]

someone answer me... is super saint ever scum?

[Voth]

From first sentence I meant forget he is playing*, not posting.

[Voth]

I forget Beast is posting until he shows up to post a vote with no explanation, only to disappear again.

I don't give a shit if you want to vote field or anyone else, but any chance you could throw out ANY explanation as to why you are voting for a specific person?

Jesus, this guy is like ixt, can't get a read on him
because there is no baseline.

[Voth]

This is in response to ixt as well.

I was writing that post when Rodney posted his VC, and I wasn't even aware we were so close to phase change.

I wasn't comfortable lynching a saint on d1 (still am not, nevermind being one), and there was talk in thread of moving votes towards grand. I'm a saint and I'm town, so why would I lynch someone who claimed identical role to me? Downfall made more sense, especially since he contradicted himself, and voting him was no brainer to me.

Well, this explanation didn't completely make me forget about this, but the time stamps of the posts lend some
credibility (4:47 for Rodney, 4:51 for Field). But Rodney did post a 1.5 hrs to phase change in pink - are you really trying to tell me you didn't see that?

I know you said before that you didn't want to lynch a Saint and I was, like I said a few posts ago, pressing ffe and Paul to swap to grand. I'm not sold and even if I was, it doesn't mean you're town, but if we are lynching one of the claimed Saints right now, I'm more in on Grand than I am on you.

[Beast]

UNVOTE GRAND: VOTE FIELD

[field]

I don't agree with this grand train. To me, kthx and ffe are much better options to lynch.

Kthx was the first wagon in this thread, and when wagons cease to exist in such a short period of time, it is almost always because the scum were trying to save their buddy. Three people voted for kthx -- Exalt, ixt, ffe.

Out of the three, I trust Exalt to be town-leaning, thus far. Ixt claimed SuperSaint and I'm willing to let him be for now because I don't believe lynching supersaints is the best course of action to take.

That leaves ffe, who not only hopped on the wagon and unvoted not long after (both of which are scummy), but we have him and grand accusing each other of lying. He hasn't pursued it further.

Out of kthx and ffe, I'm going to vote: ffe because we learn much more from lynching him than we do lynching kthx. If ffe is town, he can kill grand and clear the SuperSaint alignment for us. It is a much better route to take than to trust ffe's word that he'd switch to be last person on grand train.

[field]

Downfall lynch*

[field]

For the record, this is the post ixt is referencing. Probably best to quote it in the future.

You know, in the anticipation of the phase change and with Rodneys post right before it, I actually missed that. Nice catch. Last minute slide in on the bandwagon. Definitely worth pressing him on at the least.

field What was with the last minute bandwagon vote? Downfall was set to be lynched so you did not cast a decisive vote.

At this point, I'm still more convinced on Grand. But depending on how field responds, this could change.

This is in response to ixt as well.

I was writing that post when Rodney posted his VC, and I wasn't even aware we were so close to phase change.

I wasn't comfortable lynching a saint on d1 (still am not, nevermind being one), and there was talk in thread of moving votes towards grand. I'm a saint and I'm town, so why would I lynch someone who claimed identical role to me? Downfall made more sense, especially since he contradicted himself, and voting him was no brainer to me.

[grand]

i?m so confused

excuse my ignorance but are super saints ever anti-town? why are you guys all voting a super saint...

also - who has not roleclaimed. people who have not roleclaimed are the most sketchy. my guess is this game is mafia (who can?t kill at night) vs a bunch of vengeful and supersaint townies. mafias goal will be to hide and let townies kill each other off

[Beast]

damn what u idiots doing voting town off? Vote Grand

[Exalt]

If you guys wanna take one for the team, be my guest. I'm not gonna to do it. Call me scum for it if you want, but I'd rather get lynched. At least then I can choose to kill someone i think is scum, rather than hope the rest of town lynches them.

[ffe]

I said Im willing to vote for supersaints claims, including Grand. AND Im willing to be last.

I dont Know who is scum for sure so my vengeful modifier would probably be a shot in the dark like DF's.

To you guys I may be town or I may be scum. But lets assume Im town, would it not be worth it to categorically define Supersaint's alignment with a townie sacrifice?

If town wins I win so idc if it helps. If supersaints turn out town aligned then... idk

[WillBy]

It makes me lol when people say I am not playing like I normally do, because this is my first town role (albeit, a weird town role) since Exalt (mafia godfather) hammerlynched me (town doctor) day 1. I played pretty townie last game, but sdraw was right when he said survivors are essentially scum.