I don't hate America, I'm more or less scared of what it has become in the past couple of years, and more so what it's always been. Of course this is just a personal opinion and one reflecting my experiences and my believes on what Western Society in general is.
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Originally posted by BilangeExcuse me but this is all wrong.
From my point of view (imma frog), USA was doing fine before Bush. US (still) didnt kill 23908562 jews or any other ethnic/religious group so far, so no, not evil.5: Da1andonly> !ban epinephrine
5: RoboHelp> Are you nuts? You can't ban a staff member!
5: Da1andonly> =((
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5: RoboHelp> Staffer "da1andonly" has been banned for abuse.
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Originally posted by Security- CDN Comedy shows like to show how stupid Americans are (like the infamous part where Bush didn't know who the canadian prime minister was).
So yea Bush is stupid.
To watch the video go to
http://home.comcast.net/~wwwstephen/americans/
bottom video.
or http://www2.stephenville.org/bush.mpg
Great videos.
It just shows how ignorant the US is of other countries especially their best friend to the north. But we really all do live in igloos and have no running water.Last edited by andrewabcd; 08-17-2004, 10:47 AM.
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We are fighting Iran in Iraq
In the Cold War, we actually had wars. We had little battles and skirmishes, but never with the principal. We were never really at war with the Soviet Union. We fought the war, that war was fought, with surrogates in many cases. We fought the communists in Korea. We fought the communists in Vietnam. We fought the communists in Cuba. We fought them in Afghanistan, with surrogates. The war on terrorism. You look at it this way, and I mentioned this yesterday. The war on terror is a war on Iran. That's not Iraq with a "Q" but Iran with an "N." I said this in response to a call yesterday. The war on terror really has its epicenter in Iran, and until that's dealt with, it's really not going to be over.
Iraq happens to be the surrogate for us and the surrogate for Iran right now. Iraq is the surrogate for both sides, if you look at it this way. Our side reasons -- that we can disarm the weapons of mass destruction in Iran, that we can stop the export of terrorism from Iran, if we can do this, we can end the sanctuary for Al-Qaeda in Iran by succeeding in Iraq. Or at least by getting started with our success in Iraq.
Now, Iran on the other hand knows that it will have a freer hand with weapons, with terrorism, with Al-Qaeda if their surrogates can stop us in Iraq. The Iranian field general, if you will the current field general, this so-called cleric, Muqtada al-Sadr.
Now, if our surrogate beats their surrogate in Iraq, we can avoid a far more costly war later on with Iran directly. Costly in terms of lives and treasure. Success or even partial success in Iraq and exposure of Iran's involvement in all this would lead to all sorts of dominos falling, and if you can look at it this way, we've had the news that Iran is harboring Al-Qaeda, that Iran is harboring a number of terrorists, and we've known for a long time that Iran is the epicenter of much of the terrorism that's gone on in the world since the seventies. And Al-Qaeda is a separate group and Al-Qaeda was basically run out of Afghanistan but they've now linked up. Al-Qaeda is there. Iran is the key here. We're not at war with Iran, but we are. We are actually at war with Iran in Iraq. Iraq happens to be the location that Iran is fighting the war, is my point. Iran sends their surrogates, sends their spies, sends their people trying to disrupt and foment civil war in Iraq, religious civil war. Its all coming from Iran. Make no mistake about this, the battle is with Iran.
The point is that it's serious. This is the war on terror and it's being fought right now in Iraq by surrogates. We never directly confronted the Soviets but we confronted their surrogates in Grenada and in Nicaragua and in Cuba and in Vietnam and in Korea. And look how long it took, and they finally were defeated without a direct military confrontation. I'm not saying this is going to be a 40 year war, but it could be. We never know. The way the terrorists of the world are being educated, I should say indoctrinated, it's got a ways to go. But the heart that pumps blood and oxygen through the whole movement right now is Iran. And make no mistake about the fact Iran is engaging us via surrogates in Iraq.
And I don't know how many people instinctively know this but I will tell you this. I will tell you that the profile of these undecided voters that we've shared with you earlier in the hour, particularly these undecided women vote, they know. They know that it's not just Iraq; they know this is not a Bush lie to send us into Iraq because Bush has got some plan for Iraq. They know what's going on there. Even if they can't put their fingers on it, if they can't put their hands on it or actually explain it, they know, instincts kick in here, and it's something serious to consider.
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Originally posted by JeansiThat's exactly how it went for me. From "USA is a great country" to "die bitches".
In the meantime i had to choose between Martin, Harper, Duceppe, Layton... talk about choiceBilange> i love getting repped
Bilange> i said repped, not raped :X
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Originally posted by Troll KingPerhaps my earlier assumption was wrong after all and he did mean countries in the southern half of the African continent.
Correct, sorry for not pointing that out for you Epi, now go put more tape on your glasses.
And from what I understood about it he also hurled some bombs Iraq´s way aswell during that, but I dont recall because I´ve been busy doing shit like socializing, having a good time in the bars and talking with women. You might want to try it someday epi.
I mean, I know everyone here respects you because your a TW LEGEND and all, but do you think that if you had a GF that she would respect that?Last edited by Kid Kaos; 08-19-2004, 01:59 PM.2 time TWLD runner up.
If not a medal, cant I get a Ribbon??
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Originally posted by Troll KingOkay, can we get past the simple semantics ot the term "America"?.
I don't know why it bothers me so much when Bush says "americans" all the time.http://www.trenchwars.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15100 - Gallileo's racist thread
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Originally posted by Kid KaosCorrect, sorry for not pointing that out for you Epi, now go put more tape on your glasses.
And from what I understood about it he also hurled some bombs Iraq´s way aswell during that, but I dont recall because I´ve been busy doing shit like socializing, having a good time in the bars and talking with women. You might want to try it someday epi.
I mean, I know everyone here respects you because your a TW LEGEND and all, but do you think that if you had a GF that she would respect that?
And you still try to hard.
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Originally posted by RogueWow...well since I'm in the US Air Force I have the right to say that alot of you on here have no fucking clue whats really going on and this thread should be killed...thnx gg
a lot of people don't like the usa and for good reason(s). mostly because of the US government, not the military. as i've said before, i think the US citizens are victims of their own system because bush is totally making the whole country look bad.
"the evil doers have weapons of mass destruction" ....how did that turn out?...
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I'm canadian, don't think i'm considered in the "youth" category anymore, but anyways... i don't hate americans... just the US Government and specific americans who act like nazi's and think they're superior. All americans who just act like normal people are fine with me. You can't exactly hate an entire race for the idiot comments of a few....
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Originally posted by Kid KaosCorrect, sorry for not pointing that out for you Epi, now go put more tape on your glasses.
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