Canadian Youth Taught Hate for America

[Ilya]

this thread is racist

[Bilange]

Excuse me but this is all wrong.

I guess the poll should be more clear. Like "Do you think George W. Bush is evil?". The poll results would be more , uhh, accurate.

For example...

When you've got 64 percent of French-Canadian teenagers saying America's a force for evil, you've got a problem in the media and education up there.

From my point of view (imma frog), USA was doing fine before Bush. US (still) didnt kill 23908562 jews or any other ethnic/religious group so far, so no, not evil.

Also, to the guy that said "No one likes french canadians etc", you must be talking for yourself. There is alot of American and English Canadian tourists in Quebec. Furthermore, let me get out of my "nice-with-anyone-talking-to-me" self for the first time to tell you a STFU or two.

Other not-so-random quotes:

Don't forget, [Canada] had/have troops too in Afghanistan, where the people that actually ATTACKED us are, and where they've had their first war casualties since oh.. world war fucking TWO.. why? FOR US.
If you can't appreciate that, then you need to make yourself useful and just shut the fuck up.

Well said mate.

but the bottom line, and the whole point I was making (not very well, I guess) is that nobody hates canada. People make jokes about canada, and canadians (like yourself) don't seem to like jokes about their country.

Or maybe the jokes sounds too much serious. Just take your sentence here "New weapons? when? the 70's? You guys just get some of those new B-52 bombers everyone's been talking about?" - I didnt get any hint of sarcasm/humour here, sorry! (Not that im being attacked or whatever, just pointing out. However if anyone thinks that (or anything like we're still living in igloos) seriously, frankly thats his/her problem: get out more often)

Acutally the CRTC I believe accepts or rejects networks from broadcasting in Canada, there's a case in Quebec atm with the same problem.

Yup. More on this here. CHOI-FM has to survive. 15 days left before CHOI-FM' license expiration

[bloodzombie]

I agree with everything epi said..

and I'm sorry my jokes aren't funny.

[Kid Kaos]

so i guess than all of North America and South America are all just extensions on the USA?

Brazil, Mexico, etc... all americans?

Being that I said American, not United States.... then yes. I am currently living in Costa Rica (Central America) and one thing that I have noticed is that if I say: "Yo soy de America" they will say: Yo tambien.

Translation: kid kaos> I am from America

Costa Rican: Me too.

THey consider themselves American because their part of the world is called Central AMERICA.

Hey, I dont support Bush, I think hes a complete idiot. But the fact that people from other countries try to blame all "Americans" for one mans mistakes completely pisses me off.

[Troll King]

Okay, can we get past the simple semantics ot the term "America"? Yes, their are regions of the world known as North America, South America and Central America, and the people living in these regions can loosely be called "Americans". And yes, the word "American" can, in a more specific usage, refer to just the United States of America. That does not mean that one is an extention of the other though. For example, people in Costa Rica might refer to themselves as being "Americans" but mean that in relation to the Western continents being called the "Americas", but if you asked them about whether they are from the USA, then the question would be interpreted differently. It's just an example of a word having two different meanings; I'm
sure we've all seen other examples of this before.

When we start arguing the use of the term "America" in languages other than English, then we're really straining to argue a point that isn't really significant.

[Vantage]

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[Kid Kaos]

Yes but the significance of this is, by the true term of "America" we are all Americans. Troll I believe once I heard that you are/were a school teacher. Of all people you should understand and respect the actual meaning of being American.

But despite that shit, I still press the fact that hating a country for one man's mistake is truelly obsurd. And I am willing to bet that most (if not all) of people from other countries have/had friends or relatives that live/lived in the USA.

And how about this, When Terrorists from the middle east bombed the United States Embassy in South Africa, it was known that Osama Bin Laden and his terrorists faction was being supported by Iraq which at that time was obviously controlled by Saddam Hussein. Instead of going to War, Bill Clinton bombed key military factories and warehouses. Thus conflicting damage but at a much lesser cost of money and casualties. I doubt any country found that act as absurd as they found Bush's war act.

[andrewabcd]

Ok. I didn't think you were joking. And yes many people make fun of Canadians because we are so peaceful and nice. We make fun of each other (Canadians) often.

Did you know that the West Edmonton Mall has more working submarines than the navy?

And obvisiously we have no new weapons to test, as we are not at war with anyone. (any real war) We'd rather spend the money on booze or Tim Horton's coffee/timbits.

[Troll King]

Yes but the significance of this is, by the true term of "America" we are all Americans. Troll I believe once I heard that you are/were a school teacher. Of all people you should understand and respect the actual meaning of being American.

I am a teacher and I do understand what the term "American" means, and part of that understanding is that there is more than one meaning to the term. The example you used only works if the term "American" meant only just the umbrella term for all people on the western continents.

If you want a similar example, take a look at how people use of the term "friend". Let's say you have a brother that you are very close to and you do a lot of stuff together. Would you then call him a friend? In a sense he is. But in another sense, if you were to make a list of people who you call friends and a seperate list of people who you would consider family (and in a sense, closer than friends) you'd only put your brother on the second list. Well, that's sort of how the term "American" works. It can refer to all of North, South and Central America, but it can also be used to refer to just the people of the United States.

If you want another example: I see you mentioned South Africa in your post, and I assume you meant the country and not all of the countries in the southern half of the African continent.

To boil it down for you, the term "American" can mean more than one thing, and it depends on the person who is talking and (to return to one of my most-used words) context. There is no "true" single meaning for the term "America".

Is that "teacher-ly" enough of an answer for you?

[Security]

Out of all my teachers (graduated HS) i'd say only 1 was Anti-American and preached it in class. However, he also seemed to hate the canadian government so i'm not sure if that counts. He was all anti-war, pro environment etc.

(IMO) Comedy shows, our gov, and the odd yankee prick are what give the US a bad name.

- CDN Comedy shows like to show how stupid Americans are (like the infamous part where Bush didn't know who the canadian prime minister was).

- Gov gets pushed around a lot by the US and often compromises CDNS beliefs to keep good relations with the US (excluding iraq).

- Usually some odd guy will spout out "canada sucks" for no reason basically anywhere.

[Troll King]

- Usually some odd guy will spout out "canada sucks" for no reason basically anywhere.

Anyone want to take bets on who will do that first in a following post?

[Epinephrine]

Yes but the significance of this is, by the true term of "America" we are all Americans. Troll I believe once I heard that you are/were a school teacher. Of all people you should understand and respect the actual meaning of being American.

Does it really matter? It's quite obvious EVERYONE in this thread except for you is talking about the United States of America.

And how about this, When Terrorists from the middle east bombed the United States Embassy in South Africa, it was known that Osama Bin Laden and his terrorists faction was being supported by Iraq which at that time was obviously controlled by Saddam Hussein. Instead of going to War, Bill Clinton bombed key military factories and warehouses. Thus conflicting damage but at a much lesser cost of money and casualties. I doubt any country found that act as absurd as they found Bush's war act.

There's so many things wrong with this paragraph I'm trying hard not to burst into laughter (or alternately cry because it seems like this is what the average American voter thinks).

1) The embassy bombings were in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, NOT South Africa.

2) Clinton bombed a terrorism training complex in Afghanistan and destroyed a pharmaceutical manufacturing facility in Khartoum, Sudan.

3) Yes everyone knew Osama Bin Laden did it, but everyone also knew that Saddam had nothing to do with it.

4) The 9/11 commission and countless intelligence officers have stated that there's no real connection between Osama and Saddam.

5) Osama HATED Saddam as much as he hates America. In fact he only started hating America for real after the Saudis didn't let Osama use his own methods of kicking Saddam out of Kuwait before the 1991 Gulf War, but instead the Saudis expelled Osama and let the US in.


Since you got all of that wrong, no wonder people think attacking Iraq actually improved US national security. Meanwhile thanks to all the troops and money being spent in Iraq, the Taliban is making a comeback in Afghanistan.

-Epi

[Rogue]

Wow...well since I'm in the US Air Force I have the right to say that alot of you on here have no fucking clue whats really going on and this thread should be killed...thnx gg

[Troll King]

If you want another example: I see you mentioned South Africa in your post, and I assume you meant the country and not all of the countries in the southern half of the African continent.

1) The embassy bombings were in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, NOT South Africa.

Perhaps my earlier assumption was wrong after all and he did mean countries in the southern half of the African continent.

[Sarien]

A-mer-i-can ** adj.
Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture.
Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere.
Of or relating to any of the Native American peoples.
Indigenous to North or South America. Used of plants and animals.

n.
A native or inhabitant of America.
A citizen of the United States.
American English.

But Troll King is right. So it can mean both. Stretch the limits of your imagination and figure out what is meant in each usage. What do you really expect people to do, call us "United Statesians"? Save word games for funny threads, people are actually having a real discussion. Except bloodzombie, he said I should be a ninja turtle. I think I might be in love with him so I made this picture of a shark eating one of those weird ass Japanese Square Watermelons with the face of Jesus on the side.